reply to post by readerone
I can't disagree that a large portion of the prison population could be described as individuals that are failures.
But statistically there will be always be a lower half... if half the world is doing better than you, then you are a failure. This however is not a
When we do the Math and look at incarceration, the cost of prison gaurds, police efforts in non violent crimes or even adding in violent crimes in
which no one got hut,the guy who threw a plant across his house in frustration,the dummy who had a bar fight... Minor non orchestrated thefts,
shoplifters, petty criminals
The unfortunate, the failures in life, the people who many of which simply had no damn luck at all...
when you add it up, police, prison stays, guards, building of facilities, food
and then factor in loss of productivity those peoplegiven a chance might of had....
The cost for these prisoners is 5x what it would cost to give
No questions asked food stamps
and tuition assistance.
We are a harsh,harsh society on the poor, we scream about our taxes, we scream about morals we want everyone to hold to, no one gets a free ride...
In most aspects, we are a light year beyond Islam in social liberality and human decency... but in regards to POVERTY, FAILURE, NEED we live as much
in the 13th century as those we would say we are opposed to.
It costs less to uplift by far than it does to imprison
We spend a Trillion on Army's to kill every year
We give away enough food to other nations to feed every American citizen in the basics...
But when a person steals to feed children we throw the book at them...
We are of ZERO compassion for "failure" as you put it and sadly in these times particularly anyone can reach failure, you, me anyone...
Ifwe can feed half of Africa for free, we can see that our own people Eat even if they are "failures"
It is an air of superiority... to tell your own brother that because this is AMERICA if he has a hard time he is a "failure" and lock that person
away for doing what they had to do.
Even in offering us Health care it comes with the doing away of the capacity to have your own insurance if you choose perhaps, our govt uses it as an
excuse to take control.
Did you know only 3% of the social services budget actually amounts to a welfare check?
And why are drugs illegal and aside from Marijuna how do they even get here? Without conspiracy against the people from within our own govt?
We can invade Iraq, build a missile defense system, build 30,000 nukes over a few decades, sit 11 Carrier Battle groups around the world, invade 2
nations at once, supply 1/3 of the worlds food, consume more of everything practically than any other nation in the world as a people, possess the
capacity via Nuclear for limitless energy, have vast farmlands, almost unlimited water when you factor in Canada, have a nation wide skilled
workforce.... a 4 Trillion per year National budget Hundreds of citizens worth BILLIONS. the capacity to build any number of structures... The most
police of any nation in the world, the most prisons in the world, the worlds largest hospital system, the worlds largest educational system.
And with all that...
We can't get past helping out our own "failures"
We have to be so greedy that doctors don't and won't treat the poor?
We have Trillion acres of protected land... but no housing for the indigent?
Do we really need to have an "underclass" the capacity to uplift isn't there? We will be destroyed without 500 Million dollars yearly into secret
Black Budget weapons programs?
The people of the third world multiply endlessly and we give away tonnage of food... but can't feed the ghetto?
And ROFL... we can maintain a war on 2 fronts endlessly, be in preparation to handle the opening of 2 more fronts, Obama is building another Army of
One Million People to defend the homeland... and we pay for a war on drugs half of which amounts to busting people for Marijuana... a War on our own
Is it that hard to imagine
1/5th of that money going into helping Americans instead of calling them failures? Locking them away so we don't have to look at or deal with them at
5x the cost of dealing with them?
Why are we even in need of a Trillion yearly on defense... because we are the only nation on Earth capable of projecting power and invading across
Who is our border enemy? who is going to attack us...if we butt out of International affairs? Canada? Ay?
Our policies are Deviant and inhumane and revolve on fear and control
Most of these people in jail aren't "BAD" people
I'm sorry but logic dictates...
To eliminate most crime and theft you eliminate poverty
To eliminate socially destructive behavior you Increase education
To eliminate the cycle of social suffering you eliminate the fear of homelessness
To increase quality of life you improve health care and sanitation
and I am a republican... or was...
So I am not a bleeding heart liberal
But this is ridiculous already, people in cages doesn't fix anything and it costs too much money.
What no one wants to deal with and why the govt fears a revolution is that a police state MANDATES it... The probelm with prisons is, the prisoners
get out and they have no options, it follows you forever in the modern age... when you become a society without compassion you guarantee you will reap
what you sow... we areat 30 Million ex cons and counting on our streets thanks to this system...
30 Million ex cons with records on digital and no options for a future mostly for stupid reasons...
The Us army is only 1.5 Million people
The worlds armies combined aren't 30 million strong
The failures of today.... are the Revolutions of tomorrow.
I think it very wise for most of us, to preach compassion before it is too late, the disenfranchised are numerous and ever present, it is only a
matter of time now before America fails...
And when that happens, all the gates will open and that will include those people who never should have gotten out...
The problem with prisons also is... when the money fails and the system fails everyone goes free... and what problems they had were simply never faced
and dealt with and these will be very mad people indeed, especially the ones that didn't deserve years among murders to become just like them...
All i'm saying is
Leniency, Compassion, Understanding, Helping...
These are the traits that build a stable society
Vengeance, Punishment, Hardship and Greed are not
There is a disaster looming... Arnold has never been a stupid man.