"Conservatives Protest Obama's Nefarious Plot to Have Schoolchildren Learn Things in School", page 8
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reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 06:47 PM by Mailman
reply to post by AKARonco



I think the same could be said about the targeted age range. They have a long time to forget this. If they planned on doing this yearly it would seem just as strange.
It sounds ok, but maybe instead of having home economics or swim class, they should make courses that specialize in training these kids to make a difference in the world. Then we wouldnt have to pay two tax paid employees to do one job. He would get more applause if he changed that rather than this approach.


reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 06:50 PM by EvolvedMinistry
reply to post by Animal



This thread is hilarious. I agree with the OP on this one. Education is a necessity. How could anyone disagree with that?

Most of you are focused on the wrong things and are so wrapped up in fear that you're looking for conspiracies in your own bedrooms and seem scared of your own shadows. You want a conspiracy??? The poor get poorer, and the rich get richer. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

Here's the deal. Until you start THINKING, and quit voting for the two party system, you will always have the elite running the world. They are all on the same agenda whether democrat or republican. They pretend to be mortal enemies as they defend partisan issues, but, behind the scenes they're all playing golf together, shaking hands, and laughing about how ignorant and simple minded the American public truly is. They're just throwing bones for us to chew on while they continue lining their pockets between the corporate payoffs and our tax dollars.

GROW UP!!!

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reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 08:01 PM by traderjack
reply to post by getreadyalready




To answer your question about our division, yes. Some of us don't even consider him our president. Nothing good can come from indoctrination with Marxist rhetoric.



reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 08:04 PM by JayinAR
reply to post by SkepticOverlord



The lesson plan that I saw rejected had suggested teachers have children write themselves a letter asking themselves what Obama wanted them to do *for him*...

I say indoctrination.


reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 08:05 PM by wakinup13
reply to post by intrepid




... trying to create a culture where people ask themselves "what can I do for my country" is all well and good. Trying to create a culture where people ask themselves.."what can I do for my president" is obviously something entirely different...

In the vid you posted I didn't hear Kennedy asking the latter


reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 08:05 PM by HIFIGUY
Originally posted by getreadyalready
I am one of the Conservatives that is extremely suspicious of Obama, but I had to Star and Flag for the witty title!!

I also don't see anything wrong in the spirit of Obama's challenges! Our school children need to be thinking about what they can do to help this country in the future. They need to be considering community services. They need to be considering military service. They need to believe that college is necessary and attainable!

Obama scares me, but I think the message is good! As long as these things don't become mandatory, and as longs as the rhetoric doesn't slide into the "serve me" rather than "serve your country" then I see no problem with it!!


Yet you are extremely suspicious of Obama.

At what point do we say right is right, and wrong is wrong. Regardless of what the president does, do we not attempt to do what is right?

Obama doenst scare me, its those oppose Obama scare me! The conservative right that is against the help of a brother. The conservative right that cannot see those who need health care. The conservative right that pads their own pocket book while others do without.

At what point, does the conservative right, become the left. Is it when he or she loses their job? Is it when he or she loses their home?
Their arrogance and independence is dictated by their wallet. Nothing more.
When they are not in need, they deny the need of others, and when they are in need, they cry injustice!

America is sick with pride, and sick with greed. Until she can see beyond the needs of herself and reach beyond to the needs of the whole, then and only then can we truly call ourselves united.

Peace

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reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 08:06 PM by mrbarber
reply to post by EvolvedMinistry



If that was what he was really about, it would be fine. That said, I have no problem with helping others, but I will not be forced or have my children mandated to participate against our will. As for diversity, how do you achieve unity through diversity? And, how does spreading the wealth from those who earned it to those who didn't, build a work ethic. If I disagree with him, by virtually all his most intense supporters , I am a racist. That promotes unity. If he thinks he can divide us or our families and conquer, believe me he will do it and then try to convey a "Who Me?" attitude with the Obama style and charm to disarm his critics.

You are being deceived if you believe he is about anything other than about power. Always has been from his very beginnings.

Don't get me wrong, Bush is no better and really started this ball rolling. Obama has simply picked it up and is running with it. I wouldn't let Bush talk to my kids either.


reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 08:20 PM by chuckk
Whats wrong with Obama speaking to the children, are you kidding...?

A Live address, during school teaching hours, no advance text (just announced today that it is available last minute the night before the speech after protests), no parents around to review with the kids, just liberal democrat teachers pushing the commie agenda, and worst of all, a list of questions produced by the Fed Gov. such as 'what can you do to help the president' and "why you should listen to the President and government officials". This bullcrap makes you want to click your heals and go Ya vol mon furah.

Here is the letter I sent off to the school superintendent, principal and teacher for my 9 year old daughter for the school district in the Chicago North Shore.



Subject: My Children are not to view the Obama Live Speech to Schools on Sept.8, 2009

My daughter, XXXXXXX, who attends 4th Grade at XXXXX School, will not be attending school on Sept. 8, 2009 due to Obama’s Live Speech to Schools on that date, unless I receive a call or email saying that this program will not be presented.

Having alternate activities for that day is not acceptable. A loss of state funding for the day is the punishment that your school is going to get if you proceed with this social indoctrination program akin to Adolph Hitler’s Youth. I am also going to contact as many other parents as I can so they can keep their children out of school that day too.

It is one thing for a president to encourage all kids to work hard and stay in school – that is reasonable. It is another thing entirely, however, to have the U.S. Department of Education send detailed instructions to public schools nationwide on how to glorify the president and the presidency, and push them to drive social change. It is not right to have children in a controlled subservient position where they cannot disagree without being ridiculed, or leave the environment.

This is the not the first time that the local schools has pushed the lousy, loony, leftist, liberal agenda.

1) While my daughter was at XXXXXX School last year, the children had to say the US Pledge of Allegiance in English and SPANISH. A Hispanic in class called her a Racist when she stopped saying it in Spanish per my direction.

2) My stepson in XXXX high school is now coming home telling me how great communism is and that it is important to have a strong central government. He said that he got this from his English teacher at XXXX High School.

These children’s mother grew up in a communist country and many relatives were killed by the Nazis in WWII. We know the indoctrination game and it must STOP, we will not tolerate it any longer. Free and open thinking and fair debate should be the goal,

The principal called my this afternoon saying that "on a school level, they were not going to force watching this, and he spoke to the teacher who said she was not going to watch it since it is in the middle of math, but she might show parts of it later." - Understand? a Bull-crap way of saying Maybe.



The following is from
histclo.com...


Isn’t this close to Obama’s actions?


He alone, who owns the youth, gains the Future!
-- Adolf Hitler, speech at the Reichsparteitag, 1935


The Hitler Jugend (Hitler Youth), the NAZI party's youth movement, indoctrinated German youth to perpetuate the "1,000 year Reich." The Hitler Youth movement emphasized activism, physical training, NAZI ideology, especially nationalism and racial concepts, and absolute obedience to Hitler and the NAZI Party. Indoctrinating children in National Socialist idelogy was a key goal of the NAZI Party. Once Hitler assumed control over the German state, he used the Goverment to make the Hitler Youth the country's all encompasing youth movement. Hitler and other NAZIs leaders saw the indoctrination of young Germans as of critical importance.
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