Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
reply to post by xmaddness
On the other side of the coin, just because it is popular does not mean that it is a shill saying it.
Beck is a real patriotical, he senses evil and I agree with how he FEELS.
Keith Olbermann Destroys Glenn Beck (VIDEO), page 2
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reply posted on 1-9-2009 @ 07:59 PM by David9176
reply to post by tothetenthpower
Yet he ignores the fact that the very company he works for (MSNBC) is owned by GE.....who crazily...just happens to have THE CEO OF CNN as one of OBAMA"S ADIVSORS. GE received billions of dollars in bailout money as well.
Bush may have been a fascist...in fact I won't even dispute it. No denying that he RAN THIS COUNTRY INTO THE GROUND long before Obama took the reigns.
But for Olbermann to flat out ignores the blatant "FASCISM" that GE and the Obama administration is doing...well...that's all anyone should need to know.
Not to mention GE has lots to gain with green energy and health care.
He called George Bush a fascist on national television after the whole Verizon scandal, I think that was very much in tune what with people thought at the time.
Yet he ignores the fact that the very company he works for (MSNBC) is owned by GE.....who crazily...just happens to have THE CEO OF CNN as one of OBAMA"S ADIVSORS. GE received billions of dollars in bailout money as well.
Bush may have been a fascist...in fact I won't even dispute it. No denying that he RAN THIS COUNTRY INTO THE GROUND long before Obama took the reigns.
But for Olbermann to flat out ignores the blatant "FASCISM" that GE and the Obama administration is doing...well...that's all anyone should need to know.
Not to mention GE has lots to gain with green energy and health care.
reply posted on 1-9-2009 @ 08:17 PM by David9176
reply to post by xmaddness
Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter if it was done before or not. He's still an advisor and it's a conflict of interest....not to mention GE has it's own media arm.
Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter if it was done before or not. He's still an advisor and it's a conflict of interest....not to mention GE has it's own media arm.
reply posted on 1-9-2009 @ 08:37 PM by TheOneElectric
reply to post by David9176
Does matter if you are using it in context to slight Obama, not that I even care. Also, I am sure Fox News is under the control of one of the big six. Be fair and attack them all instead of just a specific one for your argument. They all have it in for us, am I right?
You guys, all of you seriously need to leave the extremes and move towards the middle. This fighting is seriously getting sickening and annoying. You fall into their plans with the infighting and nonsensical partisanship. But go ahead, be the reason why future generations have it really bad, go ahead I dare you.
Does matter if you are using it in context to slight Obama, not that I even care. Also, I am sure Fox News is under the control of one of the big six. Be fair and attack them all instead of just a specific one for your argument. They all have it in for us, am I right?
You guys, all of you seriously need to leave the extremes and move towards the middle. This fighting is seriously getting sickening and annoying. You fall into their plans with the infighting and nonsensical partisanship. But go ahead, be the reason why future generations have it really bad, go ahead I dare you.
reply posted on 1-9-2009 @ 08:54 PM by David9176
reply to post by TheOneElectric
It's true. And you are right about Fox News. Robert Murdoch has stock in either MSNBC or NBC...can't remember which.
And I'm trying to divide anyone....if anything I"m trying to do the opposite. Have you seen this thread?
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Does matter if you are using it in context to slight Obama, not that I even care. Also, I am sure Fox News is under the control of one of the big six. Be fair and attack them all instead of just a specific one for your argument. They all have it in for us, am I right?
It's true. And you are right about Fox News. Robert Murdoch has stock in either MSNBC or NBC...can't remember which.
And I'm trying to divide anyone....if anything I"m trying to do the opposite. Have you seen this thread?
www.abovetopsecret.com...
@ Beck reply posted on 1-9-2009 @ 11:45 PM by sanchoearlyjones
reply to post by DrMattMaddix
I have to say I don't like either one. The MSM is friendly opposition to one another; it's goal is the dividing of the People.
Both Beck, and Olbermann have their agendas. They both have an ultimate goal laid down before them by their masters.
In effect they both represent agent provocateurs, and are in place to act as Shepards of the Sheeple.
I actually watch both occasionally, but only to learn what Slavery Inc. wants to indoctrinate through there psychological warfare program called the Mainstream Media.
Just my two pesos,
Sancho
S&F
edit: I actually wrote a thread about the beck, olbermann, hal turner angle today trying to show People it's all the same..
www.abovetopsecret.com... wrong thread the first time..
[edit on 1-9-2009 by sanchoearlyjones]
[edit on 1-9-2009 by sanchoearlyjones]
I have to say I don't like either one. The MSM is friendly opposition to one another; it's goal is the dividing of the People.
Both Beck, and Olbermann have their agendas. They both have an ultimate goal laid down before them by their masters.
In effect they both represent agent provocateurs, and are in place to act as Shepards of the Sheeple.
I actually watch both occasionally, but only to learn what Slavery Inc. wants to indoctrinate through there psychological warfare program called the Mainstream Media.
Just my two pesos,
Sancho
S&F
edit: I actually wrote a thread about the beck, olbermann, hal turner angle today trying to show People it's all the same..
www.abovetopsecret.com... wrong thread the first time..
[edit on 1-9-2009 by sanchoearlyjones]
[edit on 1-9-2009 by sanchoearlyjones]
reply posted on 1-9-2009 @ 11:56 PM by DrMattMaddix
reply to post by sanchoearlyjones
Well, you sum it up quite nicely... Agenda in a can! Everyone has one.
What is your agenda? Why don't you point the finger at yourself?
Beck's agenda appears to be encouraging Americans to become involved.
Obama's agenda is that Americans will become involved because his minions will enforce his will upon Americans... and they will like it.
That's stinks too familiar with historical errors.
Pick your canned agenda wisely.
[edit on 9·1·09 by DrMattMaddix]
Well, you sum it up quite nicely... Agenda in a can! Everyone has one.
What is your agenda? Why don't you point the finger at yourself?
Beck's agenda appears to be encouraging Americans to become involved.
Obama's agenda is that Americans will become involved because his minions will enforce his will upon Americans... and they will like it.
That's stinks too familiar with historical errors.
Pick your canned agenda wisely.
[edit on 9·1·09 by DrMattMaddix]
reply posted on 2-9-2009 @ 12:37 AM by sanchoearlyjones
reply to post by DrMattMaddix
My agenda? Live, and let live. Harm no one. Do unto others as You would have them do unto You. Last, but not least Freedom from oppression at all costs.
Now, I donno that You, and I see completely eye to eye; do You find that Fox is overall a great channel? An answer would be good.
I will give mine now that they are just another PTB controlled MSM psychological warfare machine. There was a documentary about Fox News, and the amount of subversion it was involved in. Rupert Murdock is just plain evil.
Glenn Beck has picked up on the patriot movement now, and is subverting it. Instead of 9/11 truth it's the 9/12 project......... He mirrors real patriots, but perverts the message.
The man is out there encouraging revolution.....almost, but it's with a skewed view point. He sides with Israel; which is siding with AIPAC, or the entire US Congress. It really is a matter of breaking down everything the man says. It is an elaborate con. Keith Olbermann is the same thing; just the other side of the Slavery Inc.
I only say this because they will incite until armed rebellion, and We could very likely end up with the same thing that happened to Russia in 1917-18. The Bolsheviks let the other sides beat themselves to death; the entire time cheering both sides on, and swooped in when the other sides were at their weakest. That's how We came to know Soviet Russia.
Again,
Just my two pesos
My agenda? Live, and let live. Harm no one. Do unto others as You would have them do unto You. Last, but not least Freedom from oppression at all costs.
Now, I donno that You, and I see completely eye to eye; do You find that Fox is overall a great channel? An answer would be good.
I will give mine now that they are just another PTB controlled MSM psychological warfare machine. There was a documentary about Fox News, and the amount of subversion it was involved in. Rupert Murdock is just plain evil.
Glenn Beck has picked up on the patriot movement now, and is subverting it. Instead of 9/11 truth it's the 9/12 project......... He mirrors real patriots, but perverts the message.
The man is out there encouraging revolution.....almost, but it's with a skewed view point. He sides with Israel; which is siding with AIPAC, or the entire US Congress. It really is a matter of breaking down everything the man says. It is an elaborate con. Keith Olbermann is the same thing; just the other side of the Slavery Inc.
I only say this because they will incite until armed rebellion, and We could very likely end up with the same thing that happened to Russia in 1917-18. The Bolsheviks let the other sides beat themselves to death; the entire time cheering both sides on, and swooped in when the other sides were at their weakest. That's how We came to know Soviet Russia.
Again,
Just my two pesos
reply posted on 2-9-2009 @ 03:55 AM by DrMattMaddix
reply to post by sanchoearlyjones
Those are nearly all wicca. Do you call yourself a wizard? Just curious. I'd hate to pin a tag if it's untrue.
After much channel surfing looking for something that I can trust... FOXNews is the best MSM (if you want to call it that.)
As for Rupert... and his agenda... and the whole conspiracy that people will paste across FOX's entire crew, affiliates and all, that they have some grand agenda as you imply. Inciting civil strife leading to Bolshevik Reruns; I highly doubt that. Unless you want to also pin 40's Fascism onto Obama.Admin...
It also goes to show just how influential the media is in our society. All of the alphabet broadcasters know exactly how powerful they are... they command millions. Until they are exposed as frauds to the core (if they indeed are.) FOX has paid their dues. Rupert is evil but you can tell by Beck's actions that his no more evil than any other.
Many other MSM have provided glaringly obvious examples that they are extremely biased. So, it's no wonder that most of the folks that just turn on the TV to unwind, tune in FOX because they have seen that they can trust them for the most part. Their popularity didn't happen over night.
In fact, it as CNN's blatant 'in the Obama tank' coverage of the Presidential Race that had me throwing things at my TV. Gurgen is a slime unlike no other. I better not get started. I have a huge rant for them.
FOX has it's flaws. You need to be able to trust the American people to make sound judgements/descisions based on information they obtain from whatever source they choose. Obama was obviously pushed as the hottest popular topic. With almost no competition in his popularity contest he won hands down. We still know almost nothing about him.
Beck and his crew are at least looking and asking questions they should have ALL been asking... but there's that dang agenda in a can again.
Personally, I could care less if he sides with Hebrews, Jews, Zionists (not the best company, in my opinion, as I've known one, maybe two, personally) I see that Beck is striving like no other to encourage people to get involved rather than using his power and position to force his will on others, "and they will like it." The guy is really a crappy communicator at times.
I don't see subversion in 9/12 or in any of his material. He very wisely is staying clear of the conspiracy theories for time being because; and it should be obvious:
If he wants to get to those great Americans that don't make time for forums and survival and UFO's and 9/11 truth ... He has to hit them with views that are tangible, facts that won't put him on the fringe.
He has almost come out and said it in plain English. "He's a recovering alcoholic" Really, who cares. What he's really saying is that people can change over time. What you knew about him before isn't necessarily the way he is now.
Anyhow, Just like the rest of us that don't run near the inner circle of TPTB he's striving to expose what he can... without going fringe. And it's working.
In my opinion, TPTB don't want America to fall apart.
Seriously, when flying coast to coast and seeing the wide sprawl of cities knowing that each house has 2-5 people (or use Google Earth) our country's size can be mind boggling. Our country could not end up in a civil war of sorts. Somethings got to give... I'd bet against American Revolution as a bluddy, never ending, street by street, confrontation. Although, Riots on the scale of the LA riots wouldn't surprise me.
People are just pissed off, many unemployed, they have nothing better to do than riot when a spark hits the combustible source. Unlikely that Beck's poor communication style would influence that far, the critics flame him yet almost in the same breath would be happy to claim it's all his fault, implying that his influence really does reach that far. Does it?
Wow, /ramblin off
What is your primary source of information? How do you know that you can trust it?
Edit to add: I'm from the generation that saw Nixon's ass handed to him on a silver platter ... by the press.
[edit on 9·2·09 by DrMattMaddix]
Those are nearly all wicca. Do you call yourself a wizard? Just curious. I'd hate to pin a tag if it's untrue.
After much channel surfing looking for something that I can trust... FOXNews is the best MSM (if you want to call it that.)
As for Rupert... and his agenda... and the whole conspiracy that people will paste across FOX's entire crew, affiliates and all, that they have some grand agenda as you imply. Inciting civil strife leading to Bolshevik Reruns; I highly doubt that. Unless you want to also pin 40's Fascism onto Obama.Admin...
It also goes to show just how influential the media is in our society. All of the alphabet broadcasters know exactly how powerful they are... they command millions. Until they are exposed as frauds to the core (if they indeed are.) FOX has paid their dues. Rupert is evil but you can tell by Beck's actions that his no more evil than any other.
Many other MSM have provided glaringly obvious examples that they are extremely biased. So, it's no wonder that most of the folks that just turn on the TV to unwind, tune in FOX because they have seen that they can trust them for the most part. Their popularity didn't happen over night.
In fact, it as CNN's blatant 'in the Obama tank' coverage of the Presidential Race that had me throwing things at my TV. Gurgen is a slime unlike no other. I better not get started. I have a huge rant for them.
FOX has it's flaws. You need to be able to trust the American people to make sound judgements/descisions based on information they obtain from whatever source they choose. Obama was obviously pushed as the hottest popular topic. With almost no competition in his popularity contest he won hands down. We still know almost nothing about him.
Beck and his crew are at least looking and asking questions they should have ALL been asking... but there's that dang agenda in a can again.
Personally, I could care less if he sides with Hebrews, Jews, Zionists (not the best company, in my opinion, as I've known one, maybe two, personally) I see that Beck is striving like no other to encourage people to get involved rather than using his power and position to force his will on others, "and they will like it." The guy is really a crappy communicator at times.
I don't see subversion in 9/12 or in any of his material. He very wisely is staying clear of the conspiracy theories for time being because; and it should be obvious:
If he wants to get to those great Americans that don't make time for forums and survival and UFO's and 9/11 truth ... He has to hit them with views that are tangible, facts that won't put him on the fringe.
He has almost come out and said it in plain English. "He's a recovering alcoholic" Really, who cares. What he's really saying is that people can change over time. What you knew about him before isn't necessarily the way he is now.
Anyhow, Just like the rest of us that don't run near the inner circle of TPTB he's striving to expose what he can... without going fringe. And it's working.
In my opinion, TPTB don't want America to fall apart.
Seriously, when flying coast to coast and seeing the wide sprawl of cities knowing that each house has 2-5 people (or use Google Earth) our country's size can be mind boggling. Our country could not end up in a civil war of sorts. Somethings got to give... I'd bet against American Revolution as a bluddy, never ending, street by street, confrontation. Although, Riots on the scale of the LA riots wouldn't surprise me.
People are just pissed off, many unemployed, they have nothing better to do than riot when a spark hits the combustible source. Unlikely that Beck's poor communication style would influence that far, the critics flame him yet almost in the same breath would be happy to claim it's all his fault, implying that his influence really does reach that far. Does it?
Wow, /ramblin off
What is your primary source of information? How do you know that you can trust it?
Edit to add: I'm from the generation that saw Nixon's ass handed to him on a silver platter ... by the press.
[edit on 9·2·09 by DrMattMaddix]
reply posted on 3-9-2009 @ 11:56 PM by yellowcard
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
I like Obermann. He called George Bush a fascist on national television after the whole Verizon scandal, I think that was very much in tune what with people thought at the time.
That being said, since Obama has taken the reigns he's become very pro government as of late and its' a bit un-nerving.
I still do like his rants on Bill and Beck from Fox. And let's face it, he's one of the only anchors who pokes fun at those folks every day.
Perhaps he understands a little comic relief is necessary when we are bombarded with negavity everytime you open the teli.
~Keeper
Keith Olbermann never had his finger on the pulse of America, and has ALWAYS been pro-government, he's just not pro-government when a Democrat
isn't in the White House. If you honestly think Glenn Beck's audience is that stupid, then you should flip over to Bill Shultz...or hell even
Olbermann...who never ONCE attacks a democrat or has a guest on with opposing views...at least Beck and O'Reilly do that (Even Hannity and Maddow do
for Christ's sake). Olbermann somehow is a coward, yet a pompous asshole at the same time. I despise Keith Olbermann, he's the scum of the earth,
and I would rather have to be waterboarded than to watch his show in marathon. Originally posted by UneedTOhitTHIS
where do you get the idea that Becks viewers are less intelligent?
I've watched both.
So that either makes you really smart or really stupid...I've watched both of them as well, and as I said earlier in the past 8 or 9 months I have watched Keith Olbermann I have rarely if EVER seem him have someone on with opposing views. He's a contributor of the Daily Kos and has Ariana Huffington on as a frequent guest.
BTW: for all you Olbermann fans
www.salon.com...
He's slime.
[edit on 4-9-2009 by yellowcard]
reply posted on 4-9-2009 @ 12:39 AM by sanchoearlyjones
reply to post by DrMattMaddix
Wizard? No sir, just lots of World travels, and experiences have humbled my butt.
Your my friend for a reason; that is simply because You are an intelligent Person. I respect Your answer almost 100%.
My sources as You asked are simple observation. I wouldn't be a good friend should I not give my two cents.
Fox has turned 180 degrees in many arenas. I cannot stand anyone who changes that much, and they have; to myself it shows agenda. I know Beck is reaching out; as I've read many, many People mention that.
I will not say he isn't reaching out, but I urge Everyone, and You to be vigilant. People are learning, and one of the most important things they need to recognize is independent critical thinking skills.
The Patriot Movement existed long before Fox News, and is growing exponentially. It would be in the best interests of TPTB, and/or The NWO to gain control of that movement.
So, my Friend I only urge vigilance, caution, and using Your own critical thinking skills in the coming days
Wizard?
No sir, just lots of World travels, and experiences have humbled my butt. Your my friend for a reason; that is simply because You are an intelligent Person. I respect Your answer almost 100%.
My sources as You asked are simple observation. I wouldn't be a good friend should I not give my two cents.
Fox has turned 180 degrees in many arenas. I cannot stand anyone who changes that much, and they have; to myself it shows agenda. I know Beck is reaching out; as I've read many, many People mention that.
I will not say he isn't reaching out, but I urge Everyone, and You to be vigilant. People are learning, and one of the most important things they need to recognize is independent critical thinking skills.
The Patriot Movement existed long before Fox News, and is growing exponentially. It would be in the best interests of TPTB, and/or The NWO to gain control of that movement.
So, my Friend I only urge vigilance, caution, and using Your own critical thinking skills in the coming days
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