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I'm not sure about 1979, i'm talking about the miners strike 1984-1985. They were striking over jobs,(Arthur Scargill always said throughout that it was a planned confrontation to kill the mining industry, as it turns out he was right)the government didn't lose any social benefit rights out of the strike, but the miners families did. They were not allowed any special needs payments, and the family benefits they did get were cut because their husband was a striking miner,(the miner himself would not have any benefits that was standard for any strikers)Thatcher actually said that the government did this as a bargaining tool to get the miners back to work...the reality is that she did not want them back to work anyway, so just pure evil on her part. And some mines did not reopen after the strike being deemed as unsafe after no maintenance being done...do you really think it was the miners who prevented the maintenance engineers from continuing to work?
Originally posted by spacecowboy
reply to post by smurfy
As a Tory it was her dream of killing NUM. Did not NUM bring down the Tories in 1974? Sure the miners deserved a future for all their efforts, but by trying to influence the politics of Britain they were playing a very dicey game. A game they lost in 1979
Nuclear cannot be ramped up and down quickly, Correct? Not feasible.
It takes 12 to 20 years to build a power generation plant. I don't know about the UK but in the US the legal process takes 20 years or more.
Demand for power from homes and businesses will exceed supply from the national grid within eight years, according to official figures.
The shortage of supplies will hit the equivalent of many as 16 million families for at least one hour during the year, it is forecast.
Originally posted by quackers
Yes Thatcher the milk snatcher was an evil vindictive bitch, but the miners strikes were not solely her fault, the unions share at least half of the responsibility.
I know that after all these years there are still Scargill sympathisers, which is just pathetic really because if anyone is to blame for the fall of the coal industry, its him and his picket lines. Crying over spilled milk, still, a victim of their own ignorance.
The coal industry was failing and throwing even more public money at it was not going to fix the problem. Scargill and his ilk were not going to be happy till they had exteracted every last gram of coal, with the help of subsidies, something the government could no longer afford to do. So yeah, Scargill fanboys just piss me off with their romanticized notion of Scargill being the savour of a ill-trodden industry. Utter crap.
Oh yeah and just to add, most coal mines were closed in the 60's, by the then Labour government, not by Thatcher. Also there was not 1 power cut in the 11 year term of Thatcher, but there were in the early 70's which was as a direct result of strike action, not pitt closure. I know people hate Thatcher, and for good reason, but the whole coal industry thing, your blaming the wrong person. Meh.
Originally posted by Laurauk
reply to post by jdub297
The I would ask, if it is right then why have you not done this before the rest of us! If not then it is wrong.
Letme see you taken the jab first, give your children the jab first, then I will believe you! NOT!
Somehow i don't think i will be listening to that crap!!
Originally posted by jdub297
Originally posted by DOADOA
wow, 1 hour in a year without power......wowwwww. a whole hour from 8,766 hours. people can like totally umm starve to death in one hour without power. wowwwwwww
That's the good news!
What about an hour,- or1/5, or 2 hours.?
You expect that what you're told is the truth?
Now, I'd be all for complete darkness for a few hours each night - you'd be amazed.
Originally posted by smurfy
To change the subject back to today, what about a domestic Rotor? As far as I know in my locale it costs about £10.000 to have installed. and some have gone up already,(we have no shortage of 'flippin' wind here ) and there may be a fast track to planning permission. You can also sell back to the National Grid to recoup the costs. Any other suggestions? maybe fuel cells like the new Honda.