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reply posted on 2-6-2004 @ 11:01 PM by The Vagabond
From reading your link about OKLO reactions, I gather that they produce enriched uranium, and that the process lasts about a million years.

The finds in the great lakes area were dated as being only in the 10s of thousands of years old, and they contained depleted uranium in all but two cases. They do not seem to fit the description of an OKLO reaction.

EDIT:
I googled "Mahabharata" + "fraud", as well as "Iron thunderbolt + hoax". I have found assertions of your point, mostly blaming nexus for starting this, and apparently assuming that all versions online are derived from Nexus' version. Unfortunately nobody has seen fit to provide evidence rather than pointing a finger at Nexus, so i'll have to actually find a translation of the Mahabharata. I can't say I'm too happy about having to read (or at least skim) such a large book, but that's the price you pay for being quick to believe what you read online.

I went back and reviewed my earlier postings as well. I never claimed that all or even many ancient civilizations had pre-historical nuclear wars, nor did I say that the stories I cited were certainly nuclear in nature (although I did venture a wild guess in one case only- the pyramid war). I was answering a question about which cultures I am aware of that have ancient stories of a huge war. If you respond to my actual statement, you can't include Egypt in your list. Egyptians believed in a war between Osiris, Horus, and Set. There was supposed to be a Sumerian story about a war between Enki and Enlil but a few of my favorite online encyclopedias know nothing of this, and have corrected errors in the source of that story, so I must conclude that the war story is a hoax or a bad interpretation

I'll check out the native american angle later.

I have to say, I'm glad to get some good direction on this subject for a change. It would be sorta nice if you'd spell it out for me instead of just inspiring me to spend hours double checking details in the encyclopedia, but at least I learned something new.
I'm amazed by the fact that it's often harder to establish the truth as a fact than it is to establish a myth as such. The fact that true events will generally be accompanied by evidence, which can be misinterperted, or some of which may appear contradictory, gives truth a disadvantage against neatly self-contained stories with false bibliographies that the average person will be unable to verify. In the case of the "pyramid war" story, I could find no evidence of absence until I realized that the page promoting that story had gotten Enki's origin wrong, which lead me into seeing a wide gap between the story and the ecyclopedia entry on Sumerian mythology.

[Edited on 3-6-2004 by The Vagabond]


reply posted on 3-6-2004 @ 10:08 PM by Cardu

Then the Lord rained upn Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven. And he overthrew those cities, and all the pain and all the inhabitants of cities, and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of pain, and beheld, and, lo, the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a furnace.

Is the fire that rained upon Sodom and Gomorrah a missile or bomb? Isn’t the total devastation described by the author reminiscent of Hiroshima and
Nagasaki? Doesn’t the smoke of this explosion remind you of the mushroom cloud created by an atomic bomb?

The inevitable question is why extraterrestrials would want to destroy a corrupted earthly city. If my assumption is correct, the answer would most likely be connected to alien intervention in our genetic development.
Perhaps their intervention included safeguarding their genetic handiwork. That is, ensuring that no undesirable genetic strains or mutations occurred. It it is clear that many residents of Sodom and Gomorrah practiced acts that were considered deviant, most notably homosexuality. But could they have become genetically polluted by homosexual acts? Of course not. But some researchers suspect that they went beyond homosexuality. Way beyond. I’ve read translations of ancient documents that reports sexual acts as deviant as bestiality in some places, including Sodom and Gomorrah. If those reports are correct, genetic pollution could indeed have occurred, because mankind was said to be at a phase in the genetic intervention process when humans and lower species of animals could produce offspring together. Those same documents allege that many of the old myths and pictures that show human-animal hybrid creatures were therefore to be taken literally.



reply posted on 27-5-2008 @ 06:46 AM by C.C.Benjamin
Hi Byrd

I have a lot of respect for your posts and your debunking ability, but your assertion that vimanas were not flying machines is completely contrary to the Wikipedia article on the subject.

I believe if you check
here you'll see vimanam is the temple roof, and vimana is indeed an ancient flying chariot, and has made it into modern Indian languages as the definition of "airplane".

The article on vimanas seems pretty reliable too, with sources cited and sensible examples given.

If you feel this information to be inaccurate, could you please provide sources?


Vagabond

Excellent job. There is a lot of reason to think a long time ago something like a massive war did happen, that has been remembered as religion and gods.

I especially like Irish mythology. Dian Cecht of the Tuatha Dé Danann is credited with building King Nuada a working silver arm (a stainless steel bionic replacement, presumably), which Cecht's son then improved upon by creating a living arm and reattaching that to King Nuada's stump instead (vat-grown limbs).

Balor of the Evil Eye is interesting too, because even after Lugh managed to drive the eye out of the back of Balor's head, the eye still continued to send it's "laser" beam out and destroy Balor's own army. If this was the anthropomorphised story of a hero destroying or disabling the main weapon of a battle tank, it would not surprise me. Especially as some legends make reference to Balor requiring a team of men with ropes and pulleys to open his eyelid.


All ancient mythologies have the artisan god(s) or beings, who create the weapons the gods use, as the gods cannot create these things by themselves. This is very much akin to the chief engineer or doctor of a ship. These people were in charge of the subject, hence they became the god of it.


If anyone can provide any more examples of ancient myths that are clearly technology (like Nuada's bionic arm), please post them as I'd like to get a database of sorts going.


reply posted on 24-9-2009 @ 05:01 PM by Durabys
reply to post by The Vagabond



By the Gods, SHUT UP. Sorry I had to get it out, because I would explode. V ... you should know that mecury is now, presently used in a specila kind of a machine. In finland in a local particle accelator, they discovered that if they put a combination of rare metals like cobalt with mercury together , cooled beneath 180 degree celsius and aply strong variable pulsating electro-magnetic fields to this mixture and began to rotating it at a speed of 50000 rotations per second ... the electro/quantum antigravitic/gravitic effects would increase 10.000.000.000.000.000.000 folds (yes you read right 10 bilion trilion times more than predicted by MST)!!! against all Main Stream Theorys (String, Quantum, not-revised Einstein). There is good thread about it : www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 12/08/09 by Durabys]


reply posted on 24-9-2009 @ 05:49 PM by The Vagabond
reply to post by Durabys



What a lovely idea you have. Do something useful with it and I will readily believe my eyes.


reply posted on 24-9-2009 @ 08:56 PM by RoofMonkey
Originally posted by BasementAddix
not possible that it was lightening?



Fulgurites (from the Latin fulgur meaning thunderbolt) are natural hollow glass tubes formed in quartzose sand, or silica, or soil by lightning strikes. They are formed when lightning with a temperature of at least 1,800 °C (3,270 °F) instantaneously melts silica on a conductive surface and fuses grains together; the fulgurite tube is the cooled product. This process occurs over a period of around one second, and leaves evidence of the lightning path and its dispersion over the surface


en.wikipedia.org...

And these guys use a similar effect by discharging high voltage electricity into clear acrylic forming Lichtenberg figures. They then sell what they make.


As for the radioactive areas.... I have seen papers about copper smelting in the area. The idea being that the ore that they used was high in radioactive material and the hot spots are just trailings from ancient smelting operations.

Another possibility is that they are similar to the naturally occurring nuclear reactors. They were discovered by (French?) scientists who were looking at ore samples. The ore's radioisotope concentration indicated that it had already been through a reactor. Doing a similar measurement at the Indian sites could determine a bit more about the source.

Natural Nuclear Reactors


And.. of course... possibility number three is that there was a nuclear exchange between waring factions in the distant past.






[edit on 24-9-2009 by RoofMonkey]



reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 10:07 PM by lilwolf
Originally posted by darkAngel
This member copied his post from here:
www.unexplained-mysteries.com...


Warnings are adding up!

[Edited on 14-5-2004 by SkepticOverlord]




One has but to actually read the Mahhabaratah in its entirety... it makes perfect sense when you really get into the history and what it was written about....

Many (if not all) of my hindi friends and business asscoaiates all say it happened..and unless we are very careful...history is going to repeat itself...and very soon.


reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 11:11 PM by Hanslune
reply to post by lilwolf



Always take religious beliefs with a large block of salt. The Archaeology of India shows that there were no nuclear wars nor any 'advance' technology floating around during the time of their myths.

Part of the problem is 'aggressive' translations by 20th century 'beleivers' who distorted the message that has come to us from those periods. They were talking about gods and demons. Not real people, just like most every other religion.
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