So he's with the NWO? Big deal. Who ain't these days?

Besides, it's a kickass song. Makes me want to take over the world.

I dont know I think it was this song I was cursing when I listened to it on the radio, made me think of other songs I heard in the past like Korn @ Nas "play me" where they talk about getting wack talent of the stage like a hermprodite writing letters, or underground not mainstream rap or alternative where gay symbolism was implied.

Around that time Kanye (Jesus Walks) canceled a tour and was talking about he should be allowed "to eat chicken everybody else is eating the chicken he has to work and he was offended he didnt get any chicken"?

I have considered something was going on for a long time with my other threads I wasnt really sure what but there is a lot of things out of place. It sounds like Jay-Z is trying to cash in or write about this knew topic that might have shown up I dont know if he knows anything about the freemasons.

Obviously none of you listen to rap.

The symbol he makes with his stands for 'hova' which is a take on 'jahova' as he refers to himself as a rap god. Which he is, the best rapper of all-time. But I guess if its a symbol of a triangle, it must be a pyriamid and the illuminati.

Originally posted by and14263
Rockefellar Records, Rockawear, all the symbolism... P Diddy, Kanye West, J-Zed... I'm still trying to decide... Do they know something? are they in on something? Or are they just using the 'fringe value' for extra marketing?

One thing is for sure, with all the bling and materialism going on they are more like TPTB than the average ATSer.

They use the fringe for marketing appeal. If you want to find any nefarious connections look at Puffy and the Gambinos. Check out a guy some times call Haitian Jack. Then you start to see the real connections of NY Rap and shadowy people.



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He's a freemason.

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Firstly Jay Z sucks. That out of the way, the illuminati was created by scientists in a time when the church was persecuting all free and intelligent thinkers (the name meaning enlightened) so i find it very difficult to believe that Jay Z could be accepted into this group. I cannot speak of the group that may exist today (we all like to believe it does but there is no concrete evidence to prove their existence) but the original group was dead against religion which sorta rules out satanism because surely if there is a satan there must be a god (nature is built on balance) and these people as i already mentioned hated religion. To suggest things like Jay Z being part of the NWO is doing nothing more than discrediting yourselves. Such theories scream conspiracy nut job and will only make people less inclined to look into the things that are likely to be happening. Look at science fiction, anybody that has gone to the trouble of looking into this for themselves knows that mind control and the like is not only possible but has been achieved but thanks to movies and tv shows things like this have become little more than entertainment. Basically i'm trying to say keep it realistic folks or your just f**king yourself.

ZOMG!

And he called his label the ROC because he he's really a legendary giant elephant-eating eagle from 12th century persia!

You people make me giggle.

Originally posted by tooo many pills
Obviously none of you listen to rap.

The symbol he makes with his stands for 'hova' which is a take on 'jahova' as he refers to himself as a rap god. Which he is, the best rapper of all-time. But I guess if its a symbol of a triangle, it must be a pyriamid and the illuminati.

i have also found this logic hilarious.

i guess the triangle makes all gay people the illuminatti as well.

the amount of critical thought in this discussion reminds me of christian fundamentalists playing heavy metal records backwards; they will all find what they are looking for.

In my opinion Jay Z is nothing more than an intelligent capitalist, he knows this whole NWO conspiracy is big right now, he knows that christians always like to call pop music satanic, so I think he plays into it. It is getting him more attention, "any press is good press", look at all of us talking about him right now. I really don't believe any of the NWO, illuamanti, free mason conspiracies myself. I think he is just into kicking flows and making dough.

Originally posted by Ignorance_Defier
In my opinion Jay Z is nothing more than an intelligent capitalist, he knows this whole NWO conspiracy is big right now, he knows that christians always like to call pop music satanic, so I think he plays into it. It is getting him more attention, "any press is good press", look at all of us talking about him right now. I really don't believe any of the NWO, illuamanti, free mason conspiracies myself. I think he is just into kicking flows and making dough.

I agree 100%, he is a sagitarrious he isnt a gemini.