Originally posted by vehemes terra eternus
Skadi, what about what HASN'T been presented??????????
80+ security tapes have been confiscated. One was taken from a gas station by the FBI a few minutes after the attack.
Why would these tapes NOT be released
What about it?
What is more interesting to me is the lack of private and media camera footage. After all, D.C. is a major tourist and political, diplomatic, and
busines destination. But the private CCTV camera videos, who knows why they aren't being released. But to me, that is not an important issue.
Instead they release a few frames that show the tip of something and then a big fireball. A very inconclusive video.
To me, it is a moot point video. Slow frame speed. But to me, it proves nothing either way.
Someone please correct me if I am wrong but I remember the excuse for not releasing the 80+!!!! tapes was "We do not want to give the
terrorists more information."
Something like that. Lame excuse, yes. Had they released them, then we could have long ago put this no plane nonsense to rest (well, maybe a good
chunk of it). Maybe thats part of the deal, though. Once the no-plane theories broke out, perhaps they wanted to further fuel them to hide other
Then there is the 'hole in the wall' with NO wing damage and NO damage where the engines should have hit
A fallacy of many no planers. There was damage. Simply looking at a few photos and saying "oh, no plane, no damage" is not convincing. When I saw
the pictures of Pentagon damage fior the first time, I was not expecting to see a big plane or much of anything, so I don't get why some people do.
There was wing and engine damage. However, even a little research and a little bit of thought will tell you that the photos are taken from varying
distance and angles. Thus, there is alot not seen, and with all the fire, smoke, and building damage, its hard to recognize anything in those photos,
including the building. Given other factors, such as the type of building, the plane, speed, materials, ect, I don't see anything that makes me think
anything other than a 757 or similar sized and shaped onject slammed into the building.
If the OS believers don't want to hear it from their fellow ATSers then let the Major General of Intelligence (now retired I think) break it
down for you.
But I am not an "OS believer". I believe that there was some sort of conspiracy on 9/11. However, I discern between what I see as legitimate
questions and puzzles from what seems to be ill-informed or dubious information or theories.
It has been mentioned by others but it is worth stating again. 2.3 TRILLION! dollars is announced as "missing" from the Pentagon one day
before a 757 (that no one has seen footage of) somehow slams directly into the ACCOUNTING OFFICES and destroys the files which may have shown where
the $$$ went, how convenient.........
Video footage, no. Thousands of eyewitnesses, however, saw the plane and saw it crash. I don't need a video to confirm that. There are hundreds of
incidents of disaster or major events that have never been caught on tape, yet no one doubts they happened, because people have seen it happen, and
there was more proof that it happened.
I too would love to hear some eye witness testimonies if anyone has any links. From what I have seen and researched there is just NO WAY a 757
folded its wings and engines up behind itself and struck the Pentagon.
Those are just two, there are tons more.
Whether you believe them or not is your choice. Most no-planers choose to believe that all eyewitnesses were paid secret government spooks or
whatever, so if you are quite set in believing no plane hit the pentagon, then it is unlikely you will bel;ieve in anything.
But, since you asked, theres some.