Basic Marksmanship (Proper Sight Alignment), page 1
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Topic started on 2-9-2009 @ 09:01 AM by DaddyBare
Sometimes we long time shooters get so caught up in the latest toys we forget not everyone has been taught the basics and the first and most important thing you need to learn is how to properly sight in a weapon be it rifle or handgun. As my brothers in arms will attest the mantra for that become "Sight Alignment and Sight Picture"! for this lesson we're only going to discuss open iron sights scopes and lasers fall in the cool toy category...

As all high guru of combat shooting Col. Jeff Cooper wrote, "If there is one thing that is most vital about pistolcraft it is concentration on the front sight."

Below is a picture of how you should line up your sights.

Note that the front blade/post is lined up perfectly level and centered in the rear notch... it is with the sights aligned thus you can if need be make your adjustments to the sights...

Below is another sample and shows what happens if your not Aligned


Proper Sight picture is the part where people get in trouble... it's natural to want to look at the target but that is a huge mistake... one it distracts so you lose proper Alignment... the only place your eyes should on is that front sight! let everything else blur out (Watch That Front Sight) do that and you'll always hit what you shoot at... Long before you hit the range you should be practicing these two basic skills Slight Alignment and Sight picture should practice picking up that front sight as soon as your weapon comes to eye level... if this is all new to you then now is a good time to do a little dry firing... Dont worry about asking questions either we all went through these first steps


Now I invite my fellow shooters to add to this thread... anyone want to try teaching the proper way to pull/squeeze the trigger? what about the right way top load a magazine or revolver? remember lets keep it basic and assume our student have never touched a firearm...


reply posted on 2-9-2009 @ 09:47 AM by DaddyBare
reply to post by havok



Good point Havok in Sniper school they teach slow controlled steady breathing, you take the shoot at the bottom of the exhale cycle but were getting a bit ahead of ourselves here I was only trying to cover how to line up the sights...


reply posted on 2-9-2009 @ 09:53 AM by DOADOA
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it's not always the case, if you have something to steady the weapon on, sure. if you were active before aiming your breathing might be deep, making it very hard to steady your aim. personally, i take the shot with anticipation to where my sight will be. this method also work very well if you are standing with nothing to lean your weapon against.


reply posted on 2-9-2009 @ 09:59 AM by DataWraith
reply to post by DaddyBare



Hence paintballing or the less expensive airsofting approach. to learn how to target. plus is fun and you don't get dead.



reply posted on 2-9-2009 @ 10:07 AM by DOADOA
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i agree, the knowledge that you are passing on here is extremely important. when there is nobody around to answer their call for help and they have a gun, they will look back and tank you for this.


reply posted on 2-9-2009 @ 10:25 AM by guppy
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Good job. Most people shoot like actors shoot in the movies. Only a few movies actually showed true firearm skills -- Heat and Collateral.


reply posted on 2-9-2009 @ 10:37 AM by DOADOA
reply to post by guppy



hahaha, true. i'd also like to add: do not shoot like actors in movies such as "menace to society," putting the firearm directly to your ear is a very bad idea.


reply posted on 2-9-2009 @ 11:43 AM by guppy
reply to post by DOADOA



Hahaha! A boyfriend of a friend wanted to learn how to shoot. I agreed to do this favor. On the way to the range, he told his girlfriend what he thought I'd be teaching him. The punk kid actually thought I'd be teaching him to shoot gangster -- shooting sideways. What a turd. Luckily, I only heard this after we finished training.

Stay tuned. I'll be opening a post about ideas on sights that are rarely talked about. It'll be under the Weaponry forum.

BTW, practicing marksmanship should be 75% iron sights (using your front and rear sights). While the remaining 25% should be spent using optics (HOLOSight, Red Dot, Scope, etc.).


Plan for the worse, Hope for the best.



You never know when your optics fails you. You could be out of batteries, a drop ruins the scope's alignment, etc. Mr. Murphy is a friend of us all. If you're used to only shooting with your optics and you have to rely on your iron sights, good luck. Hope you're only facing a vicious rabbit.

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reply posted on 2-9-2009 @ 12:41 PM by DaddyBare
Since we broached the subiject of how of how to grip a handgun I'll throw out this vid

there two schools of thought when holding a pistol thumb up and thumb down... the real experts will say thumbs down shows a sloppy grip that leads to "Milking the Gun" between shoots where a thumbs up grip will help you get back on target faster


there's one thing to keep in mind when holding a revolver that is to keep your hands clear of the front of the cylinder... hot gases escape threw that gap and people have lost thumbs!!!


[edit on 2-9-2009 by DaddyBare]


reply posted on 2-9-2009 @ 05:09 PM by guppy
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Well grip can change according to each person. Its whatever feels comfortable with your unique hands. I prefer Todd Jarrett's method:

YouTube : Todd Jarrett on pistol shooting

Jarrett's form creates a nice z-lock with your wrists and elbows. This drastically reduces recoil and provides better sight-alignment recovery after each shot.

I noticed people with small frames can handle larger firearms better with Jarrett's method than traditional. Compare the muzzle flip between the two grips and notice the BIG difference with Jarrett's method. This is probably why many competition shooters have been moving towards Jarrett's method for some time.

But its all about preference. If its not comfortable for you, then don't do it. Same can be said about stance. There are two widely used stances and it comes down to what you prefer.

[edit on 2-9-2009 by guppy]


reply posted on 2-9-2009 @ 05:41 PM by hangedman13
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I looked but might have overlooked it but, when looking through your sights keep both eye's open! Also a newbie mistake is to pull a pistol back {too many movies} after firing.

I like your approach DaddyBare good work!!!
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