reply to post by thedman
Now here is the reason I do not get involved with these sort of debates, this thread contains some good talking points, debate them and not your
perception of the persons state of mind, I can tell you lost family or friends and for that you have my deepest condolences, your pent up
aggressiveness needs a release, someone to blame, buddy, these are not the people to take it out on, it has got to the state here that if side `A`
states something - side `B`retaliates, discussion (and correct me if I am wrong here, is the sole intent of a forum) is not on the agenda but bigotry
has took it`s place, I see many threads that have started with good intent and some interesting topics up for discussion, that get turned into war
I am harping on here my apologies for that, but I have experienced this sort of integration in probably one of the worse case scenarios you can
possibly imagine, born and bred in Northern Ireland and had no religious inclinations whatsoever, met and married and still are to this day a
beautiful woman from a very staunch Catholic family, they took me in and made me feel very much part of the family, until... We were young, times were
hard, especially after our first born hitting home hard as to my slip shod and erratic work routine, my employment status was grim and the chance of a
regular wage were slimmer, so I joined the British Army.
I have never experienced anything like it in my life and i`ve had a few encounters with some very nasty customers, but this, was different, I am lost
for words how I could even begin to explain it, my young daughter`s nieces and nephews would spit at her when she lay asleep in her pram, they stopped
talking to us completely, and in they end they drove us away, never seen nor heard from them since.
Sectarianism is a terrible thing, brought about by governments to split the voting public one way or another, telling 50% of the populace what they
want to hear, whilst the other 50% what they do not, either way the government always wins, ever stop to think why the governments of both the U.S.A.
and U.K. opened the flood gates for Muslims etc, then went out of their way to make sure they were more than welcome, children are our future cannot
deny this and what have our future witnessed the last 20 years or so?, and what affect does it have on them?.
You cannot segregate if there is no opposing faction.
I was going to post a reply with a few pointers, again I apologize for my inherent ramblings, I will end though with a thought provoking analysis
brought about by those questions that cannot be answered and governments.
My earlier words regarding governments and 50% of the population, how does that work when both sides have terrorist factions, Simple, Sinn Fein and
Gerry Adams one side, and the U.D.P. and Ian Paisley on the other, here we have the two most powerful politicians in Northern Ireland, sat around a
table thrashing out a peace deal whilst both basically, instantly relaying the deals on offer to their respective terrorist factions and asking are
they happy with it!!.
The I.R.A. had to be the most feared and well organized terrorist cell the world has ever seen, these guys make Al Qaeda look like the cast from
Sesame Street, suicide bombings by proxy, why waste your own live when you can make a sworn enemy drive the vehicle in full knowledge you have
kidnapped his wive and kids for you?. Their knowledge of weapons, bomb making, bomb placements, avoiding counter terrorist agents to travel from
Ireland to London etc, the organization and discipline to which they vehemently adhered to, was taught to them by whom?.