reply to post by silo13
I am more than willing. You are very welcome. We are all just trying to be as we ultimately are, or we have given up being altogether, as if it is
an impossible quest. Besides, I know that you and others in this thread helped spark my fire; i view it sort of as the elements cannot be created,
but molecules most certainly can be synthesized. I also fully acknowledge that my perception of others is certainly a reflection of aspects that I
potentially carry within my very own self.
1- The people that find this highly disturbing.
Regarding the people who find this highly disturbing, it is of course related to their mindset or lack thereof in the here and now, so responses might
have been quite different if viewed at another point in mental setting. There is no such thing as a fixed self (at least regarding an incomplete
self, but a complete self would have to encompass all of infinity and its infinities, infinitely, in infinite perspective, and also be able to guide
aspects of infinity toward itself); there is only a context within which a self can evolve or devolve, in which it may emerge or collapse.
That being said, I view those who find this highly disturbing (trust me folks, I am not pigeonholing anybody, I am just being general to carry across
my view) to be hopeful for love, in general. Love is a very encompassing term and metaphysical reality of symbiotic connection. I say they are
hopeful for love, but not quite yet faithful. I say that they, as have we all, have aspects, spooks, shadows, demons, mental/psychological/spiritual
constructs within us that we do not face out of fear. There is still too much faith in the false image birthed from domination and MANIPULATION.
Anyway, so out of the fear springs a barrier to block concepts that are deep within, and have much influence whether we choose to be aware of them or
not. I think the video reminds many of our very own fears and shadows, not only by virtue of the shadows being on the inside, but also because this
video seems very synchronistic and discordant simultaneously.
I would also say that the "Beast" is very real in terms of influence. Even if it is only a singularity of selfish imprints in relation to the
functioning of our brains, it has real power. It has gained a life of its own, a god status. I think the pig screams this idea. It is not a
comfortable thing to acknowledge that we have been unwitting puppets, beasts masquerading as divine.
Rants summarized on #1: I think that this category sees itself on the side of good, but still has many unresolved judgments, lack of forgiveness, and
multiple projector reels playing. Of course it is not quite that simple, by any means, but it is reflective of a greater truth.
2 - The people who feel nothing and in fact celebrate it.
I think the people who feel nothing and celebrate might have switched, at least in a very specific context, from hoping for love to fearing that it
might never be. If beautiful harmony is viewed as unattainable, and we must still be, we must celebrate something; it might as well be discord, as it
is reflective of the hate, division, domination, manipulation, harrowing, judgmental, hypocritical, etc. that has so much power in our order. We must
always have faith in something, even if it is faith in the nothing, nihilism. A mind without faith is a mind that cannot create; it is rather not a
mind at all.
Of course, the above in #2 is too general, but still reflective of a pattern that repeats. Some might just be stuck in an uncomfortable train of
thought or loop, and this oddity distracted them. There are a myriad of possibilities, for #1 and #2, but I think the general answers are quite
telling of forces that replicate and grow throughout human relations.
I also want to add that I do not want to ANALyze anybody. Your motives are as unique as you are. I am just trying to shine light on some patterns
that very much seems to take on a life of their own. They supply roots for us to grow and branch out; whether or not we perceive these roots is
irrelevant to them affecting us. What is relevant, however, is that through awareness, we can shop through a lovely store full of ugly and lovely and
everywhere-in-between roots, If we can actually see these roots, if we hear the sounds that separate and echo in many different form, then we can
choose the foundations that create a more beautiful, more abundant, more loving world.
[edit on 4-9-2009 by orwellianunenlightenment]