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Looking for a leader, Tea Partiers issue invite to Palin

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posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 08:30 PM
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So you are going to defend the Chinese now? Odd since they represent the single biggest threat to the American way of life. If you read my post I said no disrespect meant.

If I didn't know any better, I'd think you enjoy arguing for argument's sake and playing devil's advocate.


BTW, someone on this forum that I used to highly respect gave me some sage advice once. They advised me to never take things personally or too serious here on the forum. Sound familiar? When things get heated, I like to infuse a little levity. So shoot me.

ON TOPIC:

I endorse the basic ideals of the Tea Party movement. If Palin becomes involved, I'll likely become decaffeinated.

[edit on 3-9-2009 by kinda kurious]




posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 08:35 PM
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Sarah Palin sucks.
The tea party movement has no place for this idiot of a woman.

It shows me that the idiot asking her to join as a leader is bought and paid for by the GOP...




posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 08:48 PM
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Originally posted by jsobecky
reply to post by Hal9000
 


First off, the protestors were not all right-wingers. I remember seeing protestors being interviewed, and they consisted of all political segments, Republican, Democrat, and Independents.

Well then someone better explain that to these guys in Ohio because something tells me they missed that memo. The group that sponsored the event are called summit912 which was inspired by Glenn Beck's call to organize against the liberals. You only need to spend a moment on that sight to see it is anything but non-partisan.


Originally posted by jsobecky
Next,, why weren't they held before the election? Simple. Because of the policies and decisions made after the election. Obama hasn't done one thing right yet. That fact, compounded by his lies and broken pledges, are the reasons his poll numbers are plummeting and the people are angry. They don't want increased gov't. They may admit that health care needs to be reformed, but they don't think that adding a huge bloated federal bureaucracy is the way to reform it.

Nope, nothing here that speaks partisan.


What I read between the lines in most of your posts is what I would consider wishful thinking. You may want things to be a certain way, but that doesn't make it so. You want the tea parties to be independent, but from what I've seen they are not. You may want to see Obama go down in flames, but that doesn't mean he will. Otherwise, I would like to see those interviews from independents that support the tea parties.

I would agree that right now this country does need to break out of the two party system and I understand your wanting to disassociate yourself with the previous republican administration, but there is a price to be paid for supporting the previous administration like those that did. Maybe not you personally, because I am speaking metaphorically.

The whole time I was at this tea party, I kept asking myself, "Where were all these patriots when we were mislead into war with Iraq?" Why didn't they question the reasons. We knew our troops would be killed. We knew it would add to the deficit. We knew we would be stuck there for years, but we did it anyway and republicans cursed those that protested against the war.

Where were all these patriots? IMHO, they were too busy beating the drums of war to protest against it and now the table has turned and they want support from outside their party?

Well my friend, think again.



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 08:55 PM
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YAHAAAAAAA!!!

PALIN 2012!!!



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Stick with Ron Paul's rEVOLution. Don't let it be sullied by the teabags.

I always said that RP's biggest mistake was signing back up as a republican. He should have remained an independent, but probably still would have lost the election. He is still important because he has shown that this country is ready for an alternative party, and he addressed the issues and raised the consciousness of a lot of young voters. I think that was great.



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 09:03 PM
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This is true, I would have never woke up if it wasn't for Ron Paul. I was never into politics or anything untill that man come along, i'm sure there are other people out there that can relate.



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 09:28 PM
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I'm sorry man. Ron Paul is too far out there.
I still want to see him at the presidential debate.
I want to hear what he has to say.



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 09:56 PM
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Ron Paul is DEFINATELY way out there, but here is a reality check - the solutions to our problems are way out there.
The man speaks truth to power - period.
And I applaud it.



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 10:09 PM
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I hope Ron Paul runs again in 2012.
The debates were good in 2008.
I hope Ron Paul is in Washington DC Sept 12.
Lets hear what he has to say.
I'm listening.



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 02:09 AM
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You may want things to be a certain way, but that doesn't make it so. You want the tea parties to be independent, but from what I've seen they are not.


Well, for starters:


What the Tea Parties Were Not

If you’ve turned on any news program in the last few weeks, you’ve probably heard multiple stories about the Tax Day Tea Parties. Stories of rogue and racist Americans, stories of citizens who are disgruntled because Barack Obama won the Presidential election, and stories of selfish people who are out of touch with the United States.

99% of what you probably heard is untrue.

I had the opportunity to attend the Atlanta Tea Party with what felt like 20,000 of my closest friends. I saw people from all walks of life, of all different colors, and of all ages. I met veterans, college students, business owners, parents, immigrants, teenagers, disabled people, gay people, Republicans, Democrats, celebrities, politicians, people who didn’t vote for George Bush and people who didn’t vote for Barack Obama and everyone in between. There was no one description that fit every attendee.

Actually, there is one description that did fit everyone: sick and tired of the government stealing our hard earned money. We were all there because we love this country and we know what the Founding Fathers had in mind when they signed the Declaration of Independence. We were all there because we’re tired of Congress passing ridiculous laws that keep us from the freedoms promised to us in our Constitution. We were there because we’re ready to put this country back in the hands of those of who keep it running: American Citizens.


criticalpolitics.wordpress.com...


Or this...


Many Tea Party attendees weren't Republicans, however, and I proposed a resolution opposing a Bush policy that failed to get County Commission support (when Bush's approval rating was 60 percent).

The events are an indication that the era of the "angry white male" has been superseded. Women, young and older, were more prevalent and brassy in Bartow holding up signs like "Tea Has Value - Dump the Politicians," "Read my Lipstick, No New Taxes" and "Required Reading: the Constitution."

Subsequently, I attended a statewide meeting of groups partly responsible for the tea parties. Interestingly, almost half were independents and Libertarians, and a full half were 30- to 50-something women who are business owners.

A new era is dawning. It's being ushered in by "the everyday working woman" of various party affiliations, but all fighting for less government, more freedom and accountability.

RANDY WILKINSON

County Commissioner

Bartow


www.theledger.com...

I know that you will pooh-pooh this story. It is easier for you to live in a make-believe world where everything is black or white, Democrat or Republican, conservative or liberal.

The problem is, kiddo, that ain't life.

Face the facts. Obama isn't the Messiah any longer.



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 02:27 AM
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Originally posted by jsobecky
Next,, why weren't they held before the election? Simple. Because of the policies and decisions made after the election. Obama hasn't done one thing right yet. That fact, compounded by his lies and broken pledges, are the reasons his poll numbers are plummeting and the people are angry. They don't want increased gov't. They may admit that health care needs to be reformed, but they don't think that adding a huge bloated federal bureaucracy is the way to reform it.


Nope, nothing here that speaks partisan.


Call it partisan if it makes you feel better. No skin off my nose; my disgust with Obama the socialist is not something I hide. But accept it as the truth. Obama is nosediving in the polls faster than any previous president at this juncture of his term. Even libs and Democrats are abandoning him.

And if you think his numbers are bad now, just wait till he tries to push Cap and Trade and amnesty.



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 12:19 PM
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Just once I'd like to hear you (meaning any right leaning American) to say that even though you didn't vote for Obama, you hope he is successful. Otherwise you only sound like you are parroting Rush Limbaugh.

The fact is "kiddo", that Obama, being the one and only current president for the next three plus years, is the only one that has the ability to push to get something done in this country, because we know congress is incapable of getting anything done. We need health care reform as well as improving the economy. That is the reality. I know cap and trade is on the agenda, but until the economy turns around, it is and may remain on the back burner.

If you are watching the polls that closely hoping to see Obama's approval rating fall, while your at it, why don't you also watch the rising cost of health care an tell me which is more important.

Come on.

I know you can say it.

"I hope (* choke *) Obama (* gasp *) succeeds".

Was that so hard?


As far as your claim goes that people that attend the tea parties are non-partisan, I will admit that my only experience is limited to the area I live in, but it was anything but non-partisan.



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 12:24 PM
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I hope Obama fails completely.
Look at it as an opportunity for growth.
The American people are currently looking at the path Team Obama
wants us to go down.
A clear majority are saying "No."
All the union thugs in the world won't change that.
The sooner he fails. The sooner we can get Sarah Palin into
the oval office 2012. Make that January 20, 2013.
New hope and new change!


[edit on 4-9-2009 by Eurisko2012]



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 12:39 PM
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Wow, so tell us what you really think. May I suggest a med check?

If things were as bad as you imagine, then nobody would be supporting an agenda like that. Please use common sense.

I think it is alright to support Palin if you want, but I don't think she could ever run for POTUS after resigning. Her reasons for doing so are her own but I'm sure if she had the intention of ever running again, she would not have done it.



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 12:54 PM
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It's already a done deal.
Look at the unemployment rate today. 9.7% Unemployed
I can see the future. October 2009 10% Unemployed
November 2009 10.6% Unemployed
Team Obama is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
We are going down.
Wake up. Turn off MSNBC.



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 02:57 PM
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Ok JSO and Eurisko,

Just because you can't prove that people actually care for Palin and think she should be in the world of politics (and the invitations thing? Puhlease). Doesn't mean you have to use the classic deflection techniques and derail my thread into an Obama hate fest. The majority on this thread don't approve of Obama, so I really don't see the point.

It's time to see your messiah for what she really is, a has been, that should go away.

You 2 need to learn how to not ignore facts that conflict with your opinion, this forum is about denying ignorance. Am I right?

like this.
and this.



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posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by jsobecky
Face the facts. Obama isn't the Messiah any longer.


Oh the irony.


Have you even been reading your own post about Palin.


Some people are down on their knees giving blood sacrifices to that woman.

Guys you wouldn't believe it but some people think that Americans actually like Palin.
It makes me lol.



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 03:39 PM
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Guys you wouldn't believe it but some people think that Americans actually like Palin. It makes me lol.


Once again, you're hooked up on some kind of popularity contest. Most of us outgrew that in high school.

Your 'polls' mean nothing. She has the right to freedom of expression regardless of how many or few people want to hear her speak.

So why do you continue to bring up 'popularity polls' as some kind of measure of who should have rights in our nation?

Who the frig are *you* to determine what she should do with her life??

If you don't like what she says, don't listen to her. But the funny thing is, you will be hanging on her every word.


That is what scares you.



posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by jsobecky

So why do you continue to bring up 'popularity polls' as some kind of measure of who should have rights in our nation?

That is what scares you.



Way to go for putting words in my mouth.




Show me those polls, please. She has over 1,000 speaking engagements lined up. Are you trying to tell me they are all Republicans that want to hear her?


You're the one who asked right?




As far as her new found popularity, the fact that she has over 1,070 speaking invitations speaks for itself.


And then you started talking about some kind of 'new found popularity'? Like I said can you back that up?
You tell me that I can't use polls? But your going to use 1,070 invitations as a validation of her so-called popularity, sounds like someone else has some growing up to do.




Everybody is worried about her chances at being elected POTUS.


I was also replying to this, now tell me how much of a chance she has at being president?

So don't get your panties in a wad. You asked for the polls, and you talked as if she had some kind of popularity because OOHHH AHH she has 1000 invitations, you wouldn't have asked for them if you thought that they didn't matter, but you did, and I gave them.

But you will probably ignore this, I mean you did ignore the post in where I said that the polls did matter, I think it's because you didn't want to acknowledge people don't actually like Palin. But i'm glad to see you have came to your senses and realized your messiah isn't really liked that much.

And even though you will ignore this part of my post to because you have a habit of only replying to certain parts of my posts and certain post. What's with the deflection, anytime I have said something true about Palin you don't like you bring Obama up? Well if Obama does it to or something similiar that makes it alright? I thought you loathed Obama?

Go ahead run along to your next Palin thread and defend her every action and move with a vengence.


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posted on Sep, 4 2009 @ 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by Hal9000
reply to post by jsobecky
 

Just once I'd like to hear you (meaning any right leaning American) to say that even though you didn't vote for Obama, you hope he is successful. Otherwise you only sound like you are parroting Rush Limbaugh.


Not gonna happen. It would be dishonest, I *do* hope he fails, so that America can succeed.

I don't care who I sound like either, so the RL thing doesn't work on me.



The fact is "kiddo", that Obama, being the one and only current president for the next three plus years, is the only one that has the ability to push to get something done in this country, because we know congress is incapable of getting anything done.


And that is the troublesome part. He has done so many things wrong since being elected, that the country is in worse shape than ever, with no relief in sight.


We need health care reform as well as improving the economy. That is the reality. I know cap and trade is on the agenda, but until the economy turns around, it is and may remain on the back burner.


And after his version of 'reform' fails, it will be that much easier to destroy Cap and Trade (which has already passed the House, btw).


If you are watching the polls that closely hoping to see Obama's approval rating fall, while your at it, why don't you also watch the rising cost of health care an tell me which is more important.


I don't really give a crap about his falling numbers. They're just icing on the cake. I'm much more interested in seeing his socialistic policies fail.



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