"Democracy is Dead, Lobbyists Rule America" - Marketwatch article!

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posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 09:16 PM
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Democracy is dead ... lobbyists rule America
16-point manifesto for the new 'Lobbyist Nation of America'
By Paul B. Farrell, MarketWatch

Sinking sensation ... democracy is rigged Still, we feel it. As Frank Rich put it in the New York Times: "What disturbs Americans of all ideological persuasions is the fear that almost everything, not just government, is fixed or manipulated by some powerful hidden hand."

This pervasive public "mood isn't just about the banks, Public Enemy No. 1. What the Great Recession has crystallized is a larger syndrome that Obama tapped into during the campaign. It's the sinking sensation that the American game is rigged, that, as the president typically put it a month after his inauguration, the system is in hock to 'the interests of powerful lobbyists or the wealthiest few' who have 'run Washington far too long.' He promised to smite them."

He can't. Why? Because like the rest of us, he's controlled by the new "Lobbyists Nation of America." Obama's now inside this "Happy Conspiracy," working with lobbyists like Daschle, all aggressively competing for their slice of a $9 trillion pie for rich clients ... as taxpayers sail the good ship "American Titanic Deficits" into a huge iceberg, dead ahead.


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posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 10:01 PM
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Absolutely worthy of attention. For those looking for another teaser..., here's the closing gem from this article:


Manifesto: 'Lobbyists Nation of America' 16 Principles

1. Lobbyists destined to fill a void left by democracy's failings. Voters are irrational, cannot be trusted to act without guidance from lobbyists.

2. Lobbyists are the new behavioral nudgers guiding America. Forget behavioral scientists, special interest lobbyists will do the real nudging.

3. Lobbyists must nudge voters to elect "friendly" politicians. Lobbyists must invest millions to elect officials favorable to special interests.

4. Lobbyists are the new "unseen hand" of American Capitalism. Capitalism's new "unseen hand" is the enlightened deals of 261,000 lobbyists

5. Lobbyists will guide economic recovery for special interests. Congress, the president and regulators all have a price, find it and pay it.

6. Lobbyists protect special interests using taxpayer money. The wealthy will have ready access to the assets and credits of the Treasury.

7. Lobbyists amass extra capital anticipating a new meltdown. Plan ahead for the next recession by stockpiling benefits for your clients.

8. Lobbyists hire new blood directly from inside government. The contacts of senators and congressmen are worth millions to clients.

9. Lobbyists reward politicians, treat them like co-lobbyists. Everyone in Washington wants to get rich off big government, help them

10. Lobbyists must defeat programs unfavorable to clients. Programs that weaken the power of the rich must be aggressively defeated.

11. Lobbyist clients' interests come before public interest. Principles of fiduciary duty mean clients take precedence over public needs.

12. Lobbyists must defeat or gut financial literacy programs. Intelligent, informed investors undercut special interests; Kill the CFPA.

13. Lobbyists give traders access to commercial bank assets. Investment banks switched to get access to deposits for high-risk trading.

14. Lobbyists never help mortgagees and credit-card holders. Helping failing homeowners and card holders means less for bank insiders.

15. Lobbyists want cap-and-trade derivatives for a new bull market. America needs a new bubble, new bull -- global warming trades will do trick.

16. Lobbyists must reward the rich, eliminate the "death tax." Eliminating inheritance taxes assures continuity of wealthy gene pools.


Oh yeah..., I'm feeling the love...



posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 11:42 PM
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If you let them get away with it, you let them get away with it.

What are the people to do?

Perhaps, TPTB have been 'mislead' and need another to spell it out to them.

I have done just that as others here on ATS.

TPTB have 'feelers' on this site as others.

They are aware.

They would be wise to carefully examine their next move.

The Golden Rule is burned in stone for a Reason.



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 12:12 AM
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usa isn't a republic anymore?



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 12:35 AM
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So how can we change this? How can we ban the negative effects of lobbyists backed by big dollars of special interests while still allowing for Individual Americans to make their voices heard?



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 12:53 AM
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So what do we do? The views most everyone in this Country share are being more freely discussed, mistrust in the Government is spreading. What options are there? What serious options? Who is to blame for this? The Corporations that these lobbyists work for? The very same Corporations we work for and support when we spend our money on the products/services they produce?

The line in the sand is not easily found is it? This is a complicated issue finding out where things seem to be going wrong and who or what is to blame. I see foolish threads on many message boards talking about revolution and how to shoot effectively. To this I ask; Who is the target, who is the enemy? Whom do we know in our lives that is not in some way either working for a Bank, a University, or in the smallest way working for or spending money in the betterment of the industries that sign the paycheck of all these lobbyists.

So what do we do?



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 01:16 AM
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Democracy stinks it is essential to communism. Death to democracy, long live the republic! The "United States Government" is not a "government" of the people, it is a private corporation HQd in Washington DC and owned by the Vatican. It filed bankruptcy in the 1930s and uses the "citizens" as collateral for debt via the birth certificate. Lobbyist is just another angle of misdirection.



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 02:08 AM
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Originally posted by HunkaHunka
So how can we change this? How can we ban the negative effects of lobbyists backed by big dollars of special interests while still allowing for Individual Americans to make their voices heard?




Effecting change means determining what is the best path from where we are to where we want to be.

How is this done?

I don't know, for lack of a better solution I must turn to the Founding Fathers who thought we would need a revolution every 20 years to throw the bums out... I would suggest that the states secede from the corruption doing business as The Federal Government.

I would pray that a majority of the military would honor their oaths to protect the constitution.

I would hope that we might then form a more perfect union.

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I use one yardstick to determine whether I am dealing with friend or foe.
Only one.

Do they LIE?

If a man will tell you what he really thinks one can then discuss any situation of mutual concern using REASON. And if the discussion is held with the express intent to determine what the truth is, more truth will be found and they will never come to blows.

That unconstitutional machinery of deception and manipulation doing business under color of law as the US federal Government routinely LIES to "We the people".

I would seek and support any Government that told only "the truth and the whole truth, so help me G-d."











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posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 03:21 AM
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I think it's much further than America corporations are now able to bribe pretty much anyone in government around the whole planet. They have more influence than the voters and pretty much every new laws benefits them over us.

Unfortunately the problem is now so deep it's completely accepted and more and more of these new patents and laws pretty much guarantee none of us will ever be able to challenge any of them.

I feel there is no solution even if a country did get an incorruptible Government the second it started cutting into someone's profit margins the rest of the world would just overthrow it.



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 06:52 AM
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This thread couldnt be more true. Its a Serious, Serious problem this country has. This country needs to get more outspoken and serious when it comes to our Representatives cheating on us. This is just as bad as a high ranking government Rep selling our technology to our enemies .
Greedy crooked bastards. Run for office! All of you, thats the only way.



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 07:28 AM
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Wow. some one that really gets it. That is one of the best posts I have read in awhile.

I have not read the link yet, but it's they way it is suppose to be. That my friend is sticking to that plan. Look at where we are because the progressives took over the education system.



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 08:15 AM
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I posted this on my facebook and below is my friend's comment on the article. I have the same questions that he does.


While certainly everything he has said about "democracy" being dead and the government being essentially run by lobbyists is true to an extent, I still don't understand the crux of the article. Is he trying to say that attempts for the majority of Americans to regain power are futile, and that we should just accept total government-corporate ... Read Morecontrol aka fascism? Or is he admitting that the idea of a magically rational invisible hand that controls the "free" market is utter bull****? I'm not usually one to quote Lenin, but he said it first:

"Fascism is capitalism in decay."

[edit on 3-9-2009 by edgecrusher2199]



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 08:19 AM
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If only I could post what I would truly like to do. But, I can't and for a multitude of reasons. Suffice it to say that this is just one more straw on the proverbial camel's back.

Revolutions come in many forms. I know many don't like Titor's predicitions to come up, but this concept of Civil War happening again in our time is becomming more of a reality every day.

The greed of man (thanks Clifford Stone) is behind all of this. Power & money, the two most powerful corruptables are the essence of all greed.

Free energy isn't released because it levels the playing field. Who can regulate it? No money to be made if widely available. Therefore, withold and keep us dependent on fossil fuels. And our government surely would not want to see a third world nation start to thrive because of it.

Competition is good as long as we control the competition.



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 08:23 AM
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Originally posted by ReelView
Democracy stinks it is essential to communism. Death to democracy, long live the republic! The "United States Government" is not a "government" of the people, it is a private corporation HQd in Washington DC and owned by the Vatican. It filed bankruptcy in the 1930s and uses the "citizens" as collateral for debt via the birth certificate. Lobbyist is just another angle of misdirection.

Democracy is when people are in control over policy, which is carried out by citizens voting to approve or not approve a new law. Power is in the people's hands.

Communism is a socialistic government (or society), which imposes their power onto the people. Everything you eat, wear, see, and hear is regulated by the government.

What we are looking at is neither democracy or communism. Our government along with many of the elite are committing treason.

Declaration of the thirteen united States of America
www.ushistory.org...

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.


We need to find is a way to hold the government and those lobbyists accountable for their actions. Since our President, Senate, House of Representatives, and Judges can be paid off by lobbyists, we are confronted with an conundrum. Everyone from you local government up to and including the Executive branch is corrupt. They have enough money to buy lawyers and judges.

Sounds like a mafia government to me for some reason.

Everyone has presented an interesting conundrum.



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 08:26 AM
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We must collectively "opt out" of the rigged system!

Imagine the backlash if NOBODY went to work for a couple of days! Or, NOBODY bought gas for a couple of days!

Imagine the power that a Nationwide boycott of any one corporation would have!! It wouldn't take decades or years or even months to make the change. It would only take a few days for the system to collapse!

Run on the banks? Tax paying Hiatus? What if everybody refused to pay a Credit Card or Utility Bill!!

What if we only bought groceries from somebody we knew and trusted? Forget the monstrous chains, and just go to a market, get to know the people there, and buy your local stuff! If something is out of season, don't go buy the genetically modified, imported from another continent version, just choose a different meal that is in season!! Not only will you support your local community and people, you will probably be WAY healthier to boot!!

WE THE PEOPLE can make this change, but the system is set up to smack down any loan dissenter; we have to do this together!



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 08:41 AM
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Welcome to the wonderfull world of American politics.

When an American president is elected, he is in debt towards all the generous industrial/financial investors who sponsored his campaign.

How can you believe that such a president, and thus such a government, is able to take decisions without being influenced by the private interests of the industrial and financial world ?

I never understood how the American people accept this ? In my country it is called corruption. You give a political leader money "to help him for his campaign", and you hope that this leader won't forget you once he is in charge...

How did you come to such an obviously corrupted electoral system ?

We also have lobbyists in Europe of course, but their possibilities of action are not as easy as in the U.S.



Edit : To be more precise, in Belgium, political candidates are allowed to accept sponsoring from individuals, but receiving money from any company is strictly forbidden. It seems so normal to me that I cannot understand how you trust your political leaders when they are so full of big companies money. They are so corrupted you cannot imagine.



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posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 09:23 AM
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Well you have pretty much hit the nail on the head, Our system is simply badly flawed. Being from the State of Illinois I see this corruption all the time. You try and vote in someone who is above the corruption and then two months later they are part of the problem and why? simply because the political rot is invasive. People relish power and the old boys clubs have a death grip on to many positions of power.

The people of America need to find our commonality again and squash all those who are seeking to divide us.



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 09:24 AM
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My solution is to not contribute to such controls. Becoming self-sufficient, not relying on a city, but merely the community around, local gardens, and butchers in small rural areas.

All my drinking water is from reverse osmosis, organic veggies, and meat from a butcher, whose product comes from his own local farms.

I personally am out of the picture... besides taxes I pay by working in town.
I am working towards self-sufficiency completely; but it may take a couple years.

If everyone became self-aware, and capable, without relying on convenience; this world would be far more... rich with personality and pride, rather than money and greed.



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 09:24 AM
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Very good post S + F.

I think to stop these Lobbyists there would need to be a complete ban on Politicians accepting money from anyone.

Instead if people want to they can donate to a unilateral fund for the elections, which can be used for debates + makes sure people don't win solely because they raise the most money. Making all candidates equal would stop special interest promoters being elected so easily.



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by HunkaHunka
So how can we change this? How can we ban the negative effects of lobbyists backed by big dollars of special interests while still allowing for Individual Americans to make their voices heard?




NATIONAL STRIKE.

Don't give .gov or the greedy corporations any more money to use against us.

They want us as peasants on the land, let's live like peasants and make everything we need for ourselves.

Make our own food, electricity, clothing, transport.

After about 6 months to a year, something would have to break.





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