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Originally posted by TheCoffinman
Residents of Chahar Dara district in northern Kunduz province say more than 150 civilians were killed and 20 others wounded in Friday's air strike by NATO-led forces
www.rawa.org...
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Originally posted by IDK88
They are not freedom fighters they are being led to their deaths and you support this?
Hell yeah I support it. I'd even be fighting for them if I didn't put Canada's interests ahead of my own. They are Afghans fighting for their country, they are not part of some American proxy government that will fail like every other conventional Afghan government.
Afghanistan was meant to be ruled by the people, and the US or any other imperial army will never conquer it. They've been beaten and raped and massacred and # on so many times in history that they know to only trust themselves and to fight off any invaders bringing "freedom" by bombs.
Afghanistan is a proving ground, and whoever will unite that country will be the rightful champion of the world (hopefully somebody understands what I mean by that). It will never be won by guns.
The Taliban and/or Al Qaeda can't win because it would be a violation of sub-atomic realities. On Earth as it is in Heaven...Ringing any bells in your massive brains? Since not many people have seen the relation between Quantum Mechanics and the structure of the Nation State...
Now we're getting all philosophical, eh? I don't know anything about quantum mechanics, but what I have figured out is that nation states have the same relation as an individual person. In fact, I believe that true and stable nations could (and should) have a single individual leader to represent everything their country stands for.
Sometimes I even look at countries as if they were people and I consider their personalities, strengths, relationships, etc. Consider what Afghanistan would be if it was a person, hardened in all aspects by constant fighting and totally against anyone trying to walk all over him.
[edit on 6-9-2009 by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi]
It's not like Canada is some mythical land where everything's different--I've been there and it's pretty much the same-just colder and less friendly.
Maybe you have forgotten that Afghanistan is ruled by the Northen Alliance, leaders of the former Afghan mujahideen and diaspora with Karzai head of state.. The only thing Taliban wants is to destroy the lives of women, educated people, artists, musicians, any individual that wants to deploy its owns skills in a free and open society..Something your country fights for as well, if you support the same people who brutaly kill your own countrymen with IED's and the most cowardly tactics, then that's your choice..I dont think great countries such as Canada win wars or peace with people like you...
Afghanistan Rights Monitor (ARM), a non-governmental group funded by domestic rights campaigners, said in a report based on more than a dozen interviews with local residents that between 60 and 70 civilians died in the September 4 strike in the Char Dara district of Kunduz province. "Preliminary reports received by ... ARM indicated 60-70 non-combatants died," said the Kabul-based group. "Even if all the victims were supporters of the Taliban the fact that most of them were unarmed and were not engaged in any combat activity does not warrant their mass killing."
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Taliban has their own culture. Americans may think it is barbaric, but Taliban thinks American culture is extreme. And guess what? Afghanistan is home territory of the Taliban and the US has no business going in there and telling Afghans how to live, especially when it is just a cover to make the US look like they are doing something positive when they obviously went there for more discreet and profitable purposes.
Originally posted by IDK88
Some member who should remain unnamed criticized me for what he calls and culturally insensitive remark regarding who Afghan people move themselves from point A to point B.
Originally posted by TreadUpon
reply to post by TheCoffinman
Just for the record, lets not forget that Robin Hood was no Marxist. The people were over taxed. The gov't taxed the people into starvation and poverty. Hood stole back from the tax collectors and returned the peoples money to them.
I cant let you lefties steal this legend too....