"Conservatives Protest Obama's Nefarious Plot to Have Schoolchildren Learn Things in School"

oh roflma, I see ATS is still the same as it has been for years. Members posting about "The Day" that They are coming to get us.

It could be aliens ready to launch an invasion, or China ready to reclaim Taiwan. Maybe the illegals will finally be dealt with by popular uprising, or there will be another false flag, set for another date and time, that has never come to fruition. It could be them ready to take our liberties, or in this scenario, it is the President initiating the indoctrination of the Fourth Reich (which has also been bestowed upon many of our previous presidents as well) by speaking to our children, citizens of the nation and the future leadership of the world (I mean who in their right mind that has achieved much in life should have the right to speak to them about focus and dedication to your goals).

This date will pass, and so will tis thread, and so will the accusations. There will be noo revolt, but there will also not be any kind of left wing totalitarian takeover. The water wont stop running, and the food will still be in the store tomorrow.

As the hours pass, new accusations and new dates and new faces will blossom to replace those which have faded into the dust of time as mere fiction and thoughts that never were. The hype and hysteria will remain localized between a poplation segment perfectly content with having their cake and eating it too, that is to demonize the actions of others as destructive and evil, but too comfortable and happy to change his/her life forever.

That is what it takes people, To be recognized in life, you will have to change your life forever from what you have always known, in order too achieve the result you wish to gain. Our leaders are trapped in the same game, as are their superiors, and their masters, up until the very top of the throne room ad the man sitting in the chair.

So what does it take to start that change, and do anyone have the resolve to get it done? I dont expect it, and neither is it foretold to occur yet. The Empire will reign for another hundred years at least. Only until the resources have reached the saturation point on the globe will the real options become apparant.


Aight good luck yall, ima just go right to ork in the monring and continue to spendn time with my family, not raising my blood pressure over things we know damn well we wont even be rememberin in our retirement years, for those of us lucky enough to make it that far.a

I thought the whole thing with his speech was that he was trying to encourage the kids to volunteer as to lead the way for his mandatory "volunteering". Imo, I don't believe he is just telling them to stay in school and that is all.

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Creepy very very creepy! I was disgusted by it to say the least. It sounded like they were worshipping a human being. Scary.

Read why presidents cant be trusted.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by GigaloCool
Read why presidents cant be trusted.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

What a silly comparison...

Sooo... When he pats kids on the back, tells them to stay in school, do their homework, amount to the absolutely most that they can personally accomplish, and extol the virtues of a good education, and DOESN'T ask children to join some auxiliary army in service to HIM and the coming of the new communist revolution, will you admit that your rhetoric is way off base?

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"You damn well know calling other Americans SOCIALISTS is an insult, our country spent many decades fighting the advances of that system."
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Benito Mussolini said: “Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”


Is it an insult to point out Benito Mussolini would agree the USA is fascist?.. and perhaps Obama is just the latest enabling puppet.

Sometimes it is what it is.

Originally posted by GovtFlu
reply to post by mental modulator

 

"You damn well know calling other Americans SOCIALISTS is an insult, our country spent many decades fighting the advances of that system."
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Benito Mussolini said: “Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”


Is it an insult to point out Benito Mussolini would agree the USA is fascist?.. and perhaps Obama is just the latest enabling puppet.

Sometimes it is what it is.

That quote is suspect. I have been trying to find a source for it for years and I have had no luck. All i see is the quote asserted but no context.

In any case, you're close in what you're saying.

Fascism is not the fusion of State + Corporations though... its' the domination of the State over the entire society.

The society has the pretense of private ownership of industry. However, the industry is totally regulated and controlled by the State. There is no independence.

The reason why Corporations always seem to be associated with Fascism is because between the companies and the States were a layer of management called the Corporate, which were like Industry Associations. They received the Agenda from the State. Then then planned which companies would do what in order to accomplish the goals of teh State.

The Corporates delegated the work from the State to the companies.


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Originally posted by VinceP1974
We're the ones acting from principle. Which is why we are mocked instead of counter-argued.

You're counter-argued left and right on this thread. You just don't like what you hear and you claim your being mocked. Fact is your assertions are born from a deep paranoia that's incredibly unproductive and very dangerous. You're right to be paranoid though, have at it.

You want to shut down a level of hope that hasn't been around in this country since JFK, all because you see clever videos that intertwine benign (and cute) performances by children celebrating the achievement of the first black President, one of the most hopeful people to hold that office in quite some time, and someone (whether you like it or not) that has energized the under 25 crowd in a way that hasn't been seen before in recent memory.

This is the problem with paranoia-stricken people like you...

You take genuine, grassroots, and young enthusiasm for Obama and his progressive (yes progressive) agenda and go straight to the deep end with it.

You don't like the progressive agenda? No problem... Tell me what's wrong with it. Let's debate that. Cut the propaganda, which is all I ever see you post.

Tell me exactly what you see wrong with a speech you have not read, has not been given, and quite possibly is not yet completely written?

Tell me exactly what is wrong with the President of the United States encouraging children to do better, to call them to the service of their country? To volunteer?

Thank goodness he's energized the youth of this country.

Thank goodness he's getting kids to know who the President is, to dream big, to be something.

And let's all hope he can use this popularity and "super star" status to change a few lives along the way, so that we don't have so many lost young kids that amount to absolutely nothing.

So yeah, it's your right to be paranoid. Go ahead. The rest of us will work on repairing this country, coming together as a people, improving the education of our children, and ensuring that we do not repeat the failed ways of the previous 8 years.


And BTW, there's nothing wrong with getting out of the way of a runaway train. What you do, however, is akin to leaving the freaken country before the train is ever even built. It's a bit early to be screaming "takeover."

Originally posted by GovtFlu
reply to post by mental modulator

 

"You damn well know calling other Americans SOCIALISTS is an insult, our country spent many decades fighting the advances of that system."
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Benito Mussolini said: “Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”


Is it an insult to point out Benito Mussolini would agree the USA is fascist?.. and perhaps Obama is just the latest enabling puppet.

Sometimes it is what it is.

Not to mention the socialism is a leftist authoritarian system and fascism is a rightist authoritarian system.

Yet the charge constantly leveled is socialism which is where the government dictates industry.

I would agree that the US is closer to fascism system... Where the industry dictates
policy with an assist from the government.

My problem with this conspiracy theory is that Obama has yet to show ANY authoritarian qualities. I think you guys siting in front of your computers have ZERO idea of what you are trying to equate.

IF Obama was going to be a dictator, he
would not go out and ask questions from people during speeches, he would tell people how it is gonna be. Frankly many like you would be disappearing by the droves
and your disappearance would be common knowledge in order to create fear .

Anyhow I can't take the paranoia tonight, good luck

PS if you really do believe this, I suggest you do not post anymore anti talk, instead use snail mail...

reply to post by VinceP1974


Again... Free to have your concerns. The American people don't give a care about the meaningless associations he had once upon a time. He was elected regardless.

And frankly, everyone in politics is suspect. That's not a new assertion, nor is it mutually exclusive to Obama. I'm not debating your right, or the correctness, in challenging our government or their motives. We have to do that. But there's a line to be crossed: One side where strong, aggressive dissent resides, and the other where people shout "communist" less than a year into a term, when most actions taken in that time period are in response to a number of emergencies that have been left over, many actions which were either already set in motion by the previous conservative president.

hey! OP! propaganda works!... you got duped!
i dont see anything about schoolwork or education in this crap.
i dont pledge to serve obama. i still know HE(SUPPOSEDLY) serves us!
this is not a democrat or republican thing, its our children he's trying to lead,because most of us are already know this guy's agenda.so like some wwII leaders he's attacking the youth. that puts him one generation away from belief in a radical,anamerican system.
are you really that blind,or are you just operating on opinion?
have you ever researched the communists and radicals this guy supports with jobs that dont answer to anyone but him?

we are one false flag away from this messiah declaring martial law,and activating his self built infrastructure.
martial law cannot be overridden by the congress or senate for 6 months after implementation.
GOOD THING HE HAS ANOTHER ONE TO PUT INTO POWER WHILE HIS EMERGENCY IS IN EFFECT,HUH?
do you have to get hit by a truck before you look both ways before crossing a street?

Frankly I think your view is propaganda induced paranoia-

Obama is not a dominate individual, he is the type of alpha male capable of the spirit needed to create a totalitarian regime. If you look at every single Authoritarian system in modern history you will see is was lead by MACHO men. Obama is a wind checker,
he shifts based upon opinion in a desire to PLEASE people. Have you seen him stammering? that is because he is thinking about the best way to phrase something...

SOCIALISM AND FASCISM are both AUTHORITARIAN SYSTEMS based upon NATIONALISM, the PEOPLE are the essential key to both. A dictator always stokes
the flames of crazy nationalism in order to justify what he and the people of the country are doing and saying. Like I said if you believe this guy is going to be a dictators
why in the hell are you posting this??? IF you believed it so much than you and all the others are not very SMART, your life and the life or your family would be in eminent
danger.

So if you are so convinced I suggest you go on the run now, Sadam would have YOU and EVERY PERSON you know burned, tortured and buried within a day, for real.

Same with Stalin

Hitler would advertise your death before it happened and before you awoke in the morning your door would be busted down and you would be disappeared.

You guys seem to be taking this lightly, I suggest you pack up, keep moving, stay off the phone, no credit cards and no computer... safe travels

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good name. are you referring to the :
almost 1,000,000,000,000 tarp fund emergency that had to be done immediatly ,but we only used 10% of so far?
or cap and trade?
or the healtcare emergency solution that won't take effect till 2013?
or the attempt to indoctrinate our youth?
or the civilian army he is building? he gave ameri corp half a trillion dollars to build this army. who is the enemy he's fighting? there is no more war on terror,or didnt you hear? oh and michele was a board member of that group too.
and i guess bush made him spend more money in his first 6 months than all the presidents in the last thirty years,huh?
what about bill ayres?
what about jeffrey carl jones?(apollo alliance,co founder of the weather underground,bill ayres bestest buddy) i know,just a coincidence,right?
mark lloyd?
van jones?
cass sunstein?
eric holdren?
all radicals,ior SELF AVOWED communists.
what about the facade about the AIG bonuses that he screamed about ,that congress approved? did you know that while that was going on,he had the federal reserve print 1.3 trillion dollars,and we bought our own debt? and did you know that in the recorded history of mankind,no nation has ever done that and survived?
it first causes massive unemployment,and then kills the country with hyper inflation. pre WWII germany and zimbabwe to give you 2 to look up.

so please explain to me what it is ,that is mentioned here that was in response to bush,would you?

and if i missed something that he fixsd after bush,could you remind me,because i started to think about it and drew a blank!!!!!!!
oh yeah i forgot,he stopped the war in iraq and afghanistan, didnt he?
he did promise to do that right away.
and i am willing to overlook the small error he made (2 trillion) on the budget. i know how that can happen,i washed a pair of pants last week with a trillion in the pocket. how silly of me not to check.

and please dont forget to look up the thread i started called WHERE DOES THE BAILOUT MONEY REALLY GO.
WELL TOMMY BOY,KEEP BLAMING THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION. IT KEEPS THE MESSIAH OFF THE HOOK.good luck dude.

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TRUE OR FALSE, IT IS A THOUGHT PROVOKING ARTICLE.
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Subject: here is a frightening article by an Israeli Psychologist


Israeli Psychologist On Obama


This is a very frightening article….one tthat requires some deep thinking


I hope this guy is wrong. We shall see.










Dr. Sam Vaknin is an Israeli psychologist. Interesting view on our new president.


Dr. Vaknin has written extensively about narcissism.


Dr. Vaknin states "I must confess I was impressed by Sen.Barack Obama from the first time I saw him. At first I was excited to see a black candidate. He looked youthful, spoke well, appeared to be confident - a wholesome presidential package. I was put off soon, not just because of his shallowness but also because there was an air of haughtiness in his demeanor that was unsettling. His posture and his body language were louder than his empty words. Obama's speeches are unlike any political speech we have heard in American history. Never a politician in this land had such quasi "religious" impact on so many people. The fact that Obama is a total incognito with zero accomplishment, makes this inexplicable infatuation alarming. Obama is not an ordinary man. He is not a genius. In fact he is quite ignorant on most important subjects."


Barack Obama is a narcissist.


Dr. Sam Vaknin, the author of the Malignant Self Love believes "Barack Obama appears to be a narcissist." Vaknin is a world authority on narcissism. He understands narcissism and describes the inner mind of a narcissist like no other person. When he talks about narcissism everyone listens. Vaknin says that Obama's language, posture and demeanor, and the testimonies of his closest, dearest and nearest suggest that the Senator is either a narcissist or he may have narcissistic personality disorder (NPD). Narcissists project a grandiose but false image of themselves. Jim Jones, the charismatic leader of People's Temple, the man who led over 900 of his followers to cheerfully commit mass suicide and even murder their own children was also a narcissist. David Koresh, Charles Manson, Joseph Koni, Shoko Asahara, Stalin, Saddam, Mao,Kim Jong Ill and Adolph Hitler are a few examples of narcissists of our time. All these men had a tremendous influence over their fanciers. They created a personality cult around themselves and with their blazing speeches elevated their admirers, filled their hearts with enthusiasm and instilled in their minds a new zest for life. They gave them hope! They promised them the moon, but alas, invariably they brought them to their doom. When you are a victim of a cult of personality, you don't know it until it is too late. One determining factor in the development of NPD is childhood abuse.


"Obama's early life was decidedly chaotic and replete with traumatic and mentally bruising dislocations," says Vaknin. "Mixed-race marriages were even less common then. His parents went through a divorce when he was an infant (two years old). Obama saw his father only once again, before he died in a car accident. Then his mother re-married and Obama had to relocate to Indonesia, a foreign land with a radically foreign culture, to be raised by a step-father. At the age of ten, he was whisked off to live with his maternal (white)grandparents. He saw his mother only intermittently in the following few years and then she vanished from his life in 1979. She died of cancer in 1995".


One must never underestimate the manipulative genius of pathological narcissists. They project such an imposing personality that it overwhelms those around them. Charmed by the charisma of the narcissist, people become like clay in his hands. They cheerfully do his bidding and delight to be at his service. The narcissist shapes the world around himself and reduces others in his own inverted image. He creates a cult of personality. His admirers become his co-dependents Narcissists have no interest in things that do not help them to reach their personal objective. They are focused on one thing alone and that is power. All other issues are meaningless to them and they do not want to waste their precious time on trivialities. Anything that does not help them is beneath them and do not deserve their attention.


If an issue raised in the Senate does not help Obama in one way or another, he has no interest in it. The "present" vote is a safe vote. No one can criticize him if things go wrong. Those issues are unworthy by their very nature because they are not about him. Obama's election as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review led to a contract and advance to write a book about race relations.


The University of Chicago Law School provided him a lot longer than expected and at the end it evolved into, guess what? His own autobiography! Instead of writing a scholarly paper focusing on race relations, for which he had been paid, Obama could not resist writing about his most sublime self. He entitled the book Dreams from My Father..


Not surprisingly, Adolph Hitler also wrote his own autobiography when he was still nobody. So did Stalin. For a narcissist no subject is as important as his own self. Why would he waste his precious time and genius writing about insignificant things when he can write about such an august being as himself? Narcissists are often callous and even ruthless. As the norm, they lack conscience. This is evident from Obama's lack of interest in his own brother who lives on only one dollar per month.


A man who lives in luxury, who takes a private jet to vacation in Hawaii, and who has raised nearly half a billion dollars for his campaign (something unprecedented in history) has no interest in the plight of his own brother. Why? Because, his brother cannot be used for his ascent to power.


A narcissist cares for no one but himself. This election is like no other in the history of America. The issues are insignificant compared to what is at stake. What can be more dangerous than having a man bereft of conscience, a serial liar, and one who cannot distinguish his fantasies from reality as the leader of the free world? I hate to sound alarmist, but one is a fool if one is not alarmed. Many politicians are narcissists. They pose no threat to others...They are simply self serving and selfish.


Obama evidences symptoms of pathological narcissism, which is different from the run-of-the-mill narcissism of a Richard Nixon or a Bill Clinton for example. To him reality and fantasy are intertwined. This is a mental health issue, not just a character flaw. Pathological narcissists are dangerous because they look normal and even intelligent. It is this disguise that makes them treacherous.

Today the Democrats have placed all their hopes in Obama. But this man could put an end to their party. The great majority of blacks have also decided to vote for Obama. Only a fool does not know that their support for him is racially driven. This is racism, pure and simple. The downside of this is that if Obama turns out to be the disaster I predict, he will cause widespread resentment among the whites.


The blacks are unlikely to give up their support of their man. Cultic mentality is pernicious and unrelenting. They will dig their heads deeper in the sand and blame Obama's detractors of racism. This will cause a backlash among the whites.


The white supremacists will take advantage of the discontent and they will receive widespread support. I predict that in less than four years, racial tensions will increase to levels never seen since the turbulent 1960's.


Obama will set the clock back decades... America is the bastion of freedom. The peace of the world depends on the strength of America, and its weakness translates into the triumph of terrorism and victory of rogue nations.

It is no wonder that Ahmadinejad, Hugo Chavez, the Castrists, the Hezbollah, the Hamas, the lawyers of the Guantanamo terrorists and virtually all sworn enemies of America are so thrilled by the prospect of their man in the White House. America is on the verge of destruction. There is no insanity greater than electing a pathological narcissist as president.






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You do know only the first paragraph in " "'s was actually written by Vaknin

The rest... The majority of the text your quoted was written Ali Sina

www.faithfreedom.org...

Propaganda comes in all shapes doesn't it?

Bait and switch bud, the first paragraph is of an expert but the meat of the article is not
So all the HITLER stuff, Stalin stuff is an OPINION of a non professional.



Point is there is a lot of this going around, if you want to hate, hate - but don't dilute yourself. If you think Obama fans are diluted then you need to ensure you are not, can't have two manipulated factions flying in every which direction.

"Hate" = What the Left does towards the people they oppose, and the Left assumes that everyone does towards those they disagree

Originally posted by mental modulator


Not to mention the socialism is a leftist authoritarian system and fascism is a rightist authoritarian system.

Wrong. There is nothing in American Right-Wing ideology that gets you to a Fascist state.

Again.. Mussilini formed Fascism , being heavily influenced by American Progressivism and Marxism

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I overheard a funnymentalist talking to a friend who was about to go to college once...and their advice was to go get an education...but not too much of one or they would run the risk of losing their faith.