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Originally posted by whaaa
Metals now is a sellers market. Good luck trying to find someone to buy if you need to cash in and if you do, Expect all kind of BS penalities and way below spot.
gold and silver is fine and good, but if there is no food to buy you are done for.
Passage of the FSEA into law would amend the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act (FFDCA). The bill proposes a substantial increase in power and resources for the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and would significantly diminish existing judicial restraints on actions taken by the agency. Although the bill includes some provisions that could improve the mainstream food system, many of these are vaguely worded and do not clearly define the scope of the agency’s power, creating the potential for inappropriate application and enforcement. Small farms and local artisanal producers are part of the solution to the food safety problem in this country; the bill would impose on them a one-size-fits-all regulatory scheme and would disproportionately impact their operations for the worse. www.ftcldf.org...
Cow Shares, Herd Shares, Farm Shares
In states where dairy regulations forbid consumers their constitutional right to purchase raw milk in stores or directly from farmers, consumers are entering into share agreements with the farmer.
In a cow share or herd share agreement, consumers pay a farmer a fee for boarding their cow, (or share of a cow), caring for the cow and milking the cow. The cow share owner then obtains (but does not purchase) the milk from his own cow. This arrangement is similar to arrangements of owning a share in a racehorse or a bull.
Some states, such as Wisconsin, actually forbid cow share agreements (which represents a further abridgement of our constitutional rights.) In these states, consumers and farmers have set up corporations in which consumers hold non-voting shares. This permits the consumer to obtain raw milk and other products from the farm in which he shares ownership (a farm share). It is more difficult and more expensive to set up a farm share program than a cow or herd share program, but this arrangement has the advantage of providing the farmer with more protection.
The Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund is a 501 (c) (4) non-profit organization made up of farmers and consumers joining together and pooling resources to:
• Protect the constitutional right of the nation’s family farms to provide processed and unprocessed farm foods directly to consumers through any legal means.
• Protect the constitutional right of consumers to obtain unprocessed and processed farm foods directly from family farms.
• Protect the nation’s family farms from harassment by federal, state, and local government interference with food production and on-farm food processing.
This is a recent BBC report on something that is becoming commonplace, the Ukrainians resent it and are calling it a return to the Feudal system.
Resistance to such changes is deeply entrenched. They will come about not through the embrace of full blown world government, but as a careful and pragmatic response to compelling imperatives and the inadequacies of alternatives."
"The concept of national sovereignty has been an immutable, indeed sacred, principle of international relations. It is a principle which will yield only slowly and reluctantly to the new imperatives of global environmental cooperation. What is needed is recognition of the reality that in so many fields, and this is particularly true of environmental issues, it is simply not feasible for sovereignty to be exercised unilaterally by individual nation-states, however powerful. The global community must be assured of environmental security."
Originally posted by pixanomaly
reply to post by Rigel Kent
I would like to understand more and will start with a practical discussion and hope you can share your thoughts.
+Is your main driver to hoard Gold the fact that you believe the economy is going to tank?
+Are you already heavily vested in Gold?
+If so do you hold the Gold physically in your possession?
+If the dollar collapses and you have a Hyperinflation scenario how would you go about purchasing your daily needs and how would you exchange your 500g bar of Gold (to use your example)?
+Do you believe you would get a fair exchange rate for your Gold in a crisis?
+How would you protect your Gold at home and in transit?
+If you were going to leave for another country by which means would you do so using Gold?
+If everyone suddenly needed to exchange their Gold for consumables how would that affect the price of Gold?
Now the philosophical
+If you had all the money you could ever want what would you do right now?
+If demand drives the price of Gold does scaremongering help drive the price higher?
+At which point would it be prudent to divest from Gold for those with a major holding, when demand is on the up or when everyone is trying to exchange it for real items, and what do you believe people do when they divest from Gold?
+Could you foresee the government imposing a Gold tax if there were no other means to obtain funds from the people?
Just to give you some perspective - I visited an Eastern European village where in times of war generosity to others whether sharing/exchanging goods lending a hand got them through it and made bonds that stand to this day. Not that I was around but the same happened here in the UK during WW2.
But I have to concede that if a bar of Gold fell into my lap without causing injury :-) I wouldn't complain and would exchange it for a better self sufficient life immediately. I just dont think I would be happy if I was stuck with it in the scenario presented "Global Meltdown" or the alternate scenario where it reminded me that it constituted a loss because I bought what other people were trying to offload.