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Vitamin Ban Beginning December 31 2009

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posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 05:02 PM
If you care about your health this post is for you. I found this information on a medical website. Normally i have the persons name who wrote it but it seems this has no name but all the same it is full of information. Let me know what you think on this and if its worth more digging.

Some Codex standards that will take effect on December 31, 2009 and once
initiated are completely irrevocable include [2]:
* All nutrients (vitamins and minerals) are to be considered toxins/poisons
and are to be removed from all food because Codex prohibits the use of nutrients
to prevent, treat or cure any condition or disease* All food (including organic) is to be irradiated, removing all toxic
nutrients from food (unless eaten locally and raw).

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Thats the whole of it that i have at this time.

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posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 05:05 PM
Impossible. You cannot take all the nutrients out of plants. The plants cant survive without them.

posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 05:16 PM
That claim is just so out there, I can't even begin to start to believe it. I call shenanigans. The most bizarre of the claims, their sorce links don't even exist, and they don't link to the actual documents they're found in - except for the ones that don't actually exist.

posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 05:16 PM
reply to post by Red Dawn 09

I believe that this is a response to the fact that their hoax bird flu vaccine is not going the way they planned. People are fighting back and taking power back so I'm sure that they are trying this route because this makes it harder for people to fight against.

However, it's my prayer that we fight even harder, but if this is indeed what they intend to do, than we have to get this information out there and unite against this tyranny of genocide.

I'm sure more will surface if this is indeed what they are planning on doing. For now there appears to be little information but if so, more will be coming that is for sure.

A good link:

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posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 05:20 PM
Dr. Gregory Damato, Ph.D.

Well found the name and thanks to mods for finding the site. They are planning on taxing or controling everything under the sun and if they can the sun itself so i have no doubt they can and will if we dont put a stop to it.

posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 05:30 PM
Sounds like it might be time for anyone and everyone that enjoys their fruits and veggies to start what they can of indoor green houses.

Leave it to Monsanto to try to poison everyone yet again. As if their soy beans dipped in round up (ok not really dipped but grown in ground saturated with round up) wasn't enough. The GMO cows and chickens, I thought was to much. I guess this would be the next "logical" step in their eyes. Not all of us are hooked on the diets of MSG this that and the other, or the framaldahyde tweenkies. Gotta try and hit all of us with their poison so our minds shut down and they have more little slaves to sheer in those camps.

Thanks for finding that info Red Dawn...I'm gonna start a garden in my closet now I think.

posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 05:34 PM
This has gotta be a hoax. Imagine how many stores would collapse and fold up if they eliminated thier vitamin section? aint gunna happen

posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 05:38 PM
reply to post by ziggy1706

Have you been to the store and priced vitamins lately? The prices have jumped ALOT and i dont see them going down like gasoline.

posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 05:46 PM
There are already other countries where you cannot get basic vitamins without a prescription. These types of controls are a part on a quiet yet continuous expansion of control over the worlds food supplies. The day will come when he food companies are not allowed to add vitamins to a breakfast cereal but it will still be produced with corn syrup, by products and chemicals.

Read up on codex alimentarius. It is real and being quietly and continuously worked into legislation on every part of the planet.

Total control of the food supply....coming soon to a kitchen near you.

posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 05:50 PM

Originally posted by ziggy1706
This has gotta be a hoax. Imagine how many stores would collapse and fold up if they eliminated thier vitamin section? aint gunna happen

This is part of Codex Alimentarius, and this has been known for a few years.

Big Pharma actually wants these stores to collapse because they don't hold the patents on vitamins and all sorts of herbal remedies, so they aren't making any money of of it.

Also, they know vitamins and herbs are very effective at keeping people healthy, and they need sick people to sell their pharmaceuticals to.

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posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 05:54 PM
I have heard about this before, and it confuses me... not that I don't believe that TPTB would do something like this, but a few things don't make sense...

What would this mean for all Backyard growers? surely that would then mean growing your own fruit and veg would be illegal? How would they enforce this? Hear in the UK you are lucky if the police respond in 24hours to a burglary, so where are they going to find people to check everyones back garden to make sure they are not growing fresh veg?

Also.. a lot of people eat organic, so whats going to happen when suddenly everything organics pulled off the shelves, surely people are going to notice this? There would be an outcry!!

Also, at the moment in the Uk there is a big anti- obesity thing going on, we are being educated (well, all those that want to learn) about eating a balanced diet, what our RDA of certain foods are. Even in that article it showed what the recommended dose of certain vitamins per day, and I'm sure anyone could google it and find out, so surely people are going to notice this??? And health food shops and businesses, what are they just going to be made to close down?

Sorry If I sound naive but I don't think even they could pull this off. The media would pick up on it (ok, I know MSM is controlled by the governments but they would still have to report on it if it was a new law coming in surely)

And its not like the MPs and elite obtain ALL their food from 'special' sources most of them will still shop at upmarket shops like marks and spencer or waitrose, and these shops anyone can shop at, so they wouldn't be eating the same food as the rest of us if it was going to kill them would they?

Please someone explain how this is going to work because I don't understand!

posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 05:56 PM
Apparently rumors of this have been going around for years.

Of course, just because they didn't do it then doesn't mean that they wont do it now, but I'm not buying it.

No offense to the OP though. I don't even pretend to know everything and I could be wrong.

posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 06:02 PM
The official Codex Alimentarius site;

Very vague, last time I checked.

posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 06:06 PM

Originally posted by Red Dawn 09
Dr. Gregory Damato, Ph.D.

Well found the name and thanks to mods for finding the site. They are planning on taxing or controling everything under the sun and if they can the sun itself so i have no doubt they can and will if we dont put a stop to it.

They are targeting the sun itself when they include vitamin D (the "sunshine vitamin"), in high doses onto their ban list. If this is true, it's funny how they are doing it now when H1N1 is anticipated to mutate into a more deadly strain.

Just a few days ago I caught the tail end of a weather programme on BBC 24, this presenter was really going on about how people should use sunscreen. I'm in Britain, we get little enough vitamin D production due to lack of sunshine. Now that more people are catching on to the fact that Vit D in high doses may help prevent pneumonia/citokine storm. And any summer we had is now well and truly over!

To be honest, I was never overly paranoid about TPTB, but things are really looking stinky now.

Well looks like it won't be long before Essential Oils are banned too, cause they are highly antiviral, antibacterial and help boost the immune system.

S&F for this find, I will be keeping an eye on this thread.

posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 06:40 PM
reply to post by Red Dawn 09

Sorry, but I have a hard time believing this. I'm a pharmacist, and if this were true, all of us in the healthcare industry, especially pharmacists, would have been informed of this MAJOR pharmacy change that is supposedly coming soon. We would have been been given lots of legal information from our boards of pharmacy and from the FDA. So far, nothing.

If you can show me some official information from the FDA or from the boards of pharmacy, I'll believe it. But if not, I just don't see how it would happen.

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posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 06:44 PM
this is complete bull...i dont allow to believe this :p

posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 08:23 PM
reply to post by nikiano

beings that you asked for more info on this i shall post more here.

by: Barbara L. Minton,
NaturalNews) Your right to eat healthy food and use supplements of your choice is rapidly vanishing, but every effort has been made to keep you in the dark about the coming nutricide. Codex Alimentarius is scheduled for full global implementation on December 31, 2009, and not a word has been spoken in main stream media about this threat to humanity. Yet, according to the projections based on figures from the World Health Organization (WHO) and the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), a minimum of 3 billion people will die from the Codex mandated vitamin and mineral guideline alone.

Former Nazi is father of contemporary Codex

Codex is the enemy of everyone except those who will profit from it. Codex has an association with those who committed crimes during the Nazi regime. At the end of World War II, the Nuremberg tribunal judged Nazis who had committed horrendous crimes against humanity and sentenced them to prison terms. One of those found guilty was the president of the megalithic corporation I.G. Farben, Hermann Schmitz. His company was the largest chemical manufacturing enterprise in the world, and had extraordinary political and economic power and influence with the Hitlerian Nazi state. Farben produced the gas used in the Nazi gas chambers, and the steel for the railroads built to transport people to their deaths.

While serving his prison term, Schmitz looked for an alternative to brute force for controlling people and realized that people could be controlled through their food supply. When he got out of prison, he went to his friends at the United Nations (UN) and laid out a plan to take over the control of food worldwide. A trade commission called Codex Alimentarius (Latin for food code) was re-created under the guise of it being a consumer protection commission. But Codex was never in the business of protecting people. It has always been about money and profits at the expense of people.

In 1962, the timetable was set for Codex to be fully implemented on a global level by December 31, 2009. Under Codex, committees were established to create guidelines on such topics as fish and fisheries, fats and oils, fruits and vegetables, ground nuts, nutrition, food for specialized uses, and vitamins and minerals. There were 27 committees in all, creating a huge bureaucracy. Under Codex there are over 4,000 guidelines and regulations on everything that can be put into your mouth with the exception of pharmaceuticals which are not regulated by Codex.

Codex is a weapon being used to reduce the level of nutrition worldwide

Codex is an industry dominated regulation setting organization, and as such has no legal standing. Participation in Codex is said to be voluntary. But Codex has risen to the level of de facto legal standing because Codex is administered by the WHO and FAO. They fund it and run it at the request of the UN. Since the WHO and FAO are supposed to be about health, there is conflict of interest. The committees of Codex work up guidelines, rules and regulations, and present them to a Codex commission for ratification. Once they are ratified and approved by consensus, they become mandatory standards for any country that is a member of the WHO.

Codex was accepted when the WTO was formed in 1994 as a means of harmonizing food standards globally for easy trade between countries. As a result, countries must harmonize with Codex if they want to have any standing in a trade dispute. When disputes arise and countries are pulled in to WTO, the one that is Codex compliant automatically wins, regardless of the merits of its case.

Codex has become a weapon to make every nation scurry to become compliant to its mandated decline in nutritional standards. Compliance in the U.S. will mark the end of its consumer protection laws. Codex will not serve consumers. Codex will serve the interests of the medical, pharmaceutical, biotechnology, chemical, and big agricultural industries.

Under Codex, nutrients are classified as poisons

The Dietary Substances Health and Education Act (DSHEA), was signed into law in 1994 for the purpose of ensuring that safe and appropriately labeled products would remain available to those who wanted to use them. In the findings associated with this law, Congress stated that there may be a positive relationship between sound dietary practice and good health, and a connection between dietary supplement use, reduced health-care expenses, and disease prevention. Under DSHEA, nutrients and herbs are classified as food. There is no upper limit set, and access is freely given. Americans are allowed to have any nutrients they want, because under English common law, anything that is not expressly forbidden is permitted.

Codex, on the other hand, is based on Napoleonic law and is much more restrictive. In 1994, the same year DSHEA was signed, Codex had nutrients declared to be toxic and poisonous. And as poisons, they claimed people must be protected from them through the use of toxicology and risk assessment, under which scientists test small doses on animals until they are able to discern an impact. They then take the first sign of the most minimal impact and divide this amount by 100 to establish a safety margin required from these poisons. This means that the largest dose of any nutrient allowed under Codex is 1/100th of the amount shown to produce the first discernable impact.

Nutrients allowed under Codex are limited to those on the positive list, expected to contain only 18 nutrients, one of them being fluoride. Although fluoride has no biological benefit whatsoever, it does make people complacent.

The Codex proponents now have several bills before Congress designed to overturn and get rid of DSHEA. Once this is accomplished, the U.S. will have been harmonized with the vitamin and mineral guidelines of codex. High potency, therapeutically effective, significant nutrients will then be illegal in the way that heroin is illegal. They will not even be available by prescription.

Codex supports toxic food additives, pesticides and GM foods

Codex poses a significant threat to the food supply, according to Dr. Robert Verkerk, founder and director of the Alliance for Natural Health. About 300 dangerous food additives that are mainly synthetic will be allowed under Codex, including aspartame, BHA, BHT, potassium bromate, tartrazine, and more. Dr. Verkerk is particularly concerned that no consideration has been given to potential risks associated with long-term exposure to mixtures of additives.

Codex sets limits for the dangerous industrial chemicals that can be used in food, but they are incredibly high, and the list of chemicals that can be used is long. In 2001, 176 countries including the U.S. got together and decided that 12 highly toxic organic chemicals, known as persistent organic pollutants (POPS), were so bad that they had to be banned. There are many more than 12 toxic chemicals used on food, but these 12 were unanimously declared to be the worst. Of these, 9 are pesticides.

Under Codex, 7 of the 9 forbidden POPS will again be allowed in the production of food. All together, Codex allows over 3,275 different pesticides, including those that are suspected carcinogens or endocrine disrupters. There is no consideration of the long-term effects of exposure to mixtures of pesticide residues in food.

Organic food governance will be dumbed down to suit the interests of large food producers. Various synthetic chemical additives and processing aids will be allowed, and food labeled as organic may be irradiated. Labeling will permit the use of hidden, non-organic ingredients.

Monsanto, a member of Codex, will benefit greatly as production of genetically modified (GM) foods are stepped up and more GM plants are given the green light. Terminator seeds will be approved for international trade. GM food animals will also be on the way.

Under Codex, every dairy animal can be treated with growth hormone, and all animals in the food chain will be treated with sub-clinical levels of antibiotics. Codex will lead to the required irradiation of all foods with the exception of those grown locally and sold raw.

Codex is food regulations that are in fact the legalization of mandated toxicity and under-nutrition. Of the 3 billion people initially expected to die as the result of the Codex vitamin and mineral guidelines, 2 billion of them will die from the preventable diseases that result from under-nutrition, such as cancer, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and many others. Those who will live will be the wealthy elites who are able to somehow provide themselves with sources of clean food and other nutrients.

Codex is legalized genocide

Dr. Gregory Damato, Ph.D., writing for Natural News, has characterized Codex as "population control for money". He sees Codex as run by the U.S. and controlled by the big pharmaceutical corporations and the likes of Monsanto with the purpose of reducing the population of the world to a level considered sustainable by those promulgating the New World Order. This would mean a reduction of approximately 93 percent of the current world population.

Once Codex standards are adopted there will be no turning back. When Codex compliance is instigated in any area, as long as the country remains a member of the WTO, those standards cannot be repealed, or altered in any way.

The time for modifying Codex guidelines is rapidly disappearing

Some hope remains. Over the years, the WTO has accepted Codex standards as presumptive evidence of the rules of trade between countries. However, several times in history, the WTO has refused to make Codex the single and only standard to be used in trade disputes. Under Codex`s own statutes, their guidelines are claimed to be "advisory", and nations are able to set up their own guidelines as long as they are more restrictive than those of Codex.

Since compliance with Codex standards is simply presumptive evidence, and not finally determinative, a nation can opt out of the guidelines in an effort to protect its traditional foods and remedies. The Codex two step process is a legal strategy developed to help nations wanting to do this. Under step one, the country develops its own food and health guidelines that may be at variance with Codex guidelines. For example, it may be much stricter on the issues of toxins in the food supply or on the issue of genetically modified foods. It may require, for example, that companies using GM ingredients be required to indicate them on food labels. In countries that refuse to use GM foods, this can be indicated on their label too, so that people can make informed choices. The second step is to adopt a national law that implements those guidelines on a sound scientific basis.

Normally, in a trade dispute before the WTO, the country that has adopted Codex guidelines will be the winner of that dispute based on those guidelines being presumptive evidence. However, when countries have gone through the two step process to create their own guidelines, there is no such presumption, and the WTO will look at the science behind the guidelines.

In the U.S. the door is open to Codex

In 1995, the FDA issued a policy statement saying that international standards such as Codex would supersede U.S. laws governing all food. Under the Central American Free Trade Agreement, which is illegal under current U.S. law, but is legal under international law, the U.S. is required to conform to Codex as it stands on December 31, 2009, unless it creates its own guidelines and gets them approved under the two step process. Given current government sentiment, this seems unlikely. Besides, as guidelines are one-by-one chiseled into standards, time is running out.

posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 09:36 PM
reply to post by Red Dawn 09

Here’s the Codex:
Can you please quote the sections that proves “Codex supports toxic food additives, pesticides and GM foods”
I can't seem to find it.

From the Codex newsletter on vitamins:

What work has Codex undertaken on vitamin and mineral supplements?

In the early 1990s, the Codex Committee on Nutrition and Foods for Special Dietary Uses (CCNFSDU) began discussions on guidelines for vitamin and mineral supplements.
This Committee is responsible for studying nutritional issues referred by the Codex Alimentarius Commission; drafting provisions, as appropriate, on the nutritional aspects of all
foods; and developing standards, guidelines, or related texts for foods for special dietary uses. The Guidelines were adopted in 2005. The Guidelines apply only to supplements that contain vitamins and/or minerals, where these products are regulated as foods. The Guidelines
address the composition of vitamin and mineral supplements, including the safety, purity, and bioavailability of the sources of vitamins and minerals. The Guidelines do not specify upper
limits for vitamins and minerals in supplements. Instead, they provide criteria for establishing maximum amounts of vitamins and minerals per daily portion of supplement consumed,
as recommended by the manufacturer. The criteria specify that maximum amounts should be established by scientific risk assessment based on generally accepted scientific data
and taking into consideration, as appropriate, the varying degrees of sensitivity of different consumer groups.

The Guidelines also address the packaging and labelling of vitamin and mineral supplements.
We encourage you to read the complete text of the Guidelines at

Will Codex make all nutritional supplements only available by prescription? Will Codex ban all supplements and make vitamins illegal the same way heroin is illegal? Will all natural herbs and alternative remedies be banned by Codex?

These are some of the many unfounded rumours about Codex that can be found on the internet. The Guidelines for Vitamin and Mineral Food Supplements (CAC/GL 55-2005) adopted in 2005
do not contain provisions for the prescription or prohibition of any nutrient supplements. They do not deal with natural herbs and remedies at all.

Why are there so many rumours about Codex on the internet? Where do they come from?

These rumours started some years back when one of Codex Committees began work on guidelines for vitamin and mineral supplements. They appear to be linked to advocacy groups who wrongly believe that Codex is a threat to freedom of choice especially concerning
vitamin and mineral supplements. These rumours are self-reproducing through chain email messages and other low-cost means of communication.

I have heard that the Codex will become law on 31st December 2009. Is it true?

This is an unfounded rumour: The standards, guidelines and codes adopted by the Codex Alimentarius Commission are voluntary and do not therefore contain implementation
deadlines or dates, nor can the Commission turn them into binding law.

posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 10:05 PM
Hello everyone,
A few years ago, a friend of mine was getting rid of many books and offered me the lot, so I gladly took it. There was this book in the lot, called Food First, written by Frances Moore Lappé and Joseph Collins, Published in 1977 by Houghton Mifflin Company, Boston.
That book's intention is to answer why there is hunger in the world. It is a conspiracy that dates back to the 1700's... Big corporations and the UN are manipulating the numbers to make us believe that there is no more space to grow food on. 90% of cultivable land in South America is left to animals, forcing the people to cultivate in regions unadapted to that role which is contributing to environmental degradation... In Canada, milk producers are forced to throw on the soil their over-production so prices don't go down... We CAN feed the world, TPTB just don't want to... And while reading that book, I found the real reason behind the implication of the US in Indochine, known as the Vietnam War. Vietnam had achieved total autonomy about the production of their food and didn't need to buy from another country anymore... Guess what? The Americans used and mixed EVERY INSECTICIDES, PESTICIDES AND HERBICIDES THEN KNOWN TO MAN and bombarded the country with it. Some parts of the land are considered lost for approximatively 50 000 years, the time estimated until nature cleans that mess... But don't worry, the conspiration is world wide, not limited to Americans. In fact, they are also a victim since they are losing more crop as they use more of those chemicals... I recommend everyone to try and find a copy. It's 542 pages and very informative. For the french version, titled "L'industrie de la faim", it was published then by the Éditions l'ÉTINCELLE, for Canada and France, at least.

So, Codex Alimentarius, ban on this and that... It's not only possible, alas, but coming towards us very soon, in the light of that book... written 30 years ago and still actual, in a sense. But you know what? Despite all the "power" of the elite, they would be nothing without us... in fact, THEY are the parasite that should be eradicated. But we ALL have to remember that WE develop, produce and put in action their stupid plans. I know I didn't follow the bully in school, why should I as an adult? Has anyone noticed they sell things FOUND on or in the Earth? Restructured to our needs, but still, what's the bank that cashes Earth's checks? Oh... They didn't pay... How does that account in balance sheets? Instead of being scared, quit your jobs and let the society they built fall down, world wide! When they'll be running around with their tails between their legs, we'll just have to kick them in their bunkers and let them rot in their cage! We should even BURY the doors so they never come out again...
Society is like a sport team. The coach can say and plan whatever he/she wants, he'll always be at the mercy of his/her players... Don't produce their #, don't transport it, don't sell it and don't use it! Dang, they may have a pistol on your head and they may be forcing you to dig your own grave, but what have you got to loose in fighting back. They even gave you a shovel! Ever see what happens when a shovel hits the head, a limb or the groin? How many atomic bombs do you need to kill a guy? Well, it's true that in the movies, the bad guy/gal ALWAYS comes back, for at least 20 minutes, from fatal blows, until he/she falls down for good... until the sequel, that is. How's that for brain washing?
You may have noticed I was metaphorically ironic up there, since I began the "So, Codex..." paragraph. But it doesn't change the fact that you are all participating in your downfall, the foot on the breaks, hoping someone will be "chicken" enough to step on it first... Please! Shake that booty!

Second line added for respect of rules policy...

PS:I just had to use all those 4000 characters maxim

posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 07:57 AM
There is alot of disinformation out there about codex...a heck of a lot.One of the prime people who are spreading falsehoods is Rima Laibow.I apologize that i can't find the site right now but there are another group against codex but go out there way to debunk many of her claims.It was very well thought out and basically showed her to be a fraud...or atleast didn't even read the codex guidelines.In any case it is something to worry about,germany as far as i know have more codex guidelines implemented than any other country.Then again..germany is going a bit crazy these days imo.I recommend people don't take vitamins or multi-vitamins in any case...You will be much healthier by eating good foods and getting your nutrients that way than popping pills and thinking you are healthier because of it.

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