White House Withdraws Call for Students to 'Help' Obama

reply to post by warrenb


Darn warrenb I think the Obama administration were reading your first post on this issue yesterday



Honestly I knew this was going to happen, because that is exactly what the whole pony show concocted by the White house was going to look like
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Perhaps Obama "advisers" realized that many of the children were going to be lead by their parents on many of the answers to the questions of "help" I guess this was not going to look very good, like asking the president to show prove of his "birth certificate" among many other things.

I am just laughing at the prospect.

[edit on 3-9-2009 by marg6043]

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


BH, I'm willing to accept what you say if you can show me where Bush did it. I've looked and can't find anything. And to add, it's not the messenger so much as the message.

IF what he said was ok, then why change it?

Originally posted by marg6043

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Perhaps Obama "advisers" realized that many of the children were going to be lead by their parents on many of the answers to the questions of "help" I guess this was not going to look very good, like asking the president to show prove of his "birth certificate" among many other things.

I am just laughing at the prospect.

[edit on 3-9-2009 by marg6043]

hahahah Marg....that's a hoot!! I never even thought of that!!

I posted this info elsewhere. Seems appropriate to post it here as well ...

The picture here says it all ...
(picture by Leo Alberti )

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Obama's Campaign. No Junior Lobbiest Left Behind

Salt Lake Trubune -

Children at Eagle Bay Elementary School in Farmington were shown a short video called "I pledge" on Aug. 28. The video opens with an image of President Barack Obama and part of a speech in which he says, "Let us summon a new spirit of patriotism, of responsibility where each of us resolves to pitch in and work harder and look after not only ourselves but each other." The video then features celebrities making pledges about how they will help the president and the world -- and that's where some say the problem lies.

Here's the ATS thread on the video -

I pledge to be a servant to our president ... '

reply to post by FlyersFan

I see that the “Aides” are taking the flack. While it is great that Omamanation is listening to the People of this country, I still feel it is WRONG of him to even Consider “Talking” to the Children.
I agree that there are many parents lacking in parenting skills, and have Not taught their Children the importance of an education. I wouldn’t mind this being taught in school. As a matter of fact I think it was, I hope it still is. I also remember in Social Studies, being taught that it was important to help the poor, by volunteering, and by donating old clothing, boots and shoes. Do they Not still do this?
I just tried to look up Social Study’s and found the following, made my head explode!

Social Studies for Kids
Ramadan is a month long fast observed by Muslims to honor the revelation of the Word to Muhammad. This year, Ramadan begins on August 21.
Nope, didn’t like this at all. My children don’t Need to know about Muslim customs , holidays or religion, they live in the U.S.A. I don’t give a Flip what Other Countries do, the last time I looked we are Still U.S. citizens. They can shove the NWO.
www.socialstudiesforkids.com...

Oh, my got does anybody have the new advertisement video that shows children on schools doing the pledge of the legion but the words are about them pledging for the end of the deficit and how deep their future is getting into? at the end a littler girl said "it sucks".

Somebody needs to post that video is hilarious.

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Can you imagine children asking why the health care reform will suck to them or how is that the stimulus has not made anything to stop the job loses in the nation?

After all children tend to be more open and honest than adults.

Originally posted by mikerussellus
BH, I'm willing to accept what you say if you can show me where Bush did it.

Several past presidents have addressed the nation's children:

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George W Bush

...regularly visit individual schools and discuss the importance of education with students.

We did learn, however, that President George H.W. Bush addressed the nation's students in a televised speech during school hours in 1991. ''I can't understand for the life of me what's so great about being stupid,'' Bush said, according to news reports from the time. He told students to ''block out the kids who think it's not cool to be smart'' and ''work harder, learn more.''

And to add, it's not the messenger so much as the message.

What message? Get good grades? Do well in school?

President Barack Obama plans to speak to the nation's schoolchildren on Sept. 8. According to the U.S. Department of Education, the speech will be about "the importance of persisting and succeeding in school," and the department is offering classroom materials to "engage students and stimulate discussion on the importance of education in their lives."

IF what he said was ok, then why change it?

I've already addressed this. Because suspicious people went batcrap crazy over rumors, most likely spread by the likes of Glenn Beck.

Besides, he hasn't changed the speech, just the suggestions to teachers for follow up questions and activities.

[edit on 3-9-2009 by Benevolent Heretic]

What Presdient said,Ask not what you can do for you country,but what you country can do for you.Our President should never ask children that can't vote,and some can't even write yet,to do something like he is asking.The USA is a free country,hope we can keep it that way.Also I always thought the President was a US citizen,so why do we need to call him a African-American,if he was born in the US then he is a plan and simple AMERICAN.I am white but really lets call it what it is,I am a fair skinned American,which is in my book a person.Our President is not white or black,so why all the fuss.Now if I go to work to day,know one should have to do my job.So Obama took on this country,now get to work.Stop trying so hard to change it into another counrty,let our children get an education which is what we send them to school for.The teachers give them enough work each day with out you putting more on them.Obama thinks so highly of Ex President Kenndy,well he didn't try to make our country a socialist.or solviet country.He didn't say be Africia,he called it the land of the free.Where did this come from,written by the people, for the people.We are the people.What can our goverment do for us.I have know health insurance,thanks to our goverment,am hungry,and so tired of worrying.Wake up folks.Oh and while we are on it where was Obama really born?I hope they do withdraw Sept.8th,because I have grandsons in grade school who should not be subjected to this bull.I do not believe our new President will work for us but yet for himself and wifey,he shows know growth at all,looks like a train wreck.Our country is really in trouble this time.

At the time of Bush's televised speech, here's what the "parties" had to say about it:

Democrats at the time criticized the speech. "The Department of Education should not be producing paid political advertising for the president, it should be helping us to produce smarter students," said Richard Gephardt, then the Democratic majority leader in the House of Representatives.

Republican Newt Gingrich defended Bush's speech, though. "Why is it political for the president of the United States to discuss education?" Gingrich said at the time. "It was done at a nonpolitical site and was beamed to a nonpolitical audience. . . . They wanted to reach the maximum audience with the maximum effect to improve education."

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Congratulation to all you party loyalists! You fit right in.

Unfortunately, only your children will lose out on this one. You see, they don't give a crap about the letter that appears behind their president's name. But go ahead and keep them out of school, forbid them listening to the president's encouraging words, telling them that they can do anything and to do well in school and graduate high school. Instead, pass your fear and bitterness down to them.

[edit on 3-9-2009 by Benevolent Heretic]

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


It'll be real interesting to put both side-by-side.

See what the "messaage" is.

My son and I are still going to the aquarium though, even though I'm scheduled for sugery, I'll get to park in the handicapped spot!

Originally posted by wingsofanangel
Our President should never ask children that can't vote,and some can't even write yet,to do something like he is asking.

What is he asking?

You haven't seen the speech. You haven't read a transcript. How do you know what he's going to say???

reply to post by marg6043


Here it is. From defeatthedebt.com

www.youtube.com...

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


We had a fair idea until the flip-flop...

Before the Speech:
• Teachers can build background knowledge about the President of the United States and his speech by reading books about presidents and Barack Obama and motivate students by asking the following questions:
Who is the President of the United States?
What do you think it takes to be President?
To whom do you think the President is going to be speaking?
Why do you think he wants to speak to you?
What do you think he will say to you?
• Teachers can ask students to imagine being the President delivering a speech to all of the students in the United States. What would you tell students? What can students do to help in our schools? Teachers can chart ideas about what they would say.
• Why is it important that we listen to the President and other elected officials, like the mayor, senators, members of congress, or the governor? Why is what they say important?
During the Speech:
• As the President speaks, teachers can ask students to write down key ideas or phrases that are important or personally meaningful. Students could use a note-taking graphic organizer such as a Cluster Web, or students could record their thoughts on sticky notes. Younger children can draw pictures and write as appropriate. As students listen to the speech, they could think about the following:
What is the President trying to tell me?
What is the President asking me to do?
What new ideas and actions is the President challenging me to think about?
• Students can record important parts of the speech where the President is asking them to do something. Students might think about: What specific job is he asking me to do? Is he asking anything of anyone else? Teachers? Principals? Parents? The American people?

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reply to post by mikerussellus


Thanks, I see the littler girl said "it stinks not It sucks"

If you can, will you post the pledge in words for ATS, I think the whole commercial is hilarious.

Also we can't pray in school,can't have Christmas,holidays,because it might offend people from other countrys that came to ours to be free,which I would not go to their country and make them change their way of life,then let our country alone,and keep polictics out of the school systems.Or put prayer back because we are going to need it.

reply to post by marg6043


Children: I pledge allegiance to America's debt, and to the Chinese government that lends us money. And to the interest, for which we pay, compoundable, with higher taxes and lower pay until the day we die.

Voiceover: American tax payers owe more than $500 million in interest payments every day to cover our government's debt, much of that debt is owe by foreign governments. Go to DefeatTheDebt.com.

Girl: Debt Stinks.

I especially like this line..

Why is it important that we listen to the President and other elected officials, like the mayor, senators, members of congress, or the governor? Why is what they say important?

The message is to accept what is told to you without asking any questions. Wow!

Hey kiddies don't ask Charlie Rangel about his finances and tax evasion. Don't ask gov. Sanford about his mistress. Don't ask Barney Frank about the male escort that ran his business out of Frank's apartment. Don't ask Obama about his connections to crooked Chicago politics. Don't ask John Edwards about his illegitmate child.

I could go on and on. Dems and Reps. all included.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Unfortunately, only your children will lose out on this one. You see, they don't give a crap about the letter that appears behind their president's name. But go ahead and keep them out of school, forbid them listening to the president's encouraging words, telling them that they can do anything and to do well in school and graduate high school. Instead, pass your fear and bitterness down to them.

[edit on 3-9-2009 by Benevolent Heretic]

Actually if your kids are going to public school at all they are loosing out. When Public schools could be teaching a child about astronomy, or architecture, instead they will listen to America's number one political Jackass tell them all about how "they can do it". Not only is that insulting enough, but then they have to write a letter....... to themselves nonetheless, about how they are going to help this economic retard, and his merry band of sycophantic intellectual lightweights residing in the halls of congress.......

After that, they can have a discussion about what the "President wants them to do". (Besides enlist in the military and get killed in Afghanistan, of course, we won't talk about that.)

Maybe they'll finish up the day with a nice discussion about how debt is truly a wonderful thing. And how easy it will be to run a national health care system when the country already has over 22 trillion in obligations from Medicare alone.

Oh yeah....... public school children will really loose big time if they go to the museum instead of school that day.

[edit on 3-9-2009 by aravoth]