Sarah Palin gets over 1,070 Invitations ! OMG !

reply to post by jsobecky


It was proven she LIED. You think she didn't. I can't really respond within T&C.

Nothing more to say except she is absurd. I'm not sure where that leaves any further discussion. You can't un-ring a bell.

The woman is a failure, a quitter AND a liar.

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Palin is scheduled to receive 100,000 dollars for her speaking engagement in Hong Kong. Not bad for an hour's worth of work.

We know, its all about the green.
Its not all about the alaskan sheeple!
Shes from idaho, not alaska!

Palin was born in Sandpoint, Idaho,

en.wikipedia.org...

Nothing else matters quite as much as a fat ass bank account!
Whadda shocker!
So obvious a caveperson could understand it.
Money good, sometime fire bad.

Ah yes,.... livin' in the land of greed, home of the 'fraid.
Carry on.....

Originally posted by kinda kurious
reply to post by jsobecky

 

It was proven she LIED. You think she didn't. I can't really respond within T&C.

No such thing was proven.

And surely you have more self-restraint than that, no?

Nothing more to say except she is absurd. I'm not sure where that leaves any further discussion. You can't un-ring a bell.

There's a ton more to say, at least on my part.

However, I'll accept your concession.

G'night.

Sarah Palin is called a liar because the term "Death Panel" was nowhere to be found in HR3200.

But the DNC and others called the town hall attendees 'angry mobs', "desperate Republicans and their well-funded allies", 'nazis', 'demagogues', and other nasty names.

Yet I did not see one attendee with a name tag identifying themself as such.

So who is lying now?

Sarah never said that the words 'Death Panel' occurred in the bill.

She was using a metaphor.

She was describing the panels and committees that would be responsible for rationing health care under Obama's plan. The ones that would, in effect, make life and death decisions.

So she did not lie. People need to understand that she was using a metaphor to describe a very real scenario under Obamacare.

reply to post by elaine

Sounds as if you just want her to use her "pitbull with lipstick" personality to stick it to the party you obviously oppose. It would not matter which candidate from the left had been elected it would be the same.

I think I see now that the right is just using Sarah as some sort of thorn in the the side of Dems because they are still bitter they lost.

I want to elaborate on this.

I hope that she uses her new platform to destroy the socialist train that are Obama's policies.

But just as importantly, I hope she uses it to destroy the wishy-washy Republicans who have sold out their conservative roots.

The ones that set her up for failure in 2008.

At the top of that list is John McCain.

Next come her 'handlers'. The ones that did not schedule her on the conservative talk shows like Hannity and Limbaugh so that she could get her 'national feet' underneath her and to help shape her message.

Instead, they threw her to liberal talk shows such as Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric, where she never stood a chance.

Those Republicans knew that the election was lost; they set her up as the scapegoat.

Now it is payback time, and revenge is a dish best served cold.

Originally posted by jsobecky




She was describing the panels and committees that would be responsible for rationing health care under Obama's plan. The ones that would, in effect, make life and death decisions.

So she did not lie. People need to understand that she was using a metaphor to describe a very real scenario under Obamacare.

This kind of use of a metaphor in such a speech is intentionally misleading to the general public. Do you think she will use this technique in her future speaking engagements? If so then she might continue to get called out for it until she no longer has any real credibility left. As it is now there are many people who refuse to take her seriously.

reply to post by elaine


The metaphors that the DNC are using to describe the town hall attendees are intentionally misleading to the general public. Do you think they will use this technique in the future?

Her metaphor is not misleading. It is another way to understand what the bill attempts to do. It is only misleading if you look at it literally. No doubt there are the uneducated who are unable to do any more than that.

As it is now there are many people who refuse to take her seriously.

But there are many more who want her to speak up more, as evidenced by her speaking engagements.

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reply to post by brimstone735

How do you feel about Sarah Palin taking $100,000 to speak in Communist China?

Not bad for starters. It would be nicer if she could negotiate for the price of the US debt to China, though.

And do you think, during this speaking engagement, that she will be courageous enough to speak out against China's persecution of Christians?

It wouldn't surprise me if she did. One thing I do know, however...she won't be apologizing like Obama does.

reply to post by kinda kurious


You said absolutely nothing in your post, except to allude to Sarah Palin as a bitch.

Anybody else want to discuss this without the character assassinations?

Again:

Allow me to draw your attention to here:

Reaffirming Our Desire For Productive Political Debate (REVISED)

(5) All other politically-charged trolling and sniping intended, in the opinion of our staff and topic participants, to derail discussion away form the issues are not allowed.

No matter how subtle you may word it, that sort of behavior is not going to be allowed.

Thank you

Semper

I'm going to drop out of this thread, at least for now.

Despite Semperfortis' patience and warnings, this thread cannot seem to stay on track. Maybe that's the goal of some - to get it shut down?

I had made what I consider to be some worthy points, which went unanswered and unchallenged except for sniping at Palin.

Regardless, I choose to not participate any longer.

reply to post by jsobecky


I don't want to shove my "dream world" down anyone's throat's. I don't even agree with cap and trade. I think it would be a disaster. Quit jumping to conclusions about me just because I'm a liberal.

I don't see how continuing to drill for oil while ignoring the need to switch to renewable sources helps anyone in the long or short term. I understand other people's opinions that it only matters what we do NOW. Some people like me strongly disagree because we can't keep putting off utilizing the renewable resources that are at our fingertips. You can insult me all you want because I have a different opinion of you. You can call it a dream world. I don't care because it IS a dream I have.

A world where we don't need to kill over oil. No one is going to kill over solar/wind/methane power. No one is going to kill people over bio deisel. People kill people, rob and cheat them over oil. I'd rather live in a world where things like that don't happen. Call it a dream world if you like. I'll take it as a compliment.

In the end, I don't support candidates who refuse to see that we need to start moving away from oil instead of promoting the destruction of more land and sea and the havoc it wreaks on our environment--immediate and as a whole.

This IS why we are in this thread, right? To discuss why we do/don't think Sarah Palin is a good pick for any kind of office especially POTUS. You keep acting like I'm attacking you personally though.

Originally posted by jsobecky


And the budget includes $1billion in rebates to citizens! I know that that must seem vile to a tax and spend liberal, but it is the people's money, after all.

Seriously? That sounds like Obama socialism to me! I guess when a republican does it it's okay then.

Even so, there was a lot more to that budget than the rebates to citizens. I'm sure you read the article but I'll reiterate...she drastically increased the budget in several areas. That's not being fiscally conservative. That's being a tax and spend liberal.

I.E. tax the oil companies spend it on this and that and spread the oil companies' wealth around to the people.

reply to post by brimstone735


Ahhh, so now we get to the meat of the issue. How much does she get to go to other speaking events?

So she is literally becoming a career politician. She had to have realized the real money wasn't in governing Alaska. It was in going around the world and letting everyone know what her two cents is about those pesky liberals.

We don't anymore people like that in our federal government. It's people like that whom are tearing our country apart with their extreme partisanship.

They make their money going around talking about how bad the liberals/conservatives are. They only strengthen the divide. IMO, Sarah Palin is one of the worst. She's a watered down version of Ann Coulter, if you ask me.

I'm sick and tired of politicians going around talking about how horrible the other side is without letting anyone know what they would do differently. Why THEY would be better at it and we should support them.

RELATED TO OP:

Sarah Palin can't cook, can't shoot: Levi Johnston

The latest claims by the father of Sarah Palin's grandson puncture a hole in the reputation of the former Alaska governor as an outdoorswoman who knows how to shoot and field-dress a moose.

"She always wanted things and she wanted other people to get them for her," he said.

He never saw her read a newspaper, and only occasionally a book.

...She quit as governor days later, fuelling speculation she wanted to campaign for the presidency in 2012 or use her new fame to make money.

www.theaustralian.news.com.au...

To paraphrase OP, Go Levi.........................

As a potential Presidential candidate, I think credibiity and charcter are due legitimate scrutiny.

Johnston also repeated claims that Palin said she wanted to quit and write a book or host a TV show.

"She would blatantly say, "I want to just take this money and quit being governor," Johnston said.

news.yahoo.com...

He says she neglected parenting and governorship duties in favor of money

www.msnbc.msn.com...

Can Sarah Palin be more than a political celebrity?

She must decide whether she wants to be a heavyweight public servant or a rock star.

www.csmonitor.com...



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reply to post by nunya13

Originally posted by nunya13
reply to post by jsobecky

 

I don't want to shove my "dream world" down anyone's throat's. I don't even agree with cap and trade. I think it would be a disaster. Quit jumping to conclusions about me just because I'm a liberal.

It's good to know that you are against Cap and Trade. That's a start.

I don't see how continuing to drill for oil while ignoring the need to switch to renewable sources helps anyone in the long or short term.

Check your premises. One of them is wrong... 'ignoring the need to switch to renewable sources'.

I think everybody sees the benefits of developing renewable sources of energy. But that takes time.

I.e., you cannot/should not shift your car from 1st gear to 5th gear. You have to go through the gears.

There is no wind storm big enough, no sunshine strong enough, no cow fart large enough to power the USA. Wind, solar, and methane are all very local solutions at best.

The US runs off of fossil fuels. Oil, natural gas, and coal. And nuclear. There are no current green solutions that can power a city, a hospital, a mass transit system, an airport.

Not to say that they cannot evolve into useful solutions in the future, but we're nowhere near that now.

Sarah Palin is brought under fire for her "Drill, baby, drill!" stance. But it makes a lot of sense:

There are *vast* reserves in ANWR, in shale oil, off-shore, and other places.

We currently spend between $700 billion and $1 trillion for imported oil each year. Imagine the economic benefits to our country if we could develop enough oil reserves and keep that money here at home!

Exploring and developing oil reserves would create many well-paying jobs. We need more refineries - also a source of well-paying jobs.

Natural gas is a vastly under-exploited source of energy in the US. It could be a great source of home heating/cooking fuel.

We need more nuclear power plants.

Your premise is wrong. Everyone can see the benefits of alternative fuels. But we are nowhere near the point of sustainability yet.

You want to throw the switch from fossil fuels to green power today. Can't be done.

You want an expert view on it? Look at T. Boone Pickens. A couple of years ago, he invested heavily in wind power...he recently dropped out because, in his words, it 'wasn't a viable source of energy'. And he sunk billions of his own money into wind power before conceding defeat.

Lol, nice find, KK.

As Keith Olbermann said, who I greatly respect, criticizing Palin over what she does is done on her own! You don't need to dig for information. You don't need to try to wait.

She does it on her own, and she's been doing it so often, that since November, she's been headlining news.

Wow, she is definitely screwed for 2012.

Though, I was hoping she would become the candidate. I think it would only how how far the GOP has sunk.

LOL, wouldn't that be funny if they DID nominate her? LOL!

Sorry, but Palin is like Obama in polar contrast.

I see the same "person" inside each of them.

Once Obama is done doing whatever to this country, people will want more "change" - and Palin is sure that! We can go back to a white person, AND a women! More change change change...

At first, I liked her (WAAAAY back when I saw her on a Glenn Beck interview, before running with McCain). But after seeing her do a few speeches, it is obvious how politically correct she is.

Anyone remember the whole joke about her kids being pregnant or something? After commenting on David Lettermen's joke, she tossed in a "But a more important matter is OUR troops! God bless them".

She is sooooo fake. But with the amount of idiotic women in this country that will vote for her on that reason, and the amount of men who thinks she is drop-dead sexy, combined she has a chance!

I think neither is a right reason to vote someone in for office.