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Andromedan Presence near Earth [pt. 1]

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posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 12:35 AM
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many of the 3rd countries are in # because of meddling by external corporates and intelligence agencies like CIA,Mi6 or Mossad.

your this statement was enough to indicate that you are another crazy poser claiming to be an ET.




posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 12:46 AM
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Originally posted by Spruk
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You mean here on the right?

To the right i see an Allele count, that is incomplete. A full autosomal test is 22/23 genes, no professional will EVER supply a partial. Since i if the PCR gives back ANYTHING but a complete set of dna they will throw the sample and request a new one as it was clearly tainted.


Oh? What country are you in? Here that is a standard test.Even the "genetic ancestry" folks use that test. Further, there is suffecient data contained there to make a preliminary determination.



Heres the kicker, i will give you two scenarios that everyone can happily google.
First Case: heterochromia - I have a friend who has this, and i can tell you despite being absolutely stunning, both her parents are have brown eyes. Hers? One blue, One brown. (Personal)

Second Case: A black couple has a child who is white skinned, and blue eyes.

Third Case: A white couple give birth too a child who is black skinned, and dark brown eyes. Parents have anglo-saxon physical markers.

I can confirm ALL children have been STR tested, and parentage is confirmed, all thee children ARE directly related to the parents (so no cheating/outside interference).

So ladies and Gentleman unless there are any other questions, i think i shall file this one under "Genetic Anomoly, but is earth born".


In any of these cases has there been research into family lineage?

Here, in the US, there have been police cases where the very same kind of autosomal data has been used to identify unknown persons. From that data it is possible to develop a rather basic description of someone, and, the "genetic ancestry" people use it to determine ancestry.

So, what is your guess


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posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 12:49 AM
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Originally posted by ludwigvonmises003
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many of the 3rd countries are in # because of meddling by external corporates and intelligence agencies like CIA,Mi6 or Mossad.

your this statement was enough to indicate that you are another crazy poser claiming to be an ET.



I'm sorry, but you can't use "words" to determine biology. Just don't work. And, just what "stateent" was that



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 01:00 AM
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Originally posted by DeadSeraph

I love how the burden of proof rests on your story, and not on the guy giving you scientific evidence as to why your claims are bogus. You have been debunked completely.


No, not yet.

There is not enough evidence to do that, yet. Can't prove it either, so you get to make up YOUR mind.
But, you don't get to call it debunked, or hoax, or, indeed anything other than unknown.

And, burden of proof does not rest on my story. It rests on the complete analysis of all the data. So far we have addressed only a part of that data.

When the data is exhausted, then we shall see. Though, it still won't matter, there is still a atter of Personal Expirence, and, while that may not work for you, I can't ignore it. By the way many of these "Personal Expirences" have been verified, sort of, by Terrestrial Psychologists.



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 01:08 AM
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Oh? What country are you in? Here that is a standard test.Even the "genetic ancestry" folks use that test. Further, there is suffecient data contained there to make a preliminary determination.


If by "preliminary determination" you mean "guess" then yes, yes you are right. The "enetic ancestry" folks use the same law enforcement, just proves blood relative, origin etc. It has nothing to do with physical appearence and internal organs.


In any of these cases has there been research into family lineage?

Here, in the US, there have been police cases where the very same kind of autosomal data has been used to identify unknown persons. From that data it is possible to develop a rather basic description of someone, and, the "genetic ancestry" people use it to determine ancestry.

So, what is your guess


Now if you want to go down the law enforcement route, CODIS which is the standard adpoted by all state law enforcement:


Technology is used to describe the type of forensic DNA analysis performed in the laboratory, such as RFLP, STR, YSTR, or mitochondrial DNA.
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This is used to identify the individual and liniage beyond a resonable doubt, that is all. It is not a full sequence (as they take years). This tech is used in most first world countries (US, EU, ANZ are good examples). As for re-creating a 'profile' that is inaccurate.

What you can tell is:

Gender - M/F
Origin - European, African or Asian descent
Family lineage



Nuclear DNA or nDNA

Usually, when we speak about DNA, we are talking about what is technically known as nuclear DNA or nDNA. It controls most aspects of our physical appearance and physical make-up. We know that every cell in our bodies contains two copies of it in the cell nucleus.
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Law enforcement DNA records are NOT nDNA. The reason for this is an nDNA sequencing takes about 6-12 months per sample, and that is on the proviso that the sample is NOT tainted. However the standard sets of tests for Law Enforcement are somewhat "faster" giving results from anywhere between 4-12 weeks (test results can vary depending on the number of tests required etc and so forth, so take these with a grain of salt).

TL;DR version - RFLP, STR, YSTR, mtDNA exams are faster, and can prove with enough markers of their genetic footprint, but does not supply a full genetic description of the person.

nDNA exams or full sequencing takes a LONG time to produce and make it unviable for law enforcement, but will give you a full genetic profile down to what color your skin is, if it has any genetic quirks.


As for my 3 examples, all DNA exams proved parentage as i said. There was no infidelity, no genetic manipultation or IVF.



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 02:11 AM
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According to descriptions of Andromedians they are highly advanced and can send information telepathically and can read your mind. The member caleld AnthraAndromeda cannot do that, it is silly to claim he is an alien, like me claiming I am a dinosaur...

The best way to destroy a forum troll is to not pay attention to them



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 02:18 AM
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So... where you able to get me that apointment with your E.t Psych?? cos seriously I NEED HELP!

please whenever your ready i'm here waiting, hell tell me where he is and i'll go to him!



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 09:35 AM
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Well, that was certainly a lot of dancing.

Lets look at from another perspective. You stataed that there was a small set of data that can be derived from the autosomal data.



What you can tell is:

Gender - M/F
Origin - European, African or Asian descent
Family lineage


This is all the data you need.

As I hope I stated earlier, I am a software engineer. One of the tasks we frequently expirence is the searching and ordering of data contained in relational databases. These sort of tasks are important to a wide spectrum of industry; Banking, Insurance, Medical, Gaming, just to name a few. This is also the direction my business has taken over the past 15 years.

So, with any database that contains the above information as a part of its dataset. It is possible to write a query on that data that will organize the data into any "group" that is defined within the dataset. In this case that would be; origin data associated with individual records. This will result in the data being organized into these groups.

Applying a query to select a dataset that can identify the record in question will allow us to obtain this Origin data for any record. In a case where such origin data is not available; we can write a query that will find it for us. By applying a set of constraints to the data, we can "filter" the database and allow it to "show" us the unknown we are searching for.

For instance; in an Insurance broker's database; I want to findout how many people have purchased insurance; by; cost, city, state, and type. I write my query and apply it to the database. I am returned a dataset ordered by cost, city, state, and type. To this set I can apply a further filter that returns the type (special event, auto, life, etc), I can order this second dataset any way I like, just like the first.

Armed with this data; One only needs to apply that data to the real world. And, now I can give my prospective client a "ballpark" figure on what his insurance policy might cost.

The same can be done with DNA data, as long as the data we are searching for is contained within the data.

Thus it becomes quite easy to take autosomal data and apply my allele counts to it and find the "most probable" origin data. And since it is a relational database, I can also obtain "weights" on the probability of my data actually being contained within the resulting datasets..

This will work with any data.

Apply this to my autosomal and tell us what my origin "should" be.

Should be very simple.

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posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

Originally posted by ludwigvonmises003
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many of the 3rd countries are in # because of meddling by external corporates and intelligence agencies like CIA,Mi6 or Mossad.

your this statement was enough to indicate that you are another crazy poser claiming to be an ET.



I'm sorry, but you can't use "words" to determine biology. Just don't work. And, just what "stateent" was that


Just like you cant use words as irrefutable proof. When someone points out flaws in your facts, thats the only type of response you can give. Your a sick individual, and keep it up, sooner or later you'll be put in either in jail or a straight jacket. Your kind (liars) are not wanted.



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 02:33 PM
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Looks like Acidsweep hit a nerve. He's right. You offer nothing as far as proof goes, and there is a plethora of facts that do not support what you say.



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by Rubicant13
Looks like Acidsweep hit a nerve. He's right. You offer nothing as far as proof goes, and there is a plethora of facts that do not support what you say.


No, acid is a troll and truble maker whose only purpose here is to disrupt in anyway he can, apparently including marginally illegal activity.

Show me "facts" that don't support my assertion.



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 04:19 PM
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I want a pic of your ship or an andromedan alien and/or human.



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by Rubicant13
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I want a pic of your ship or an andromedan alien and/or human.


Actually, there are 3 types of capital ship. This is our Command Ship. It a little ore than 1km in length and 1km at its widest point, it is 250 meters thick. This image is lightly processed (contrast enhancement) so the ship can be seen well. These machines are a dark gray in color and quite strange in the reflection of light. They can almost vanish without moving much, or turn slightly and neary blind from the reflection.




posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 04:45 PM
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But, you don't get to call it debunked, or hoax, or, indeed anything other than unknown.


With no evidence it can be called a hoax.



And, burden of proof does not rest on my story. It rests on the complete analysis of all the data. So far we have addressed only a part of that data.


Actually it is up to you to provide burden of proof or you can apply the above statement.



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

Originally posted by Rubicant13
Looks like Acidsweep hit a nerve. He's right. You offer nothing as far as proof goes, and there is a plethora of facts that do not support what you say.


No, acid is a troll and truble maker whose only purpose here is to disrupt in anyway he can, apparently including marginally illegal activity.

Show me "facts" that don't support my assertion.


LOLOLOL. DUDE, YOU are the only troll here.. Just look at your 'ship'. HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!!!!!! I'm literally LOLing right now!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!

marginally illegal eh? HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!!!! You're a HOAXXXXXXXXORRRRRRRRR!!!!
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posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 04:51 PM
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Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

Originally posted by Rubicant13
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I want a pic of your ship or an andromedan alien and/or human.


Actually, there are 3 types of capital ship. This is our Command Ship. It a little ore than 1km in length and 1km at its widest point, it is 250 meters thick. This image is lightly processed (contrast enhancement) so the ship can be seen well. These machines are a dark gray in color and quite strange in the reflection of light. They can almost vanish without moving much, or turn slightly and neary blind from the reflection.




Okay, so now that I'm sorta done LOLing (still chuckling though) at the ship. How authentic does this seem to everyone else? buhahahahahhahha!!!! (sorry, I started laughing again!!!!)

This made my day.. ahahahahahahahahaha
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I can make a more realistic ship with a lego set!!!!!! BUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHA!!!!!!!!!! (cant stop laughing!!!)
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posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 04:52 PM
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Actually, there are 3 types of capital ship. This is our Command Ship. It a little ore than 1km in length and 1km at its widest point, it is 250 meters thick. This image is lightly processed (contrast enhancement) so the ship can be seen well.


So this is one of your ships you say?

All that technology and this is the best they or you can do for a picture?



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 04:57 PM
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It's a CGI image, and a poor one at that.



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 04:58 PM
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You're funny!


If you want something, you must be specific.



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by Rubicant13
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It's a CGI image, and a poor one at that.


I'm not atating at this one way or the other on that; however, if you are going to call it CGI you will need to prove that.
Personally I think its mor like you don't know what to expect, having never seen one of these things from the inside. So, you ask, and then condemn, and all you have done is waste time.




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