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U.S. Military Receives Order for Mandatory Vaccination

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posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 04:34 AM

Troops to receive H1N1 Flu vaccinations
Sep 2, 2009

By Jim Garamone, American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON (Sept. 1, 2009) -- All military personnel will be vaccinated against the H1N1 flu virus, and the vaccine will be available to all military family members who want it, a Defense Department health affairs official said today.

The H1N1 vaccination program will begin in early October, said Army Lt. Col. (Dr.) Wayne Hachey, director of preventive medicine for Defense Department health affairs.

The vaccine, which has been licensed by the Food and Drug Administration, will be mandatory for uniformed personnel, Hachey said. "What we want to do is target those people who are at highest risk for transmission," he said.

Health-care workers, deploying troops, those serving on ships and submarines, and new accessions are at the top of the list. "Any place where we take a lot of people, squash them all together and get them nice and close and put them under stressful conditions will get the vaccine first," he said.

The department will use the usual seasonal flu vaccine distribution chain for the H1N1, Hachey said, noting that while the mass H1N1 vaccinations are new to the general population, the process for vaccinating against seasonal flu is old hat for the Defense Department. "We've been doing this for decades," he said. "The system is tried and true."

The department initially will receive 1 million doses of the H1N1 vaccine, and another 1.7 million doses later in October.

Officials don't know yet whether people will need one dose or two, Hachey said. "The assumption right now is that people will need two doses, 21 days apart," he said. "That may change."

FDA officials still are studying H1N1 and the vaccine, and the results should be known by the end of the month.

Seasonal flu vaccine already is available, and the Defense Department will begin giving those shots shortly, Hachey said. "That has been our message to immunizers: to try and get as many people as they can immunized against the seasonal flu early," he said.

Guidelines for giving priority to family members will follow those for the general population, Hachey said. The Department of Health and Human Services is buying millions of doses of the vaccine.

"Installations are going to register with each state as an immunizer," Hachey said. "They will tell how many people they care for. This includes dependents, retirees and so on."

The Centers for Disease Control will place the order and will ship the vaccine where needed. Family members will have multiple opportunities to get the vaccine, whether at Defense Department medical facilities or off post, Hachey said.

The CDC has established target groups for those at greatest risk for transmitting or being affected by the H1N1. They include pregnant women, health-care workers, those younger than 25 or older than 65, and those with pre-existing health conditions.

Hachey said previous plans are serving the Defense Department well. "We have been preparing for pandemic flu because of its potential impact on the mission," he said.

The symptoms of the H1N1 flu are almost the same as the seasonal flu: fever, sore throat, runny nose, nausea, muscle aches and feeling rundown. The 2009 H1N1 virus - formerly known as swine flu - is a pandemic virus, according to the World Health Organization. U.S. officials call the virus "troubling" and urge communities across the United States to take actions to mitigate the effects of it. The federal government is urging states and municipalities to begin preparing now for the fall flu season.

President Barack Obama addressed the H1N1 pandemic following a White House meeting today.

"As I said when we saw the first cases of this virus back in the spring, I don't want anybody to be alarmed, but I do want everybody to be prepared," he said. "We know that we usually get a second, larger wave of these flu viruses in the fall, and so response plans have been put in place across all levels of government."

But government cannot do it all, and the American people have a responsibility to stop the spread of the disease, Obama said. "We need families and businesses to ensure that they have plans in place if a family member, a child or a co-worker contracts the flu and needs to stay home," he said.

"And most importantly, we need everyone to get informed about individual risk factors, and we need everyone to take the common-sense steps that we know can make a difference," the president said. "Stay home if you're sick. Wash your hands frequently. Cover your sneezes with your sleeve, not your hands. And take all the necessary precautions to stay healthy. I know it sounds simple, but it's important and it works."

The H1N1 is a never-before-seen combination of human, swine and avian flu viruses, officials said. First detected in Mexico in February, it quickly spread around the world. According to July WHO statistics, there have been 94,512 H1N1 cases worldwide, and 429 people have died from it. In the United States, 33,902 contracted H1N1, and 170 have died.


[edit on 4-9-2009 by Paroxysm]

posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 04:59 AM
Just follow orders or stand up for yourself and refuse. Guess we will find out later on. Mass insubordination, sickened Armed Forces, or business as usual.

posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 05:20 AM
ok I got an idea,what if they give some "unharmful" vaccines to some people,and give some bad to others, some people will start believing that the vaccine aint bringin any harm.
bang,some people die,but they say this is just because of the flu,they should've gotten the vaccine earlier or something

Hey just thinkin outside the box.
who knows,
thats my new theory

but i will refuse it anyway

posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 05:50 AM
reply to post by Paroxysm

I find the 21 days apart bit suspicious.
Almost sounds like the birth control pills...

posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 07:01 AM
Wow, scary stuff. I'm glad I'm not in the armed forces. I wonder what will happen to those that refuse? I guess only time will tell. Good luck to anyone this may affect!

posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 05:24 PM
This is hardly news, I knew they would do this well before they did, which actually was decided awhile back. The military always vaccinates their troops. Hell, I remember getting two mumps shots by accident in basic training (you go through an assembly line, and get a whole slew of shows, left and right arm, just go down the line and pop.. pop.. pop). It was very painful, as my lymph nodes swelled, especially under my armpits. Pushups sucked for a couple of weeks. Someone got reamed for it, I heard tho.

posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 05:56 PM
All military personel to be vaccinated? Does this include all foriegn troops currently "training" on US soil?

well....well....if our troops are too sick to "work"

think I understand

posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 06:07 PM
And what is the big deal? Military get all kinds of vaccinations..many that the general public does not get.

See link for list of military vaccinations:

Those in the military have no choice in the matter. It's an order. It's in their contract and they know in advance of enlisting that the government will be injecting them. It's something they should have thought about before signing on the dotted line.

EDIT for spelling...hey, It's Friday and its been a long week

[edit on 4-9-2009 by Aggie Man]

posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 08:41 PM
Well to be honest about signing on any dotted line, you really don't have time to read the fine print. I recall getting to Ft. Knox around 4 a.m. We were shaved, then allowed to sleep for almost 2 hours. Then you get a briefing where they scream at you a lot. Then you go to a "contraband" spot for a last chance to drop any contraband you might have without questions. Then you all file into a huge room and a massive stack of papers are given to you. I'd guess it would take a couple of days to actually thoroughly read them. You are however, given seconds to sign each before they go to the next. You sign the entire pile within 15 minutes or so.

I imagine of the many many documents I signed said I would happily get stabbed with whatever they wanted to. Heck, I probably signed something that said when I'm 50, I agree to work as a kitchen servant for the base commander. Who knows. I didn't die as a result of anything I got a shot from though, although the extra mumps shot wasn't fun.

posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 08:44 PM
reply to post by fleabit

Remember, "Press hard, you're making 8 copies!"

I saw the final copy; it was freakin' blank because the pen couldn't work thru all that paper and carbon.

posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 08:45 PM

Originally posted by fleabit
Well to be honest about signing on any dotted line, you really don't have time to read the fine print.

Typical of military recruiters. "Standing over your shoulder" as you do the paper work. To a young man or woman signing their life over, they sure don't won't you to have time to read the fine print.

[edit on 4-9-2009 by Aggie Man]

posted on Sep, 5 2009 @ 03:23 AM
I counted 21 jabs on my own personal military shot record, the yellow card that they gave you. Their system listed more. This is just what I had them write down when I remember to bring my card every time we had to get shots. This doesn't include any of the pills.

My favorite is the 5 shots of anthrax and the 3 jabs of smallpox, hurt like a *****.

I'll stay away from the H1N1 vaccine until I see what happens.

Just for some laughs, one of the stupid medics broke the penicillin needle in one of the soldiers butt when I was down at Ft Benning, and left it in there for over 5 min. We just busted out laughing and lined up somewhere else, and the soldiers that just faint in the middle of shots = priceless. We were prior service so the cadres left us alone.

Funny thing is, they have mats on the ground during inoculation just for fainters...

Side note: Chapter 11 failure to adapt w/ dishonorable discharge if the military wants to reprimand you. So I guess if you refuse *necessary shots* it's up to the commanders decision.

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