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Topic started on 1-9-2009 @ 12:00 PM by Matrix Rising
Europe is the Beast coming out of the sea. Socialism is the Mark of the Beast and America is the False Prophet.

Europe was wounded and the deadly wound has been healed by America (the False Prophet). This will eventually give rise to the Revived Roman Empire or the EU and then Europe will dispose of America. This is what's occuring now with Bush and Obama.

Satan is trying to emulate the coming of Christ with his two witnesses. That's Bush and Obama who have lead and are leading America into European styled Socialism which is the Mark of the Beast.

Socialism is the antithesis to Christianity and spirituality. A socialist system is ideal for things like implanted chips. Socialism is all about control of the individual in order to bring him/her into the collective thought of socialism.

The Bible says:

"And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live."

"And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed."

The Image of the Beast is Socialism.

Here's an interesting article:

Bush's Legacy: European Socialism

The results of the G-20 economic summit amount to nothing less than the seamless integration of the United States into the European economy. In one month of legislation and one diplomatic meeting, the United States has unilaterally abdicated all the gains for the concept of free markets won by the Reagan administration and surrendered, in toto, to the Western European model of socialism, stagnation and excessive government regulation. Sovereignty is out the window. Without a vote, we are suddenly members of the European Union. Given the dismal record of those nations at creating jobs and sustaining growth, merger with the Europeans is like a partnership with death.

At the G-20 meeting, Bush agreed to subject the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) and our other regulatory agencies to the supervision of a global entity that would critique its regulatory standards and demand changes if it felt they were necessary. Bush agreed to create a College of Supervisors.

According to The Washington Post, it would "examine the books of major financial institutions that operate across national borders so regulators could begin to have a more complete picture of banks' operations."


www.frontpagemag.com...

Again, this started with Bush and Obama will finish it. America will be the place where the chip system will originate. Probably under the name of securing electronic medical records.

The Bible says:

"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads."

He is the False Phrophet and the False prophet is America.

The Nazis used to talk about the religion of socialism. How this religion would replace Christianity.

Here's some info on that.

Winston Churchill said, “There are two places only where socialism will work; in heaven where it is not needed, and in hell where they already have it.”

It is not particularly surprising that Winston Churchill used these religious eternal destinations when speaking about the political philosophy of socialism. Several of Churchill’s contemporaries also understood, but unlike Churchill, advocated this Religion of Socialism. It was and is well understood that socialism is the very antithesis of Christianity.

Hitler was an aggressive proponent and even assigned his henchman Heinrich Himmler to found the Religion of Socialism.

And Heinrich Himmler, who had started to draw up the new National Socialist religion, followed the command of his Füehrer.

The Füehrer was satisfied and he held out a prospect of a reward which would tie him to the accomplishment of the task: it would be him and his SS which, once the Füehrer had passed away, should take care of the most important relic of his religion, the foundation myth itself—in the shape of the mortal remains of Hitler himself. (From Holocaust History Project Chapter 48: The Guardian of Paradise)

The establishment of this Socialist Religion was not just to offer an alternative to Christianity but is intended as its complete replacement.


Socialism is all about control of the individual for the benefit of the state. It's the antithesis of freedom and liberty but sadly it's here.

It goes on to say:

Martin Bormann stated in a secret decree of the Party Chancellery signed by him and distributed to all Gauleiters on June 7, 1941:

Our National Socialist ideology is far loftier than the concepts of Christianity, which in their essential points have been taken over from Jewry. A differentiation between the various Christian confessions is not to be made here the Evangelical Church is just as inimical to us as the Catholic Church. All influences, which might impair or damage the leadership of the people exercised by the Füehrer with the help of the NSDAP must be eliminated. More and more the people must be separated from the churches and their organs the pastors. Just as the deleterious influences of astrologers, seers and other fakers are eliminated and suppressed by the State, so must the possibility of church influence also be totally removed. Not until this has happened, does the state leadership have influence on the individual citizens. Not until then are the people and Reich secure in their existence for all time." (Nazi Conspiracy & Aggression, Volume I)

The book continued to add to the evidence: Regierungsrat Roth, in a lecture September 22, 1941, to a group of Security Police, in the Reich Main Security Office (RSHA) concluded his address on Security Police measures for combating church politics and sects with the following remarks:

The immediate aim: the church must not regain one inch of the ground it has lost. The ultimate aim: Destruction of the Confessional Churches to be brought about by the collection of all material obtained through the intelligence service (Nachrihtendienst) activities which will at a given time be produced as evidence for the charge of treasonable activities during the German fight for existence


reply posted on 1-9-2009 @ 12:16 PM by Matrix Rising
Continued:

Here's the link for the religion of socialism:

www.sovereignfellowship.com...

Here's more:

On April 2, 2009, the work of July 4, 1776 was nullified at the meeting of the G-20 in London.

The joint communiqué essentially announces a global economic union with uniform regulations and bylaws for all nations, including the United States. Henceforth, our SEC, Commodities Trading Commission, Federal Reserve Board and other regulators will have to march to the beat of drums pounded by the Financial Stability Board (FSB), a body of central bankers from each of the G-20 states and the European Union.

The mandate conferred on the FSB is remarkable for its scope and open-endedness. It is to set a "framework of internationally agreed high standards that a global financial system requires."

These standards are to include the extension of "regulation and oversight to all systemically important financial institutions, instruments, and markets [including] systemically important hedge funds."

Note the key word "all." If the FSB, in its international wisdom, considers an institution or company "systemically important," it may regulate and over see it. This provision extends and internationalizes the proposals of the Obama administration to regulate all firms, in whatever sector of the economy that it deems to be "too big to fail."


www.newsmax.com...

Here's the website of the Financial Stability Board. There's always more money wasted and more control taken from the individual and given to these politicians.

www.financialstabilityboard.org...



reply posted on 1-9-2009 @ 01:28 PM by Ridhya
WOW are you kidding me with your ignorance?

Socialism is the antithesis to Christianity and spirituality.

Being both I would say I am living proof IT IS NOT.

I disagree with joining the EU (am I glad Norway is still sovereign!) but an economic partnership with the US benefits both. If you're pissed now wait for United North America!

The Nazis used to talk about the religion of socialism. How this religion would replace Christianity.

Proof, where please. The NAZIS replaced religion with some cross-breed Pagan-Christian-Occult mix that made everyone happy. So long as they complied.

socialism is the antithesis of Christianity

Yes Jesus preached that the Money Changers were "all right with me bro!" [Matthew 500:92] and an economy where the rich exploit the poor was "totally swag" [500:93]

Hitler was an aggressive proponent

Here's your BIGGEST LIE: Hitler despised communists and you should see how the Nazis treated Russian POW and civilians. And how about blaming the Reichstag fire on communists? He loved them so much he framed them..?

Socialism is all about control of the individual for the benefit of the state.

No you're thinking Stalinism socialism is about the good of humanity, compassion, making EVERYONE work so that people dont get benefits for doing nothing.

More and more the people must be separated from the churches and their organs the pastors. Just as the deleterious influences of astrologers, seers and other fakers are eliminated and suppressed by the State, so must the possibility of church influence also be totally removed.

Hmm why would they do this? Oh its answered in the next sentence:
Not until this has happened, does the state leadership have influence on the individual citizens.

That just screams totalitarian to me. I think the 'socialism' in 'National Socialism' threw you off. Dont feel bad. It tricked millions of Germans too.


reply posted on 2-9-2009 @ 11:59 PM by SevenThunders
I suppose the idiotic responses to the OP have proven my friend correct. Todays youth are brainwashed drones who have no concept of history or any grasp of basic economics. The government likes it that way.

They actually believe that one of the most heinous, evil and failed economic systems, socialism, state control of economic activity, has anything to offer. All of the fortunes and blessing that have accrued to Western civilization in the last 400 years are first due to the Christian faith and second to free market capitalism.

Since you are lit on fire by the devil I won't even bother to explain Christianity to you. That would be throwing pearls before swine. However try to get a clue and learn some of the most basic lessons from history. The pillars of socialism, the soviet union, maoist China, North Korea have all been economic dim bulbs and have created mass misery. Every genuine socialist country in todays world is stagnating and promulgating misery. The Russians and Chinese finally got smart and tossed their marxist idealism in the trash.

You hate corporate monopolies, good they are antithetical to free market capitalism, yet you somehow think the gargantuan monopoly of the all powerful state, vastly dwarfing any corporate monopoly, is a force for good on the earth and not a force for tyranny. Your government overlords must be pleased with their work. Their government controlled education camps and the state controlled media mouthpieces must be proud that they have made you part of the collective. All I can say is that I hope your chains rest on you lightly.
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