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Originally posted by Angus123
ATS is edging closer and closer to WND territory it seems.
I miss the old days when tin foil hats were a fashion statement, lol.
Originally posted by Animal
...nuttier-then-squirrel-poop...
Originally posted by tommy_boy
I went back to your previous quote:
It absolutely is not the case that people are growing weary of his policies. I assume, since it is the biggy, you are referring to healthcare. Fact is that for every poll you can swing to infer below average approval (and it's usually a Rasmussen Poll), you can find more that say the opposite.
It's really not, as many on the Left would say, a frenzy drummed up by the Republican party and Fox News. Fox News isn't much better to me and many others than CNN and to label this as something manufactured by the Republicans is to misunderstand the movement entirely.
Wrong. There is no organic "movement" here. MSNBC and all other left-wing news outlets aside, do your homework. These are carefully orchestrated with a ton of money. Healthcare is quite possibly THE largest lobby in Washington. This is NOT grassroots, no matter how hard the repubs are trying to show that Obama is not the only one that can organize at that level. And the genuine drones that are following this astro-turf are brainless and do not think for themselves. Listening to the things they say is evidence of that.
Originally posted by Danang71
I say "I" but I'm far from alone. This movement is NOT led by any news organization, insurance front group or NeoCon money.
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by Animal
Wow... so the OP decides to start a thread in which he blatantly insults all Republicans, and conservatives, but after all his insults he gets off the hook because he says "but the left does the same"...like that negates every insult he threw at all Republicans...
This is nothing more than another thread of political baiting, and just the venting of a member who obviously just wanted to insult all members who are Republican, or conservatives
[edit on 5-9-2009 by ElectricUniverse]
Originally posted by tommy_boy
Originally posted by Danang71
I say "I" but I'm far from alone. This movement is NOT led by any news organization, insurance front group or NeoCon money.
Who said anything about news organizations leading this?
YOU assumed a chip on my shoulder for Fox News. Where do you want to start? With Conservatives for Patients Rights (CPR) and their crazy radical liar of a leader? Or with Freedom Works? I can go on and on with a list of the rightwing associations fueling and funding this astro turf. Don't forget the very health insurance company money that's controlling the Congress, funding the movement, and loading the town halls with employees.
No sir... NOT grassroots.
[edit on 5-9-2009 by tommy_boy]
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by tommy_boy
Perhaps if you decided to participate in threads where evidence is given BY ALL MEMBERS FROM ALL SIDES OF POLITICS, you "might" realize none of this has anything to do with any "right wing plot"...
But of course, people like you decide not to do so, and instead just make more exagerations, and engage in more politcal baiting when some member decides to start a thread which is only trying to blame and insult Americans, and members who happen to be Republican, or from some other part of the "right"...
I wonder why members like you don't participate much except to play the political agenda.
Originally posted by tommy_boy
Originally posted by Danang71
I say "I" but I'm far from alone. This movement is NOT led by any news organization, insurance front group or NeoCon money.
Who said anything about news organizations leading this?
YOU assumed a chip on my shoulder for Fox News. Where do you want to start? With Conservatives for Patients Rights (CPR) and their crazy radical liar of a leader? Or with Freedom Works? I can go on and on with a list of the rightwing associations fueling and funding this astro turf. Don't forget the very health insurance company money that's controlling the Congress, funding the movement, and loading the town halls with employees.
No sir... NOT grassroots.
Seriously, there's no evidence this is grassroots, but there's ALOT of money proving it's not.
ohh and by the way...
IT doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that this is not organic. When it's organic, you get organic concerns and questions. I can list almost EVERY question that is asked over and over at each town hall. The SAME talking points raised by all of these groups!!! That's planned my friend:
- Will Obama really institute a Death Panel that will my grandparents?
- Why are you incurring a debt our children will have to pay?!?! (nevermind these people weren't concerned about the same previously)
- Obama is taking my freedoms!!! (I keep using this one because it's the funniest).
- Will Congress be forced to enroll in the government plan?
On and on... Astro Turf, please....
[edit on 5-9-2009 by tommy_boy]
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by mental modulator
Oh please, now saying "Socialist" or "Socialism" is an insult?... Since when did that happen?... If a political candidate or president decides to implement laws, and program after program that is Socialist, I guess that doesn't make him a Socialist?...
[edit on 5-9-2009 by ElectricUniverse]
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by mental modulator
Oh please, now saying "Socialist" or "Socialism" is an insult?... Since when did that happen?... If a political candidate or president decides to implement laws, and program after program that is Socialist, I guess that doesn't make him a Socialist?...
There is a big difference between the insults the OP made, and calling someone a Republican, or Socialist... I happen to be a Republican, and I know that by just being called "Republican" that IS NOT AN INSULT, much less political baiting..
[edit on 5-9-2009 by ElectricUniverse]