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A few questions for Chemtrailers

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posted on Sep, 1 2009 @ 03:23 PM
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I will say right now that I don't believe in the theory that we are being poisoned by planes on a daily basis. So I fall on the Con Trial side. But when involved in a discussion with chemmies (a name I saw for them and liked) they don't answer these fairly simple questions. So I will ask them here in a thread dedicated to finding out these tough answers.

1. If Chemtrails are being sprayed at a rate of 2700 flight per day or more on unsuspecting people just in the CONUS, then how do these pilots justify killing their own families?

2. If it's the government spraying us, why will presidents, vice presidents, cabinet members, and other political people be outside where the chemicals can potentially kill them? It's like shooting 50 bullets into the air and hoping none come back to hit you.

3. What is the reason for the spraying? I would like to know if it's to kill us, or to block the sun, or to make goo collect in our lungs. there has to be a reason.

4. Why is it that a weather person can verify that con trails exist and even predict when they will appear more frequently, yet they are ignored. Yet Joe Nobody claims that con trails don't last like chemmies do, and everyone dismissed the science? I thought science was a good way to prove things. At least as opposed to blind fantasy.

5. Lastly, what is being sprayed on us? With all the supposed knowledge folks seem to have about who, when, where, and how, the "what" should be a no brainer.

Please inform me so that I may be as enlightened as some of you are.




posted on Sep, 1 2009 @ 07:05 PM
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Chemtrails aren't a 'Theory' the government admits it... many governments admit it.. they say its for our own good... they have even won awards for their chemtrail programs... alil research goes a long way.


www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...

www.prisonplanet.com...

www.drudge.com...

and the list goes on and on and on and on... well you get the idea.



posted on Sep, 1 2009 @ 09:45 PM
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1. they tell families to lock the windows

2. its normally sprayed over the weekend, when all elite goes to country, and shiple out of work on the streets, in the parks, etc

3. testing human behavior, polution etc

4. What ?

5. Pesticides of all sorts, that makes us caugh, snease and run to ring Swine-line... where some 16 year old pupil will diagnose you with swine flu



[edit on 1-9-2009 by angelx666]



posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 11:08 AM
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1. Yeah, because looking the windows (not just closing them) will for sure protect you from very small particles of pesticide.. -.-

2. Yeah, because the particles are so heavy and won't stay in the air for long or what? Will they just fall down to the ground and not affect your "elites" when they return from their fishing trips?

3. Yeah, of course! Why has nobody thought of it before! Surely there MUST be more efficient ways of polluting the athmosphere, and surely less suspicious ways..!

4. What "What ?"? Read the OP's question again and check the science. Even I can predict when contrails will show up, just by looking at some actual meteorological data.

5. Seriously? Man kind is killing each other every day in way more efficient ways than giving each other a cold. Get real.



Thank you OP for these nice questions!

[edit on 2-9-2009 by Zyril]

[edit on 3-9-2009 by 12m8keall2c]



posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 05:57 PM
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sarcasm proves nothing... read my links and debink them? or better yet do your own research, the Government openly admits to chemtrailing and yet people will try and deni it.. don't people even read their own Governement documents anymore?

[edit on 3-9-2009 by 12m8keall2c]



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 03:16 AM
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I'm European and don't understand your government, sorry.

And sarcasm proves how ridiculous those answers were. Just as ridiculous you probably though my were.



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 07:15 AM
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your documents prove that at some time in the past, chemicals were sprayed out of planes. I will also say that cloud seeding still happens. What I don't believe is that every line in the sky is a chemtrail, or even that any of what we see on a daily basis are chem trails. Average life span for humans increases every year. Think about that for a second. Now tell me again what "they" are doing to you? I thought so.



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 07:19 AM
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Well if the average life span is increasing then why are both of my parents, step-father, uncle, and father-in-law all dead before the age of 65? Cancer, high-blood pressure, diabetes, heart attacks, and kidney failure. All of them suffered the same symptoms, received medical treatment, and died despite all the efforts, surgeries and medications. So, please let me know how that figures into the average life span increasing?

Thanks.



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 07:22 AM
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Five people dying at age 65 of diseases which are hereditary, doesn't represent the total population. Census figures are used to determine the average age...not personal experiences



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 07:28 AM
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I am sorry to hear about your family, but there is a lot of people in this world and if you take a poll and include all those people, on average they live longer. You can even get figures for different areas of the US. Chemtrails are like the Loch Ness Monster. Some folks think it's real, but most who like evidence don't think so. What about the other questions I asked?



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 07:29 AM
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Personal experience has much more weight than statistics with me. What I personally experience I trust 100% more than something someone I don't know anything about reports. Remember the old saying? Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see. I think, believe, feel, intuit, sense the wisdom in that statement. What are the statistics against my reasoning?

Typo

[edit on 3-9-2009 by Hazelnut]



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by network dude
Please inform me so that I may be as enlightened as some of you are.


If someone has all the answers to these questions, I'd like to hear them. Speculation goes both ways, however.

Edited the entire quote from OP


[edit on 3-9-2009 by Hazelnut]



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 07:44 AM
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Originally posted by network dude
I will say right now that I don't believe in the theory that we are being poisoned by planes on a daily basis. So I fall on the Con Trial side. But when involved in a discussion with chemmies (a name I saw for them and liked) they don't answer these fairly simple questions. So I will ask them here in a thread dedicated to finding out these tough answers.

1. If Chemtrails are being sprayed at a rate of 2700 flight per day or more on unsuspecting people just in the CONUS, then how do these pilots justify killing their own families?


2. If it's the government spraying us, why will presidents, vice presidents, cabinet members, and other political people be outside where the chemicals can potentially kill them? It's like shooting 50 bullets into the air and hoping none come back to hit you.

3. What is the reason for the spraying? I would like to know if it's to kill us, or to block the sun, or to make goo collect in our lungs. there has to be a reason.

4. Why is it that a weather person can verify that con trails exist and even predict when they will appear more frequently, yet they are ignored. Yet Joe Nobody claims that con trails don't last like chemmies do, and everyone dismissed the science? I thought science was a good way to prove things. At least as opposed to blind fantasy.

5. Lastly, what is being sprayed on us? With all the supposed knowledge folks seem to have about who, when, where, and how, the "what" should be a no brainer.

Please inform me so that I may be as enlightened as some of you are.


1. Perhaps the pilots don't know about it. Most of the stories suggest it is a very surreptitiously placed ducting out to the anti-static wings of a plane, so there's no reason or code , as to the pilot fully inspecting the vehicle like that.

2. It's claimed time and time again by people such as Greer et al, that the president knows nothing of the UFO cover up and NRO operations are need to know, there is no reason why chemtrails couldn't be a similar operation, most especially if they are related.

3. Well, the aluminium components (as micro/nano particles) do have an effect on wind current/weather, (as weatherman may say, a small pressure can turn into a tornado, so theoretically weather modification ought not to be too difficult, doing it safely however, is a different story).

4. There is a very good point in that somewhere, are you saying that weathermen say chemtrails do not exist - and that it is actually con trails. Fair game.

5. Apparently very tiny particles such as Cadmium, chromium, copper, aluminum, barium, zinc, manganese are a key constituent component apparently, and I believe that scientific research already shown deploying these in a biosphere is effectively weather control.





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posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 07:47 AM
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Originally posted by 7redorbs

3. Well, the aluminium components (as micro/nano particles) do have an effect on wind current/weather, (as weatherman may say, a small pressure can turn into a tornado, so theoretically weather modification ought not to be too difficult, doing it safely however, is a different story).


Well thats the first Ive heard about it, can you explain how aluminium particles affect the weather so much, that they cause a low enough pressure like that found in a tornado funnel?



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 08:02 AM
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It's nice to see someone answer these with some thought.



Originally posted by 7redorbs

1. Perhaps the pilots don't know about it. Most of the stories suggest it is a very surreptitiously placed ducting out to the anti-static wings of a plane, so there's no reason or code , as to the pilot fully inspecting the vehicle like that.


Planes have ground crews who have to inspect the planes before and after every flight. then they have to go in the hangar for yearly inspections where they are x-rayed for cracks and repaired. Thousands of people go in and out of these planes. Unless they are all in on it, no dice. The pilot has to know the weight of the plane and account for fuel weight, so he would be aware of thousands of pounds of "bad juice" stored on the plane in the secret "bad juice" containers hidden from view.


2. It's claimed time and time again by people such as Greer et al, that the president knows nothing of the UFO cover up and NRO operations are need to know, there is no reason why chemtrails couldn't be a similar operation,
most especially if they are related.


He would be pissed if he found out huh. And all the other world leaders who are kept in the dark. Since this is a global issue. It makes you wonder who is in charge of all this if the world leaders don't know but you do.



3. Well, the aluminium components (as micro/nano particles) do have an effect on wind current/weather, (as weatherman may say, a small pressure can turn into a tornado, so theoretically weather modification ought not to be too difficult, doing it safely however, is a different story).


please see OZs post. I am not qualified to comment on this.


4. There is a very good point in that somewhere, are you saying that weathermen say chemtrails do not exist - and that it is actually con trails. Fair game.


Chem tails have existed in the past. It is documented. But whey you look into the sky today, and see lines, they are just con trails. Yea, tomorrow too. We used to burn witches at the stake. It seems we grew out of that as well.


5. Apparently very tiny particles such as Cadmium, chromium, copper, aluminum, barium, zinc, manganese are a key constituent component apparently, and I believe that scientific research already shown deploying these in a biosphere is effectively weather control.


If you are referring to cloud seeding, then yes it still goes on. They fly into a cloud and dump a load of silver iodide to increase the chances of rain. It doesn't form a line in the sky. It is dumped directly into the clouds. they also fly planes over fire and dump fire retardant on the burning area. But that is not "chem trails" either.






A



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 08:38 AM
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Wait... All of them had cancer, diabetes, heart attacks and kidney failure?? No wonder they died!

No offence but that seems quite far fetched...but you do believe chemtrails exist so to you it may not be I guess.

Anyway, if true or not I would watch my health very closely if I were you, not because of chemtrails but because things like diabetes can run in the family.

[edit on 3/9/09 by Chadwickus]



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 08:44 AM
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How sweet of you Chadwickus to express your sympathy and concern. And how ironic that you find it hard to believe. Clever of you to discern that those conditions actually result in death. Thanks.



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 08:52 AM
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My condolonces to you and your family. It is always a terrible thing when someone close to you pass away.

But..

..what you think was caused by "chemtrails" could aswell have been caused by:

The exhaust from cars in the traffic
Industrial plants
Chemicals in the food
Overweight

and several other things. Why do you think it is the so called "chemtrails"?
Of course it is nice to have something to blame it on, and it's very convinient when you are a "chemtrail"-believer...



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 08:54 AM
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Oh were you going for the sympathy angle? Should that stop me from questioning you?

All of the illnesses you listed can kill someone on their own. For 1 person to have all of those things would be possible but very rare. For 5 members of the same family to have all of the same symptoms would be equally rare, but for the sake of this conversation lets say they did have all these illnesses, what makes you think it was chemtrails that caused it?








[edit on 3/9/09 by Chadwickus]



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 08:56 AM
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I would also like to extend my condolences to you and your family. While I can understand your wanting to blame chemtrails, I have to agree that there could have been other factors that contributed as Zyril has posted.

I suppose my next question would be has anyone else in the surrounding area gotten sick or passed with the exact same symptoms? I would think that if it were from chemtrails, the whole town would have been affected the same way.



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