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Topic started on 31-8-2009 @ 03:12 AM by Rams59lb

The growing use of private armies not only subjects target populations to savage warfare but makes it easier for the White House to subvert domestic public opinion and wage wars.

Americans are less inclined to oppose a war that is being fought by hired foreign mercenaries, even when their own tax dollars are being squandered to fund it.

“The increasing use of contractors, private forces, or, as some would say, ‘mercenaries’ makes wars easier to begin and to fight---it just takes money and not the citizenry,” said Michael Ratner, of New York’s Center for Constitutional Rights. “To the extent a population is called upon to go to war, there is resistance, a necessary resistance to prevent wars of self-aggrandizement, foolish wars, and, in the case of the United States, hegemonic imperialist wars.”

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I believe it is very important to pay very much attention to things stated in this article, stuff like "Americans are less inclined to oppose a war that is being fought by hired foreign mercenaries" and on this note I believe it's things like this that should give you strength to not fold in your willingness to stand up against them.

"It is money from taxpayer’s pockets that has made these shadow armies great" is another statement that should be a wake up call to where our money "Tax Dollars" are being wasted in this elitist waged war. They are counting on us to give up as most people did during Katrina, I know most of you will say that Katrina was a different story and I contend that it isn't so different in the way they disarmed every person and arrested people who didn't go along with their control.

The bottomline is know that you are not alone, if you choice to fight for your freedom then you will not be alone but if you choice to assist them in taking total control of this country they please know that you will answer for it in your own time.

I'm not calling for war, I'm hoping for enough information to come out and wake as many people up to what is obviously coming our way.

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reply posted on 31-8-2009 @ 05:23 AM by truthquest

reply to post by Rams59lb

Aren't all armies mercenary armies? Involuntary servitude is illegal around the whole planet, and nearly all countries have salaried armies.

In addition, I have yet to figure out where government's get their magical authority from to be considered more than just another corporation. I think the rule is, if you sucker enough people into believing you are a non-profit corporation and you also have an army that dominates the others within your region, then you are the magic corporation in that you are called "government". I say magic because somehow the vast majority of the population (97%+) has a spell cast over them to believe corporations like The United States of America should have special powers that corporations like Ebay and the Mormon church don't... most important of which is that they don't have to follow their own rules. I'm not saying we should have anarchy but rather that corporations like United States of America are no different from any other "non-profit" corporation.

So for those two reasons there are no non-mercenary armies I know of except for the US militia groups. I don't know if militias are also in other countries but the only armies I trust across the whole world to actually keep me safe from the bad guys are the US militias. Militia positions are mostly unpaid positions where people join them because they want to protect their fellow people, and all those who join are entirely people who value freedom to an extreme degree.

What I do find extremely threatening are robot armies. Not human-sized robot armies but rather nano-sized robot swarms. At some point in the 2020's I believe it will be possible for just about any one with just a few years of studying to engineer robot cells that are very deadly and capable of being produced in a swarm configuration that potentially destroys all human-kind due to self-replication. Now that is the kind of army that concerns me, though I would hope equally high-tech defenses would keep up with what is possible.

reply posted on 31-8-2009 @ 05:29 AM by Vipassana

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Uh, What?? Mercenary armies are private corporations. Although it has many features like a corporation, The United States Government and Military are not really corporations aimed solely at profit. They are dominant because they have a monopoly of violence within a given region. 2ndly, there is no such thing as a "non-profit" corporation. A company becomes incorporated so that it can make money for its share holders. Furthermore, many governmental entities project force and power far beyond the scope and capability of mercenary units such as blackwater.

reply posted on 31-8-2009 @ 05:33 AM by Silver Shadow

It depend if you live in a country like Israel or America that just loves war, deadly force, killing and death.

But if you live in a peaceful civilized country, a career in the military to learn a trade, and get some discipline at an impressionable age may not altogether a bad thing.

War is always bad, but a military career in peace time is nothing to despise.

reply posted on 31-8-2009 @ 06:17 AM by pieman

Originally posted by Silver Shadow
But if you live in a peaceful civilized country, a career in the military to learn a trade, and get some discipline at an impressionable age may not altogether a bad thing.

i hate this propagandist myth.

the aim of 90% military training is to strip the soldier of their personal identity and turn them into someone who unquestioningly allows others to designate the correct course of action and dictate their morality.

really sophisticated techniques are used to instill this ideology into young impressionable people and there is no attempt to put this right before releasing them back into society.

soldiers have a rotten time trying to readjust to civilian life after leaving the military. that's why they so often end up in some other military type profession, whether it be police, security or mercenary. they go into these organizations and absorb the culture existant. this is disastrous.

there is nothing altogether good about military discipline.

[edit on 31/8/09 by pieman]

reply posted on 31-8-2009 @ 07:21 AM by Asktheanimals

I couldn't agree more with the OP. Mercenary armies are a huge
problem and I have a solution: You know how the Obama
administration took over the auto industry?

Do the same thing with Xe, KBR and all other military contractors.
NATIONALIZE THEM. It would cost less and put them under some
kind of authority where they would have to abide by the rules of
the military. Apply the uniform code of military justice to them.

Truthquest has a very good point about robotic armies but that is
much closer than 2020 I'm afraid. More like 2012 to be realistic.

War has to go but I'm not willing to go under a NWO to achieve
that end so the question is how do remain free and independant
nations without resorting to war? We better get busy on answering
that or we will have a NWO, like it or not. Great thread. S&F!

reply posted on 31-8-2009 @ 08:28 AM by Rams59lb

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Although I understand what your trying to say by doing with them as we've done with the Auto Industry but Obama plans to use them on our own soil as it is and I don't main used them to like give J-walking tickets. Our Governement knows that these groups of paid thugs are more them willing to shot us as we complain where our soldiers as least most of them don't want to. Great post

reply posted on 31-8-2009 @ 08:28 PM by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi

Originally posted by pieman

Originally posted by Silver Shadow
But if you live in a peaceful civilized country, a career in the military to learn a trade, and get some discipline at an impressionable age may not altogether a bad thing.

i hate this propagandist myth.
[edit on 31/8/09 by pieman]

Propaganda to you maybe. The entire point of the Canadian military is to produce the best trained soldiers in the world. They'll invest millions of dollars into your training and education if you'll stick by them. I know people that left the streets and ended up become engineers because of our military.

Of course I could care less about more education when I join the army. I'm there to fight, not to create a better civilian life that I already hate.

reply posted on 8-9-2009 @ 09:15 PM by truthquest

Originally posted by Vipassana
reply to post by truthquest

Uh, What?? Mercenary armies are private corporations. Although it has many features like a corporation, The United States Government and Military are not really corporations aimed solely at profit. They are dominant because they have a monopoly of violence within a given region. 2ndly, there is no such thing as a "non-profit" corporation. A company becomes incorporated so that it can make money for its share holders. Furthermore, many governmental entities project force and power far beyond the scope and capability of mercenary units such as blackwater.

First I would disagree with your premise that the United States of America is not a for-profit corporation. It is controlled by lobbyists who in turn are controlled by for-profit corporations. Even though its stated goals are not profit its current goals are profit.

Try not paying your taxes and see how loving and protecting your government is to you. Would your brother or sister kidnap you and throw you in a tiny room if you refused to pay taxes? No, but government would and would have zero remorse or care for the trouble. In fact the judge would sleep even better the night he has you punished, because he threw someone who dares disobey his edicts in prison. Already we have first-hand knowledge of what happens when you give a group with evil motives a for-profit army. They form something called "government" and extort money from its citizens in the exact format of a mafia protection racket.

So yes, for-profit armies are bad and what they do is form "governments" that are "for your protection". We are living in the reality you so fear. So no, the addition of more for-profit armies in addition to the for-profit US Army, US Navy, and US Air Force does not concern me because the worst has already happened.

I really don't see why it makes a difference whether the corporation is private or public. Was the Nazi army a private or public army? Was the Russian army of the cold war with its nuclear weapons private or public? Except I do see one huge difference Given that all the nukes are currently in the hands of public armies, I really can't imagine being more concerned about private armies than the public armies with their nuclear weapons.

So my concern is "public" armies that are not really public but are controlled by lobbyists and special interest groups, because those are the armies with the nukes. while the "private" armies are still under government control.

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