Anyone ever been invited to join the Illuminati?

They recruit in subtle ways. They are secret and a secret society. You are invited or your are recruited. They use universities and/or recruit through family. Most of our higher government is involved with one or several of these societies.

Illuminati Exposed a video by the Prophecy Club presents a video which I've mentioned before that explains Satans intentions for our world. The speaker has plenty of documentation to back himself up and was a 90th degree mason before being saved by Jesus Christ. He now is attempting to free as many of these people as he can.

He goes on to talk about the mormon church mainly because and he claims to have documentation, that the mormon church was formed by warlocks for warlocks. Smith and again, the speaker claims to have proof, that J. Smith was in fact a warlock himself. He warms to watch out for religious groups or any other organizations that are trying to recruit you. For as you should know the way of the lord is open and sharing. To hide nothing and be open and willing to share. There are no secrets and this is the way of a christian.

I'm worried that you ask the question, how do people join... I warn you, joining this would not be a good idea. The end times near God warns those who are part of the system will wish for death and death will run from them. When you join any organization you are giving yourself to the evil cause and breaking your bond with the lord. As the speaker in this video goes on to say. And it is true you can not worship both. He claims the mormon church is a cover, a place of refuge for people like himself, when he was part of the cult, to hide and feel decent about themselves. Mind you most mormons are good people and try to live good lives. The Lord he'd rather you cold or hot, but if you are luke warm he will spit you out. Do not take this the wrong way and think you have to pick one side or another... This is not what God means. He means to be genuine. If you are part of this cult, which is many organizations, churches and schools then you are not genuine.

At any rate the point is be aware of the consiquences before you get yourself into something you can't get out of...

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Please do not warn people about something you know nothing of other than the disinformative propaganda you have been fed from the Catholic church. Oh the disinfo does not link to them directly.. but they are the source of it all.

Do my words always fall on deaf ears?

*sigh*

hi my name is dv626, yes it myte not be a name but for reasons of security i cant give you my real name. but i can tell you that the sighns of the masons are real i cant tell you them but they are real just seacrch for them on the internet

Originally posted by NephraTari
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Please do not warn people about something you know nothing of other than the disinformative propaganda you have been fed from the Catholic church. Oh the disinfo does not link to them directly.. but they are the source of it all.

Do my words always fall on deaf ears?

*sigh*

I'm sorry to have annoyed you by my comments, but I've done enormous amounts of research and I use common sense. I have a very good grasp on things. I make my statements under the assumption that the good people of ATS have already done the research and are already aware of what I speak about. If you would like some of the documentation I suppose I could provide it, but you could just as easily do some investigating yourself to see how everything fits. It's not just one thing you need to understand it's the dismal tide. However, you state some truth about the catholic church, which is mainly true about most organized religions.

What you find on the internet is not valid research it is what was put there to steer your views in a specific direction.

The history of what happened with the original bavarian illuminati is the only real information we have. They were intercepted and disbanded according to accepted accounts and the documents said found on the person of the founder were plans to unravel the catholic church and return mankind to truth. Not a world controlled by the fear of religious gods.

All the websites you find are not VALID information. I could make a website today saying that the humpalump club was a top secret arm of the government founded in the 1950's to stop transdimensional transportation.. But that would not make that true.

NephraTari, I highly appreciate your candor, and charisma. It is always a good feeling to see people such as yourselves fighting the disinformation, propaganda, and malicious fallacies spread about the true nature of the Illuminati. Those of us whom still tread the path of enlightenment see people such as yourselves, as arbiters of truth. If you are amongst the ranks of the Illuminated, continue down the luminous path. If you are a supporter, or even a skeptic of our existence and ways; continue your search for truth, and in time your fortitude will drive truth upon your feet.

HruthTurts, I would ask that you bar judgment until you have acquired the "truth," and not just it's dismembered shards. You have manage to confront the Mormons, Catholics, Satanists, Masons, and Illuminati in a single accord. I must greatly stress the Illuminati is IN NO WAY affiliated or involved with these chaotic, and sometimes "disruptive" organizations. The Illuminati stands as a consortium of "Illuminated" intellectuals, philosophers, futurists, leaders, and scientists alike. Our organization DOES NOT RECRUIT. We do not establish web sites, kiosks, or any type of open "invitation" or "indoctrination" into our organization. PRIMARILY our organization "recruits" from within family lines, and loyalists to the cause. We are not "EVIL" people put quite common. Collectively our "families" may inherit greater power, or even wealth. However we see that as a sacrifice of our destined duties. Initially, the dichotomy of "enlightened" individuals was a notion of higher thought, ideology, and responsibility. A responsibility for our families. the world, and all it's creatures, a responsibility to preserve life and light upon this world, until such forces that are batter capable may do so. I specifically identify with my Shard's stance. I must note that this is not the "Illuminati's" stance but that of my respective "Shard." We believe in the preservation of all life and light in the world (like that of the Illuminati in whole), but our specific duties limit our involvement to that of "mediation," we work subtly and quietly to ensure vies for malicious power or influence are obstructed. At the same, we work to reinforce and support individuals with constructive and peaceful aims. Many unfortunately see us as an "EVIL ALL ENCOMPASSING," "AL CONTROLLING" entity. I assure you this is neither the case nor physically possible. We collectively as a united organization, are capable of swaying political positions, and economic sanctions. However we are unable to either "collectively" enact these capabilities or "total force" upon the world. Bear in mind, we exist as "Shards." Infighting and heated debates have plagued the attempts at reunification for centuries, ever since the Bavarian collapse. We are currently in no way "totally" unified, nor capable of exerting "GLOBAL DOMINATION." Often a not, shards will "wash over" each other. Creating political and economic moments that either cancel or mitigate each other. I also feel I must mention we in no way, shape, or form possess any type of "militia," as many have come to "believe." I often criticize, sarcasticise, and ridicule this "theory." For it is quite preposterous, specifically in regards to our history, and our dichotomy. We believe in the eventual unification of humanity, the day everyone recognizes themselves as 'human," rather than of a "nationality," "religion," or "race." We look to rise and unite humanity as a single "Illuminated Species" in the light of true civilization, and at a global peace. I hope this may have cleared any previous misconceptions. As for the other "organizations" you may mention i am not fully aware of their "purposes / motivations," and therefore cannot speak to them. Finally as for our "secrecy" this is not a veil of conspiracy, or evil deeds. It is simply a long held means of cloaking the identities of our own to protect them from those with less savory intentions. (continued)

Because we do not support in any way, shape or form physical force, we must have an intellectual means of protecting ourselves. As i have previously stated we only have each another to depend upon, and protect. Therefore we utilize secrecy as our means for protection. Many misconstrue this cloak of protection as a devious medium for conspiracies, however this is to the contrary. I hope this has proved insightful and enlightening in the quest for knowledge. If there is anything that the Illuminati more identifies with, and supports, it is the never ending quest for universal understanding.

Until again...
- Shall the light of True Civilization shine upon us.

Originally posted by Maban
NephraTari, I highly appreciate your candor, and charisma. It is always a good feeling to see people such as yourselves fighting the disinformation, propaganda, and malicious fallacies spread about the true nature of the Illuminati. Those of us whom still tread the path of enlightenment see people such as yourselves, as arbiters of truth. If you are amongst the ranks of the Illuminated, continue down the luminous path. If you are a supporter, or even a skeptic of our existence and ways; continue your search for truth, and in time your fortitude will drive truth upon your feet.

I am not "officially" among the ranks of the illuminated so to speak. However I am on my own path that I believe probably runs parallel to your own. Ty for your words. The way I see it.. there are alot of people stumbling around in the darkness, I hand them a flashlight and hope that they use it, in all honesty I am still learning to use it myself.

I have been invited to join the Illuminati, and I declined the offer. I belong to another secret society, which will remain unknown!

Originally posted by Masonic Light

As far as �brainwashing� goes, it was the nominal purpose of the Illuminati to destroy brainwashing. According to the Illuminati�s doctrine, people had been brainwashed by the Church and the right wing government propagandists, and the supposed duty of the Illuminati was to assist in erasing this programming so that people could lead �enlightened lives�, thus the purpose of calling themselves �Illuminati� in the first place.

SO the Illuminati essentially just brain-washed people into the Enlightenment ideals? It seems to me illumination is just what the "good guys" call brainwashing. If you erase a program you just leave a blank space that needs to be reprogrammed - all socialisation is "brainwashing", right from the very start when first acquiring language. The language(s) you first learn totally shape one's ability to think in certain ways.

I don't wanna be "enlightened" thanks, I just want to be me. Which is really freakin' difficult when I'm not sure where me ends and everything else begins!

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But don't you see. You are not YOU, you are THEM! They have fed you their doctrine since birth so that you have no choice but to believe or fear.

NO de-programming in itself is not brainwashing it is freeing the mind to absord the truth and do with it as it chooses because the goal is to FREE the minds of enslaved humans.. not replace the doctrine with new doctrine.

to the op question. yes. When I bought a TV I got automatic membership.

if you want to know if your brainwashed just study the area of psychology/market research.(don't forget politics end of it either) and thats only the beginning.

enlightenment is a whole other story witch probably answers all these questions about "evil" and whatnot, but that is a whole other forum all together.

I once got invited to a tupperware party. After attending I have to say that those women are DEFINITELY trying to take over the world. $80 for a plastic bowl with a lid!?!

Michelle

Originally posted by Michelle129
I once got invited to a tupperware party. After attending I have to say that those women are DEFINITELY trying to take over the world. $80 for a plastic bowl with a lid!?!

Michelle

What does this have to do with the topic? Did you read the terms when you joined ATS. Posts like this have no merit to the discussion whatsoever. Please take this sort of thing to BTS. thank you.

I find it troubling people seem to post, but do not read the previous posts. I think it has been made clear that the "Illuminati" does not, RECRUIT, INDOCTRINATE, BRAIN-WASH, or ENSLAVE their members. These are fallacies that many people have simply made attempting to attack something they cannot see, and therefore "Must be Evil."

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Sorry, you're absolutely right. It was an attempt at humour that was obviously off topic and uncalled for. But in case you didn't notice, the entire thread was filled with others injecting humour into the situation as well.

Sorry again

Michelle

Los iluminados son unos comemierdas.

*She said, respectfully*

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NP hon, sometimes people come in and do that just for the sake of belittling the topic of the thread. sorry if I misinterpreted your intent.

Originally posted by NephraTari
reply to post by rexpop

 

But don't you see. You are not YOU, you are THEM! They have fed you their doctrine since birth so that you have no choice but to believe or fear.

NO de-programming in itself is not brainwashing it is freeing the mind to absord the truth and do with it as it chooses because the goal is to FREE the minds of enslaved humans.. not replace the doctrine with new doctrine.

But don't you see - it's only your truth! What about all those people who genuinely don't want your ideal of "freedom"? You say truth can be absorbed as though there's an absolute truth, and if you believe it, you liberated and if you believe something else you're brainwashed. But how do you know that what you think is Truth isn't just some uber-brainwashing that THEY've done to you? I'd argue that even your statement "Free the minds of enslaved humans" is in itself a doctrine, so really you want to replace their slave doctrine with your liberation doctrine. I'm not saying that it might not make a better world if you do, I'm just saying that it's still and indoctrinated world. I don't believe that the freedom you're offering is real freedom. But then, that's probably just my brainwashing, right?

Well, maybe your response to this post (to presume you will respond) is just your brainwashing?

Originally posted by Maban
I find it troubling people seem to post, but do not read the previous posts. I think it has been made clear that the "Illuminati" does not, RECRUIT, INDOCTRINATE, BRAIN-WASH, or ENSLAVE their members. These are fallacies that many people have simply made attempting to attack something they cannot see, and therefore "Must be Evil."

Yeah, but we don't believe you. Actually, I'm pretty sure you're a deliberate plant by the Illuminati put here to sow disinformation (can plants sow?) so that we'll be unprepared for when you try to forcefully recruit and indoctrinate us with your brain-washing and enslave us just like you have the rest of humankind.

Uh, I am being facetious, but I'm just making the point that with conspiracy theories of this nature, all information posited on a forum can be considered fallacious, because of the very fact the Illuminati is a secret society that would try to hide its real intentions and methods. If it exists at all.

EDITED for all my typos. Seriously, I type like my fingers are on backwards.

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