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Topic started on 30-8-2009 @ 11:58 AM by Dimitry

57% Would Like to Replace Entire Congress


www.rasmussenreport s.com
If they could vote to keep or replace the entire Congress, just 25% of voters nationwide would keep the current batch of legislators.

Fifty-nine percent (59%) of Americans believe that when members of Congress meet with regulators and other government officials, they do so to help their friends and hurt their political opponents. Most believe that’s why politicians are able to solicit contributions from business leaders.
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reply posted on 31-8-2009 @ 11:36 AM by Doc Velocity
Originally posted by RoofMonkey
We have a term limiting process. It's called voting.


Wrong. Voting only puts the criminals into office, voting doesn't remove them from office.

Once these crooks reach high office, they couldn't care less about the people who elected them. Once elected, they make their "connections," receive bribes from lobbyists, and their re-election campaigns receive matching funds from the federal government itself.

How the hell do you think a Southern Democrat Klansman — Sen. Robert "White Nigger" Byrd (D/WV) — has managed to remain in the Senate for decades? And how does a shameless, rollicking drunk misogynist — Sen. Ted Kennedy (D/MASS) — remain in office for decades?

It doesn't speak well of voters who consistently re-elect murderers, drunks, rapists and klansmen, does it?

I have more faith in people than that. These crooks are not being re-elected; instead, they're buying the elections. They have the power, and they have the money, and they're crooked as hell — once they're voted into office, that's all they need. You couldn't extract them with a goddamned pick-axe.

That is where term limits come in. We limit the President to 2 terms, why not every member of Congress, as well? And, as long as we're limiting the Executive and Legislative Branches, we might as well limit terms on the Judiciary, also. Whoever dreamed up serving in the Supreme Court for life was out of his mind.

— Doc Velocity



reply posted on 31-8-2009 @ 01:01 PM by Mak Manto
reply to post by Moshpet



Heh, those kind of people can take a "Rush" stance.

He wants Obama to fail, BUT he doesn't want to see America fail.

Lol.


reply posted on 31-8-2009 @ 01:18 PM by fraterormus
The ultimate questions this brings up are:

1.) Would that 57% put their money where their mouth is and actually get off their lazy derrieres and go to the voting booth and vote (or drop their Mail-In Ballot off in the Mailbox)? Realistically, it is most probable that most of that 57% wouldn't. This poll represents the disenfranchised who are far less likely to bother to vote in the first place.

2.) So, who would that 57% rather have in Congress? The other Party? Someone with a different name who is going to resort to the same Business as usual, SNAFU? Every politician spouts the "Change" rhetoric. Every politician makes empty promises. What happens when they, just like those who are in Congress now, don't change anything and don't follow through on their promises? Maybe it's not the Members of Congress that are broke, but the entire Political System that is broke.

3.) Since when did Politics have to be "popular"? Sometimes the best decisions are going to be unpopular and have it's share of critics and opposition. The possibility of the United States entering WWII on the side of the Allies was horribly unpopular until Pearl Harbor, and even after Pearl Harbor there were still many who believed we chose to side with the wrong side. Politics isn't a Cult of Personality. Popular Vote isn't meant literally. Voting for our Congresspersons isn't supposed to be like voting for Class President in High School!

4.) Does that 57% disagree with EVERYTHING EVERY SINGLE Congressperson has done? Probably not! Do we have to agree 100% with every decision each person makes? Sorry, but our system of Government doesn't work that way. There is a certain level of Trust that is involved when we vote a candidate into Public Office. We trust in them to make the best informed decisions in the Public Interest. Sometimes we might not agree with every choice they have made, but you take the good with the bad. Likewise, we only get a decision over our State's Representatives and our 2 Senators. If you have an issue with some other State's Representatives and Senators, that's really none of your gosh-darn beeswax! You have to live with it, just as the people of that State have to live with your State's choice.

5.) In order to destroy, one must first replace (to paraphrase Caussidiere). If the majority of a small cross-section poll don't like all of the Congress, then the majority must come up with a better solution that will supposedly work better. You can't just throw out the baby with the bathwater. Give us a better solution that the majority of Americans can get behind. Offer a solution rather than ask to throw everyone out!

6.) "Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit" or "No pity for the majority"! The majority voted these officials into office. The majority then carries the blame and shame for them. How convenient that the majority would whine and complain for the choices of the majority! The majority made their bed, now they have to sleep in it!


reply posted on 31-8-2009 @ 01:24 PM by Doc Velocity
Originally posted by Moshpet
I do wish they'd get off the 'get rid of Obama' attitude and focus on fixing the country.


Obama isn't the problem. Obama is amply demonstrating that he's unqualified to hold the office of president, and he'll get rid of himself in due course.

The problem is Congress, both houses of Congress, with their divisive partisan politics, their sloppy legislation, and their outright opposition to the will of the American people. I mean, damn, these "Town Hall Meetings" on Heathcare Reform have showcased everything that's wrong with the Congressional elite — when American citizens stand up, face-to-face, and rip these career politicians a new butthole, our esteemed Congressional leaders go running home to Washington, nursing their black eyes and bruised egos, calling it a conspiracy, the work of Nazis and worse.

In short, the Congressional elite are completely out-of-touch with America.

Make no mistake, I'm not pointing fingers only at the inept and bumbling Democrats — the Republicans pulled the same holier-than-thou routine during the so-called Immigration Reform debacle, and John McCain was the worst offender (next to that idiot Ted Kennedy).

So, no, I don't give a damn about Barack Hussein Obama. He's destroying his own political reputation just fine, all by himself. It's those clowns in Congress who pose the real threat to America and American liberty.

Of course, up until a few months ago, Obama was one of those Congressional clowns.

— Doc Velocity
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