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Reasons everyone will WANT The Chip

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posted on Sep, 1 2009 @ 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by jam321
I believe the quickest way to get the majority of people with little resistance is to tie the chip to government benefits. If you want your benefits, you gotta get chipped.

Sounds silly till you remember how they got people to switch from check to direct deposit.

Another quick way is to make it a fad. This would work well on the younger ones.


How would that happen though, what would make it possible for the government to require implanted RFID to recieve benefits?




posted on Sep, 1 2009 @ 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by maus80
You invested hundreds in what?



Chip , penny stock www.google.com...



posted on Sep, 1 2009 @ 09:29 PM
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Originally posted by maus80

How would that happen though, what would make it possible for the government to require implanted RFID to recieve benefits?


no chip - no free 'healthcare' according to Obama bill



posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 06:13 PM
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Well I don't see that being possible, Americans wouldn't stand for it.

I haven't seen nearly enough attempts at "selling" the public on RF/Bio/GPS implants to be able to believe they will try to force it on us before even giving it a good shot at making us want it.

Part of the setup has been waiting for mainstream consumer technology to catch up with the microchip/network/storage technology. When networking makes a huge shift, to either much higher bandwidth wireless, or BPL (broadband through powerlines), Smart Technologies will finally take of in a big way through entry-level smart appliances.


You walk into your kitchen; Your coffee pot knows it's you. It also knows how you like your coffee, what time you like to have your coffee, how many times today/this week/month/year you've used your coffee pot, and how much coffee you made with it versus how much you drank from it.

It is able to share this information with it's manufacturer. It uses a chipset that is similar to the one implanted in you. Ideally (for the manufacturer), it can transmit real-time information including state, condition, and working status directly through its power cord.

Consenting to this "service" is as simple as product registration. Registering your smart appliance can entitle you to certain rewards, features, warranties, and other benefits. The first wave will likely include drastic discounts and possibly free appliances with paid digital services attached.

Your coffee pot was discounted, and activating it got you a free extended warranty, and a discount on your favorite brand of coffee, which is instantly applied when you check out at any store.


There is so much money behind absolute statistics, besides the huge money behind preventative technology. Look into Nielsen Television Ratings and how much money is wrapped up in that, it completely dictates how advertising dollars are spent on every tv network. It does this with a microchip.



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 05:33 AM
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Well here's one reason I won't be getting one...



Leading cancer specialists reviewed the research for The Associated Press and, while cautioning that animal test results do not necessarily apply to humans, said the findings troubled them. Some said they would not allow family members to receive implants, and all urged further research before the glass-encased transponders are widely implanted in people.

To date, about 2,000 of the so-called radio frequency identification, or RFID, devices have been implanted in humans worldwide, according to VeriChip Corp. The company, which sees a target market of 45 million Americans for its medical monitoring chips, insists the devices are safe, as does its parent company, Applied Digital Solutions, of Delray Beach, Fla.

Washingtonpost.com

And another reason, or more of a concern considering what we know about the human body and how electrical impulses can affect it, is the following.



Jose Delgado himself became world known when he faced a charging bull, fitted with electrodes and with no other protection save the small black box in his hands with which he had goaded the bull to become further enraged. Then with the bull almost upon him, he pressed another button and the animal promptly stopped in its tracks. At the end of his book Jose Delgado states that the hope that the new power acquired by the behavioral science will remain limited to scientists or some charitable elite does not raise neither distant nor recent past and that the control of human behavior will quickly progress in methodology as well as in applicability. He proposed to employ this new knowledge to create a "psychocivilized society".

Gordon Thomas (the author of the book inspired by the abuse of mental patients in Montreal used for the CIA experiments with the behavior control by means of drugs and different psychological techniques inspired by Russians) who, besides the CIA documents, based his book on interviews with the former CIA employees describes the visit of the director of the CIA Office of Research and Development at the CIA director's office in 1972 where he enthused that the electrical stimulation of the brain was the key to creating not only a psychocivilized person but an entire psychocivilized society - a world where every human thought, emotion, sensation and desire could be actually controled by electrical stimulation of the brain.

Source


Obviously in the above example, that is using wires connected directly to the brain, but with our advances in technology and understanding of radio/electric waves, imo it's safe to assume you could achieve the above results wireless.

Wethepeoplewillnotbechipped.com



posted on Sep, 8 2009 @ 02:49 AM
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It is completely possible that these microchips will be used in conjunction with nanotechnology to prevent and cure cancer. If that isn't a strong selling point, I don't know what is.



posted on Sep, 8 2009 @ 07:47 AM
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There is no way in hell any chip is going into me or my child either for that matter. I'll take off to the mountains, and good luck finding me then.



posted on Sep, 8 2009 @ 08:14 AM
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Great post

. Live stock farmers have been fighting this all over the world. They never mention the problems seen in horses that have been implanted.

Giselle at NAIS info Central does a pretty good round up on the problems with RFID tags. Go to the Netherlands site and click on photos to see what can happen with RFID implants, warning some of the photos are gruesome. After seeing those photos,no way I would allow my animals to have these implants much less a child.



Reports on microchips causing cancer in lab rats, and now this site from the Netherlands on horses and chips. Anyone out there knows that the body can object to a foreign body. The body will fight to rid it and you the owner will be responsible for all medical treatment, you will have to prove that the chip caused the medical issue. Visit this site and see for yourself! www.invisio.nl...



posted on Sep, 12 2009 @ 12:28 AM
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Thank you for the information and links.

I'm sure implant technologies will reach a level of safety considered acceptable very soon.



posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 10:55 PM
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So if the combination RF/Biometric/GPS implant could prevent thousands of diseases, do you think you would want one then?

What happens when this combination makes it a matter of life and death?



posted on Apr, 23 2013 @ 03:47 PM
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Well, this is coming together quickly:
www.knowledgeoftoday.org...-Chip



posted on Apr, 23 2013 @ 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by maus80
We can all be sure that wide-scale microchip implants are on their way.


Au contraire. You'll never see it happen.



What is currently planned is so much more than what you may have already heard about, the RF (radio frequency) chip. It is actually a combination of three separate microchip technologies: RF, Biometric, and GPS(global positioning system).

The RF technology:
Capable of storing and transmitting digital information. This information is dynamic and can be updated at any time. It can also store and transmit biometric and GPS information. When used in combination with GPS technology, can provide the ultimate in identity protection, leading to widespread and possibly enforced use as identification and secure digital payment method.


First, there isn't anything called "THE RF chip", as if there were only one. Next, no implant uses radio. It's all NFC. This precludes transmitting information in the form of a broadcast. Radio implants don't work well because you're a bag of salt water. That screws up reception and transmission, in oh so many ways. So no implants actually transmit radio signals at all. You see the occasional MICS band radio link in LARGE implants with batteries in, like insulin pumps. But that won't work for unpowered parts like implants.



The Biometric Chip:
Capable of detecting an array of health problems, monitoring vital signs, and conducting instant blood tests. These will be sold mostly from a health and emergency prevention angle. It is possible they will be used to monitor children and teens for drug use. They may also be used to prevent driving or operating heavy machinery under the influence. They may also be used in combination with other technologies to safely shut down vehicles and heavy machinery during a health emergency. These will probably also be used in combination with GPS implant coordinates to provide streamlined emergency services.


Currently these have to be swapped out every few weeks. Good for people with specific health issues, not so good for Joe Citizen.



The GPS function:
Will be fought over, and strongly for, with quite a lot of fervor. The arguments in favor of this technology will include streamlined emergency services, the protection of children, and adults, against kidnapping. The ability to streamline the location and arrest of criminals. Strict adherence to all posted speed limits, enforced by satellite with tickets instantly issued digitally.


Three pretty fatal blows against this one - first, your "transmitter" doesn't exist so there's no way to relay the GPS coordinates to anyone. Second, GPS takes a relative lot of power. Even the newest parts would require a comparatively large battery and regular charging to work. You don't have that. Third, you can't pick up GPS satellites embedded in someone's body, because you are a huge impedance step and you're very dissipative in terms of that frequency range.

All this stuff is CT memery.
edit on 23-4-2013 by Bedlam because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 23 2013 @ 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by Asktheanimals
Great thread Maus80, very informative and thought-provoking! S&F. There's so many ways it can go, it's just endless. Now you chip your dog so if it's lost you can find it.


The implant in your dog can only be read from about 10cm away. It isn't for 'tracking' your dog, it's for identifying it when it's picked up by the pound.



We know the PTB want the chip BAD.


Nothing of the sort. It's not an optimal solution for anything, really. The "PTB" can identify you by iris prints gathered at a distance, for instance.



posted on Apr, 23 2013 @ 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by angelx666

Originally posted by maus80

How would that happen though, what would make it possible for the government to require implanted RFID to recieve benefits?


no chip - no free 'healthcare' according to Obama bill


Not at all. Not that Obamacare will end up being anything like what they sold you.



posted on Apr, 23 2013 @ 04:24 PM
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So what your saying is the feral government can do surgery on you and you have no recourse. Like digging the chip out with an x-acto knife? I see a new industry cropping up. On-board self protection jammers that neutralize the chip! Fight the Future !



posted on Apr, 23 2013 @ 04:33 PM
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Flagged+s,this is certainly something to keep an eye on.I truly hope this never comes to fruition though.Nothing to do with "Mark of the Beast" even-there's just something deeply disturbing about the scenario that is being portrayed, in regard to control issues.Taking away of options.No government should be able to have that much control over every aspect of one's life.

Even if they never Force people to take a chip,having to live like a mountain man and having to deprive your children of education,etc because you would rather live on a mountaintop in the wilderness than being chipped like cattle,is just another way of Forcing something upon you-Maybe not into being chipped,but into a lifestyle you may not necessarily have chosen for yourself and your children.It still boils down to control over how others live.

I sincerely hope there will never come a day when it comes down to such a drastic choice.Now living on a mountain in the wilderness may be My cup of tea,but it's certainly not everyone's,and as long as you're a law-abiding citizen,you should be able to choose your lifestyle-and not be forced into one, as the only alternative to the remaining Worse one.

Well maybe there's enough opposition if it ever looks like mandatory chipping is imminent,enough resistance.Maybe it never even comes to that-but certainly,this is a matter that imo should be watched with a beady,beady eye.



posted on Apr, 23 2013 @ 04:51 PM
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I am sorry to say this, but I am at a point where I do believe that american public will take it with both hands, chip, battery and everything attached to it.
Don't people know about Monsanto? About fluoridated water? About vaccines, aspartame, surveillance camera, cell phone radiation, phone tapping, internet surveillance, and so on and on and on? And still they take it all like the good sheeple they are. If there are some voices here and there, making small waves, well, they'll push an awesome discount or a new terror threat and people will ask themselves for more chips.
I have no idea how the rest of the world will react to this, Europe can surprise me sometimes, but I see nothing good coming for the US, at least not in the near future. And it makes me real sad.



posted on Jun, 15 2013 @ 12:25 AM
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Ever here of nano technology. I guess you could consider everyone will have to go and have some minor surgery or injection to place a tiny capsulated device under the skin located on certain agreed upon standards. Which can be read by scanners. Im catholic but I don't see anything wrong with this. The savings would out weigh the detraments. Consider all you medical and finacial information easaly accessable when desired. I would think that scanning device would have to be in close proximity to the implant. You wouldn't want your information be transmitted every where. I would think a smart chip with the ability to comunicate with the scanner for authorization would be the best way. Think about your cell phone. It has a EIC number "Electronic Identification Number: This number distinguishes your cell phone on the network. If you have a valid number and the network recognizes it as valid. You have communications. Hypothetical, say your in a big city using your cell phone, there are devices which can intercept and read that number. Cloning is the process of taking valid EIC number and inserting them in a doner cell phone or any other device which uses such security. This enable another phone to act as you phone. Wouldn't believe you would want some thing like this for your medical and financial transactions. Either way access to you medical information on demand say in a triage condition would greatly improve your survival chances. Benefits out way the detraments.



posted on Jun, 15 2013 @ 12:46 AM
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go read the last book of the Vulgate as to why see this www.ntcanon.org... say 3 Hail Mary, then read the new english bible text apocrypha, and lastly revelation13 vr15-18, and then say you will take the mark freely if you can not find it here it is www.biblegateway.com... still want the "mark"?



posted on Jun, 15 2013 @ 12:53 AM
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To be honest I'm not buying into this...the Public is more apprehensive than ever and I Do Not believe they will eagerly embrace having a chip installed.

It would take some REALLY Strong selling points. Maybe the mentioned cure for cancer would do it, but to simply make life easier and put us in touch with our devices??...I Really Don't see it happening anytime soon.

People are wising up...
Now if it's forced on us that a different story.

This story is worth watching, but in the world I'm living in just don't feel it needs to be viewed as a serious concern.
I say this based on my previous mentioned comments...Along with the current limitations of the technology...
The youtube videos don't make it anymore convincing in my opinion...just saying




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