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This may just be the best commercial out there on the subject of marriage equality. And it comes from Ireland, and the group "MarriagEquality". Watching this ad, "Sinead's Hand," makes it crystal clear that putting the question of marriage on the ballot is not only ludicrous, but it's offensive as hell. This Fall, the state of Maine will vote on whether gay and lesbian couples should have equal rights to marriage. It's important to win that vote.
But the premise behind putting civil rights on statewide ballots smacks in the face of the types of protections and rights that governm
Originally posted by DYepes
I used to have a pretty ignorant world view on this subject, but have matured after actually having met more gay people in life and understanding they bleed red too.
None of my business what the two happy homos do in their private life, nor do I feel it is my right to deny them of that right to happiness. Hell, I think they have every right to adopt children as well. I have not met a single racist homo, annd I think more children growning up around a household that preaches equality and denounces prejudice helps build character.
You may have sineads hand in marriage as you see fit.
Originally posted by leo123
Originally posted by DYepes
I used to have a pretty ignorant world view on this subject, but have matured after actually having met more gay people in life and understanding they bleed red too.
None of my business what the two happy homos do in their private life, nor do I feel it is my right to deny them of that right to happiness. Hell, I think they have every right to adopt children as well. I have not met a single racist homo, annd I think more children growning up around a household that preaches equality and denounces prejudice helps build character.
You may have sineads hand in marriage as you see fit.
Hi DYepes:
I have two problems with gay couples adopting and raising children.
1) A mother and a father contribute a totally different dynamic to a child's upbringing. A gay couple is cheating the child of 1/2 of the equation. The child comes first.
2) School children can and are incredibly evil to each other and a child of gay parents will most certainly be treated differently - and certainly not favourably - by his or he peers at school.
Frankly, I find it quite cruel to impose this unfavourable environment upon a child simply to satisfy a gay couple's desires.
Namely, the best interests of the child comes first, not some social engineering experiment by a gay couple.
[edit on 5-9-2009 by leo123]
Originally posted by leo123
What most gays forget is mosts striaghts could give a rats ass about them having a legal union, but they need to respect the fact homosexuals are not a procreating couple entering into a traditional heterosexual marriage in the sense of the term.
That is where the problems lies, gays don't seem to respect the fact they are equal, but different.
Namely, hey ur nice people but we have our own party and you are not invited.
Go have your own party and stop trying to crash ours.
And we are rather protective of our own party. Understand?
We have our morals and you have yours. We don't try to change your morals, but you can certainly expect a negative response if you attempt to change our morals.
[edit on 5-9-2009 by leo123]
Originally posted by Miraj
reply to post by leo123
1# Just because it's two men, doesn't mean they can't do their roles. Traditionally the father figure has always been the one to discipline, the one who teaches you the rules of life so to speak. However those roles are reversing in these times. Also see single parents. I'm pretty sure our current president was the product of a single mother.
2# Kids are kids. They will not be treated differently. Every child is subject to bullying. Kids always find a reason to hurt other kids. The reason isn't what matters. The kids that are bullys are just sadists. If you got through public schools without learning this, I'd like to know what planet you came, and can your people send me there?
Originally posted by heyo
reply to post by lifecitizen
crying homophobic is like crying racist.
you and your little holier than though rolling eyes smiley, gimme a break.
the hunter has become the prey when it comes to labelling people these days. chuckle.
personally I think the argument is lost in translation. as a religious person i would prefer to have the term "marriage" wiped from any political affiliation. However, since the term is already taken, a legal union between two consenting adults should be known and referred to exactly that, a union.
marriage is religious, union is political, involving benefits and the like. Of course, all couples involved in unions should have equal rights.
A part of me thinks that homosexuals have been sucked into a political fiasco that by'n'large was never their intention, by the machine that divides.
You know the machine. the racist, religious, ideological, spank your kids or not, eat all you want but don't smoke machine. The machine turns elephants in a room into flies on the wall.
Originally posted by lifecitizen
Originally posted by heyo
reply to post by lifecitizen
crying homophobic is like crying racist.
you and your little holier than though rolling eyes smiley, gimme a break.
the hunter has become the prey when it comes to labelling people these days. chuckle.
personally I think the argument is lost in translation. as a religious person i would prefer to have the term "marriage" wiped from any political affiliation. However, since the term is already taken, a legal union between two consenting adults should be known and referred to exactly that, a union.
marriage is religious, union is political, involving benefits and the like. Of course, all couples involved in unions should have equal rights.
A part of me thinks that homosexuals have been sucked into a political fiasco that by'n'large was never their intention, by the machine that divides.
You know the machine. the racist, religious, ideological, spank your kids or not, eat all you want but don't smoke machine. The machine turns elephants in a room into flies on the wall.
I see
Homophobic people and racists don't exist
Gotcha.