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Originally posted by JayinAR
The Federal Government is overstepping its bounds YET AGAIN with this crap.
It is as simple as that. Socialized ANYTHING is a disgrace to the Constitution of this Country.
It sickens me that military personnel wouldn't understand this. I mean, they swore to protect the integrity of that piece of paper.
I guess they never bothered reading the damned thing!
Originally posted by JayinAR
reply to post by mental modulator
I don't give a damn what people think about my opinions.
What I see is clear as day. Obama has changed NOTHING but the face that is selling the same set of f#ed up goals.
His administration is comprised of the same idiots that made up the LAST criminal organization.
They have merely shifted their focus to another set of goals.
And idiots buy it all.
Originally posted by JayinAR
reply to post by Wormwood Squirm
I had completely forgotten that I had that "title" up.
I'm not a tattoo artist at all. It is a line from Talledegah Nights. Ricky Bobby's dad goes to school to talk about what he does for a living and says: "I'm a SEMI PROFESSIONAL Racecar driver and an AMATEUR tattoo artist."
Eh, whatever.
Actually, I am a disabled vet. I am entitled to 100% free medical care provided by the Government.
Yet I am covered by Blue Cross Blue Shield through my employer.
I don't want their damned insurance.
I am not a slave to the system.
Originally posted by JayinAR
reply to post by mental modulator
First of all, I have never seen aspirin sell for 50 bucks.
And if I needed aspirin and they tried to charge me that much for it, I might go to jail for assault after I threw the bottle at the clerk's face.
Secondly, and it has been spoken about quite a bit here, we DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. You are looking at a situation where the Government is going to do this TO MAKE MONEY!
Yeah, your doc. bills will be covered, but you won't be able to afford groceries.
Originally posted by JayinAR
reply to post by mental modulator
Oh snap!
I hadn't had time to put that much together.
Weird circumstance here. It will sound out of place, but I tell no lie.
My employers JUST NOW, as of September 1st switched to Blue Cross.
We used to be covered by United.
They are doing this in advance of the reform.
Originally posted by JayinAR
reply to post by mental modulator
Yes, the hospital charges outrageous sums.
But that won't change when the Gov runs the insurance.
A prime example are the already existing GOVERNMENT operated hospitals.
We have one here where I live.
Washington Regional.
200 bucks for a pillow.
I don't believe, anything. I analyze for myself problems and then reach conclusions. Let's not be hypocrites here: If you think giving TRILLIONS to foreign banks and other financial institutions for JUNK, was a-okay. Then you have no right to complain about corporatism and welfare for the rich.
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
And saved our a$$ or extended the problem depending on who you believe.
Let me get this strait...
Once again... acts of congress may not be in line with your desires, but that doesn't make it any less democratic.
You didn't answer the question: Was this act as a result of people wanting to be spied on, regardless of the constitution?
Well that's more of the Republic side of our government. That was an executive thing.
As much as I hated it... it was. It was voted on by our elected representatives.... so yes it was an act of Democracy.
At then end of the day...NOTHING. They WENT against the WILL of the people.
At the end of the day , it was....
What makes you think you know the will of the people?
Sure, MANY of you. But MANY DOES not mean EVERYONE or the Majority.
Everytime someone doesn't want something they say gov isn't listening to the American People, yet I don't think you are. Many of us wanted these very things.
Exactly, and if the majority of Americans want to sink this bill, or end further government encroachment is this not their right?
I'm sorry but democracy doesn't have to have good results. They may not be actions you agree with, that doesn't make it any less democratic.
If there is no tyranny HERE, then the FEDERAL government CANNOT impose its WILL ON THE STATES. YOU claim that their is no TYRANNY, THEN STAND together with those states that constitutionally don't want to FOLLOW FEDERAL MANDATES. Are you going to do that, HunkaHunka? Or be the little TYRANT that I think you might be and pound your FIST ON THE TABLE AND DEMAND THAT TEXAS OR any other STATE abide by the will of the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT or wish for WAR, DEATH, AND DESTRUCTION for your fellow Americans.
There is no tyranny here, except in your mind. For example... you are free to leave if you don't like our democratic process. Or you can run for office.
August 12, 2009
More Disapprove than Approve of Obama on Healthcare
Forty-nine percent of Americans currently say they disapprove of President Barack Obama's handling of healthcare policy, while 43% say they approve, similar to views expressed in mid-July.
Fifty-one percent (51%) of all voters say the cost of health care will go up if the reform proposal passes. Nineteen percent (19%) say costs will go down, and 21% say they will stay the same.
Voters in all age and income groups, again by large margins, believe passage of the reform measure will drive up health care costs.
Originally posted by Blaine91555
The facts don't match the premise.
Gallup
August 12, 2009
More Disapprove than Approve of Obama on Healthcare
Forty-nine percent of Americans currently say they disapprove of President Barack Obama's handling of healthcare policy, while 43% say they approve, similar to views expressed in mid-July.
Rasmussen Reports
Fifty-one percent (51%) of all voters say the cost of health care will go up if the reform proposal passes. Nineteen percent (19%) say costs will go down, and 21% say they will stay the same.
Voters in all age and income groups, again by large margins, believe passage of the reform measure will drive up health care costs.
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The winds are definitely changing.
I don't vote for either R's or D's anymore but I don't trust the government to run healthcare.
Do you guys not care about your own wallets?