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*ANOTHER UFO video - Skeptics try again!!

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posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 11:32 PM
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I hear ya Johnny, but if we dismiss any video that is compressed (which is over %80 of all videos on the web) which leaves less then %20 being fake/natural phenomena/satellite/Birds (for sake of conversation) and if you discount those, you're left over with less then %1 of videos being possible legit UFO sightings!

We can't assume that %99 of videos out there are not valid! Many people take events on their cellphones, poor camera, bad conversion (compressed) or just bad job filming, yet their stories support a real contact with UFO. That means we might possibly not be considering some REAL UFO events just because they fall in the %1 category!

I do agree that seeing a raw tape with tons of info on the event would help greatly but at the same time we're closing ourselves up to many other possible UFO events!

Also let me ask you something, based on your experience! If 99.9% of the sightings are not UFO and 0.1% are, doesn't that support the fact that there are UFO visiting earth, isn't that enough to believe?




posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 03:17 AM
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Originally posted by freighttrain
if we dismiss any video that is compressed (which is over %80 of all videos on the web) which leaves less then %20 being fake/natural phenomena/satellite/Birds (for sake of conversation) and if you discount those, you're left over with less then %1 of videos being possible legit UFO sightings!


It's that one percent (for the sake of argument since these are your words) that interest me the most


We can't assume that %99 of videos out there are not valid!


Yes we can and should. People for the most part are ignorant or unfamiliar to the laws of Physics, Science and Photography. How many times have you heard or read about a photograph that 'supposedly' caught a UFO that they did not see. Generally these photographs are of a bug or a bird that appears as a smudge mark/streak due to slower "speeds and f-stops". Yes, there are the occasional shots that are caught randomly that require more scrutiny, but the others have to be dismissed. No matter how bad one may want something to be paranormal or extraterrestrial, it still will be inconclusive. And we haven't even included the numerous CGI creations and hoax's that are constantly presented as real, remember the Drone hoax's that got a ton of publicity that turned out to be CGI creations? If an object can be duplicated then occams razor plays into affect and becomes a factor of doubt that we can not ignore. And speaking of Hoax's.. check this site out where they actually have a UFO Contest to create fake UFO's UFO CONTEST . One of the contestants even duplicated the infamous Phoenix Lights Phenomena for under $30.oo and was convincing too..!

Now obviously I'm just touching on one or two scenarios but there are many we could interject into this including "orbs' (and rods), both of which are easily duplicated yet many continue to believe that every speck of out of focus dust particulate they see is an orb. Again, there are a few (in the 1 or 2% department), that makes me raise my eyebrows and take a closer look.


If 99.9% of the sightings are not UFO and 0.1% are, doesn't that support the fact that there are UFO visiting earth, isn't that enough to believe?


No. It only supports the fact that at this time we currently can not identify what the object is with the available data. Just because it remains as a UFO is in no way a indication that it's extraterrestrial. We could theorize a number of scenarios and suppositions as to what that UFO might be.. If we really want to think out of the Box, why limit it to simply Aliens, why couldn't it be possibly just "us" from the future on some Time traveling tour? But for the most part, I lean towards the majority of these UFO's simply being a top secret military project observed and captured (which in itself is very interesting),.

Remember where your at and posting? Were AboveTopSecret.com and our Core Motto is to Deny Ignorance! We attempt to deny ignorance and not just blindly follow and think that everything we watch or read supports ones own belief system. Just as a detective needs proof to support his assumptions in a criminal case, shouldn't we do likewise?

Johnny


[edit on 9/4/2009 by JohnnyAnonymous]



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 12:04 PM
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Well said my friend! I do agree with what you're saying... I guess the part that I'm stuck on is, how to define "proof/evidence"! To some (mostly logical people) proof has to be experience with all 5 sense for it to be legit, where for someone like me, may use other sensory perceptions to justify a case to be legit!

If I were to tell you what happened to me, it's just my word (for people that know me in real life that maybe enough to justify my case) but to many strangers I may simply be another urban city hobo telling stories of my hillusinations!

It's a fine line how to define "proof/evidence" !



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 12:29 PM
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it is mathematically impossible for Earthlings to be the only lifeforms in the Universe


correct.
ask my cat, why is it humans think they special? "god" is why..

Basic logic = aliens



oh and math we call this gem probability and it's 1, the universe made "all" life this includes little green men and my alien cat



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 01:12 PM
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Ya, I never figured out why we think we're so damn special, we can destroy other beings/planets for our needs! Damn, we're so arrogant... even your cat knows better then most...



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 01:21 PM
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God damnit i was with you on the last thread, but come on, this is a satellite that he has filmed, then filmed again on a screen and turned the camera round to make it look like its doing a 90' degree turn.

No S+F



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 03:03 PM
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lol, I thought he's turning the camera to follow the object!


Ps. I still do think the last object is a UFO and not a bird!



[edit on 4-9-2009 by freighttrain]



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 03:48 PM
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What last object?



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 03:51 PM
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he meant in the last thread he posted. The one that shows an object flying around erratically.



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