Doesnt matter, how it happens anyway. One thing metaphysically for your soul is, if you die for freedom's sake, you are free and will be portalled out of here and away from their soul wiping technology. We have to stand up for freedom.

There are many groups, and the one that is being promoted for a 2012 takeover is Vrill. This the black ops, bloodlines, zetans, possibly that silicon based mystery species mentioned in the UN meetings. Theres also a group like a federation of renegades. They make work with zetans, jointly, and do things separately too with their own agendas. THey see humans as resources. There are many planets fighting for freedom and a kind of starwars things going on.

What true disclosure with the right forces behind it looks like is Anthra's thread. These are the heros and freedom fighters. My friend and I who have had joint meetings and experiences and who share advisors, one of whom has a very similar name to his mother's name, and who I know is andross, very tall, dark haired male. These guys are wonderful.
Well aside from these good guys, we both have experience with zetans and Vrill. Both those with bloodlines and/or starseeds who are psi, are targetted by them. Well he has shared waking up with skinny, germanic blond hybrid type women having sex with him, telling him, she was raised on this. That was repulsive. He had this false idea of higher dimensional and advance races who experience the Universal Understanding and use telepathy being sexual perverts. Nope. They're not. Quite the opposite actually. That patriarchal abuse of women and children ENDS NOW.

We are facing a Vrill nwo takeover with a false disclosure coming. If disclosure brings a one world government that still leaves bankers, corporation heads, money, possibely a new one world religion that has teeth in courts to maim and kill people much like Sharia law, if disclosure allows disasters to depopulate, its VRILL. This is not what disclosure looks like. ETS don't use money. They live in free monelyess society of high education, go to school for 180 years on average and retrain whenever they want, and volunteer, reduced hours, though they do commit longer hours in their longer lives to various projects and adventures if they choose, and no is without. Its like Linux open source system. They are free, responsible, and psi and care about each other.

They are also wakign ppl up with crop circles, and scripts, and music groups like era. I have a thread on waking up, and lowki has a wonderful thread on manifesting, his latest:
How To Design Express and Manifest Magick Spells. The title may not be like by religious folk, but its basically law of attraction but in an in depth fashion, et style. This is how you deepen your meditaitonal experience, ascensional experience, and go into your right hemisphere. The reason for the wake up is starting to become somewhat obvious to me.
I guess we may end up as freedom fighters too. We're expected to wake up, remember who we are, and band together. Good idea! In this, I certainly hope it turns into a cosmic battle, else we'll be dying to be free.

M'Ka'o'l je zo'a' me' ke'ra' lo' mer'in'ja'! O' na' ki'ol' ja'na' e' zu'
So' na' na'!

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if you were really an alien, you wouldn't have said," thats on you." a real alien would have said," that is your responsibility to behold," or something along that line. y'see, you have to at least TRY and sound like an alien. so far you're not being a very good one. a lot of other ones that i see on here are much better at pretending than you are. you suck.

he says he has been an inhabitant of this plant since the 1940's if im correct. therefore adapting to the ways of the humans and obvserving our behaviors, languages, etc..
i really have very little respect for people like you, who ignore to see both sides. you make up your mind before you know the whole story. this man is taking a bashing from people like you! STOP! i hope one day karma hits you in the back for being so rude and ignorant to someone who is so much more knowledgable about his topic and human topics for that matter then YOU! you suck.

if you were really an alien, you wouldn't have said," thats on you." a real alien would have said," that is your responsibility to behold," or something along that line. y'see, you have to at least TRY and sound like an alien. so far you're not being a very good one. a lot of other ones that i see on here are much better at pretending than you are. you suck.

he says he has been an inhabitant of this plant since the 1940's if im correct. therefore adapting to the ways of the humans and obvserving our behaviors, languages, etc..
i really have very little respect for people like you, who ignore to see both sides. you make up your mind before you know the whole story. this man is taking a bashing from people like you! STOP! i hope one day karma hits you in the back for being so rude and ignorant to someone who is so much more knowledgable about his topic and human topics for that matter then YOU! you suck.

AnthraAndromda, when did you realize you were Andromedan? Was there a waking up experience for you, or did you know all along?

Are Andromedans 3rd dimensional?

I assume you have incarnated as a normal-looking human. How does that work? Is it like a mental projection into a hologram?

Do you know of any other races that are pretending to be human?

[edit on 11-1-2010 by someotherguy]

Originally posted by someotherguy
AnthraAndromda, when did you realize you were Andromedan? Was there a waking up experience for you, or did you know all along?

I was told by some Pleiadeans when I was about 5 years old, the knowledge lay dormant for about another 15 years or so. Then I spent another 30 learning to accept it. It is not an easy thing to learn you are not what everyone says you are.

Are Andromedans 3rd dimensional?

Andromda are a non-ascended enlightened species that occupy the same space-time realm as any other physical being.

I assume you have incarnated as a normal-looking human. How does that work? Is it like a mental projection into a hologram?

Do you know of any other races that are pretending to be human?

[edit on 11-1-2010 by someotherguy]

Andromds (my species) are a human looking race that grow to about twice the height of a human, other than that there are little differences. Our DNA is also quite simular to Humans, so we could easily pass as one of you, even with a moderately close look. So, no; no mental projection required, accept for full grown adults, and then it is the application of some sort of technology.

Other species ... the only others I am aware of here on Earth are Pleiadeans. They too are very Human like in both appearance and biology. There are also a Silicon based life form called "Conformers", they use a sort of telepathic projection to make themselves look any way they wish for short periods of time. You probably wouldn't see many of them on Earth since the Terrestrial environment is somewhat hazerdous to them.


Etharzi od Oma.

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
It is not an easy thing to learn you are not what everyone says you are.

True, but you must have also felt different at some level? Have you spent previous lifetimes on earth, or is this your first one?

Andromds (my species) are a human looking race that grow to about twice the height of a human, other than that there are little differences. Our DNA is also quite simular to Humans, so we could easily pass as one of you, even with a moderately close look. So, no; no mental projection required, accept for full grown adults, and then it is the application of some sort of technology.

So, there is some technology that makes you seem shorter than you really are? Is there any genetic modification that keeps you w/in normal human height range?

Other species ... the only others I am aware of here on Earth are Pleiadeans. They too are very Human like in both appearance and biology. There are also a Silicon based life form called "Conformers", they use a sort of telepathic projection to make themselves look any way they wish for short periods of time.

Yes, that is true about Pleiadeans. I haven't heard of "Conformers" before. Do you have any links you could recommend? My personal feeling is that there are probably different races wearing human spacesuits. They probably don't even know themselves that they're different.

Do you communicate w/ your people solely thru meditation, or do you use any other methods?

Its not just ple'o'sha'n here. But do you think that there phasing technology is what people mistake as 5D or higher? I do believe in the multiverse, but have witnessed the phasing many times now. Those from the constellation of Taurus, amongst others, are here too, and theyre between 7 1/2-8 feet tall unless their phasing changes your perception of height which it may, so they could be taller. I still think height may be perceptional, something they can change in us.

Originally posted by someotherguy

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
It is not an easy thing to learn you are not what everyone says you are.

True, but you must have also felt different at some level? Have you spent previous lifetimes on earth, or is this your first one?

Felt different? Yes, to this day, though over the years some of the "sharpness" has diminished.

No, this is my first time on this planet, previous lifetimes were all in the Andromeda galaxy, though as different species.

Andromds (my species) are a human looking race that grow to about twice the height of a human, other than that there are little differences. Our DNA is also quite simular to Humans, so we could easily pass as one of you, even with a moderately close look. So, no; no mental projection required, accept for full grown adults, and then it is the application of some sort of technology.

So, there is some technology that makes you seem shorter than you really are? Is there any genetic modification that keeps you w/in normal human height range?

Yes, technology, as I understand it, it is built into the clothing.

As I understand it, my genetics were modified to make me appear to age faster, perhaps grow a bit faster for a time. But, at 5 and a half feet, I'm normal height my my age group.

Other species ... the only others I am aware of here on Earth are Pleiadeans. They too are very Human like in both appearance and biology. There are also a Silicon based life form called "Conformers", they use a sort of telepathic projection to make themselves look any way they wish for short periods of time.

Yes, that is true about Pleiadeans. I haven't heard of "Conformers" before. Do you have any links you could recommend? My personal feeling is that there are probably different races wearing human spacesuits. They probably don't even know themselves that they're different.

Do you communicate w/ your people solely thru meditation, or do you use any other methods?

I'm learning to use telepathy, a more normal for my people, though not so much in the young ... it's something that gets better with practice. At first I did use meditation quite a lot, but over the past 15 years that has changed to more telepathy. I still use meditation from time to time, though it is a bit difficult lately. Meditation requires a more "dedicated connection" than telepathy, and Mother has more demands on her time now.

Etharzi od Oma

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

No, this is my first time on this planet, previous lifetimes were all in the Andromeda galaxy, though as different species.

Do you know what sort of species?

I'm learning to use telepathy, a more normal for my people, though not so much in the young ... it's something that gets better with practice. At first I did use meditation quite a lot, but over the past 15 years that has changed to more telepathy.

So, when you communicate telepathically w/ them, is it like talking on the phone, or is more that you get thoughts sent to you? I don't know if that makes sense... Do you mind describing what it's like?

Originally posted by someotherguy

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

No, this is my first time on this planet, previous lifetimes were all in the Andromeda galaxy, though as different species.

Do you know what sort of species?

Mostly "Wolf" derived humanoids at various stages of evolution. There is also some time spent as "cat", "Ape", and "Reptile". Not all Humanoid ...

I'm learning to use telepathy, a more normal for my people, though not so much in the young ... it's something that gets better with practice. At first I did use meditation quite a lot, but over the past 15 years that has changed to more telepathy.

So, when you communicate telepathically w/ them, is it like talking on the phone, or is more that you get thoughts sent to you? I don't know if that makes sense... Do you mind describing what it's like?

Some of both ... Often its like having a conversation with someone using speech, this may be the most common. Other times I get large amounts of information almost as a "download". However, even when "conversing" I do get much more info than can be processed quickly.

Large amounts of data usually require that I spend some time "alone" trying to "translate" it into terms I can understand. The problem, as I see it, is that most of this is received on a sub-conscious level, and than has to be moved to a conscious level to be understood and explained. When doing that I have to rely on ideas and concepts that I already have/know. This doesn't always work out well, so some information remains "unprocessed" until I learn more. I have also found that things like names are difficult, since names are usually a construct in a specific language and if I don't know the language ...

Other issues I've found is that when using telepathy, One's own ideas, experiences, knowledge, etc. have a strong tendency to "color" the interpretation. This is something that takes experience (practice) to over come.

And, there you have it ... a perfectly clear bowl of mud ...trying to explain and describe thise things can be difficult at times. Trying to understand what is going on within One's self never gets any eaiser ... even after 40 years of explaining all sort of task to a computer.

Etharzi od Oma.

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
Other times I get large amounts of information almost as a "download". However, even when "conversing" I do get much more info than can be processed quickly.

Large amounts of data usually require that I spend some time "alone" trying to "translate" it into terms I can understand. The problem, as I see it, is that most of this is received on a sub-conscious level, and than has to be moved to a conscious level to be understood and explained.

I know exactly what you mean. I feel like I've gotten data downloads, too, that either seem like "inspiration" or sudden insight into something. Sometimes it seems like I have to "pull" that information out of the subconscious & into conscious awareness. It seems like I'm sometimes drawn to certain articles or interviews to do that. I hope that makes sense. lol

What about the feline races and Sirians?

I'm aware of the pleadians, and Orions alright. They can pass as us. Since humanity is actually the sons and daughters of all the major humanoid races in this galaxy. Our species is very racially mixed for this reason.

And what about venusians. Also i have one question what about the Orion humanoids which are reptilian looking humanoids, which are blueblooded I beleive. I know most of the bloodline elites have this blood, but I think i've passed a few people "in my area and streetwise as them" How can they stay in human form all the time. Is it possible that these can live amongst the rest of us without knowing.

My personal experience on Sirius is a mixed system between those who support the annanuki or facism and positives/neturals. Both in terms of non terran human people, and in terms of Felines. There are also the cretecean blue race the dogons speak of and reptillians there.

Sirius is also a major star gateway and you are right they are so many races their. Because of their mixed race groups, it gives sirius such a universal conciousnes awareness to this galaxy.