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Hard work doesn't pay. Ha ha. The jokes on me

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posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 03:32 AM
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Work hard and you'll get ahead. Build a better future for you and you're family.

Really?

I think not.

Over taxed, over worked and under freakin appreciated by arrogant and stupid whinners. That's what I think hard work gets you.

I'm wondering if the federal reserve is paying people to go out of business and lay low while maintaining thier standard of living.


[edit on 30-8-2009 by In nothing we trust]




posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 03:46 AM
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Originally posted by In nothing we trust

I'm wondering if the federal reserve is paying people to go out of business and lay low while maintaining thier standard of living.



In Canada, the government pays companies to not make anything.

Then the companies pay the workers to not do anything.

The employees buy things and pay taxes on those things.

The employees also pay taxes on that money from the government - this they give to the government who use the tax revenue to pay the companies to not make anything and pay the employees to not do anything. (The governments also taxes this money)

The employees buy things and pay taxes on those things.... and on it goes.....

They say it'll help us get out of the 'recession' faster by helping companies stay in business.



*I'd tell you the name of the program, but it is such a sweet deal I don't want to ruin it for anyone



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posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 03:55 AM
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Originally posted by Exuberant1

Originally posted by In nothing we trust

I'm wondering if the federal reserve is paying people to go out of business and lay low while maintaining thier standard of living.



In Canada, the government pays companies to not make anything.

Then the companies pay the workers to not do anything.


THe U.S. government does similar things.

It encourges people to bow down to the powers that be and do as they wish. It encouges a spirit of submissiveness and servitude. People will do anything for money, including sell out thier values and ideals.

They will sell themselves right into slavery.

[edit on 30-8-2009 by In nothing we trust]



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 04:19 AM
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Hard work makes your masters rich.

The problem is that you're all okay with that.

As soon as you all refuse to play the game, the slave game will end.

Refuse to be a slave.



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 04:25 AM
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Originally posted by DezertSkies

As soon as you all refuse to play the game, the slave game will end.


Should I stop working hard and just sell out then?

Once I sell out won't I lose all my ability to stand against them?

Unfortunatly, they need me and I hope they die.

Sounds like a problem for them.

You want it for free, I say [SNIP] you.

Let's all die. You're a worm.

My kids are being taught to dominate the survivors.

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posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 04:34 AM
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posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 04:35 AM
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Are you standing against them now?

If you're young and don't have any children to care for, you can choose not to play the game. You can live in a tent if you have to, work just enough to afford the necessities and stay out of debt.



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 04:39 AM
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Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe

Are you standing against them now?


Yes and no.

We have a love-hate relationship at present.

I support them, they support me. I hate them, they hate me.

Catch 22.


[edit on 30-8-2009 by In nothing we trust]



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 05:53 AM
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It seems to me that this "slavery" people talk about is mostly a result of debt. If you live your life without incurring debt, you don't become enslaved.

Most people regard credit as a necessity. Without credit, how can you buy a car, how can you buy a house? Well, often you can't. You have to have the money before you buy those things, unless you have credit. Unfortunately, credit became a huge scam that robbed people of their money, their cars, their homes, everything they had.

Once you are on the hook, once you owe money, you work for your creditors. You know that if you slack off, you won't be able to pay your debts, and then you'll lose whatever it is you bought on credit. You've become a slave to the creditors.

Waiting until you have the money to pay for things may sound like a hardship, but is it really? We all want things right now, but is that worth becoming enslaved? Some would say that it's not worth it. Freedom has a price. One of the prices is waiting until you have the money, before buying things.

You may still wind up working hard. After all, even if you pay as you go without using credit, you still need money for things. But at least now it's a choice, not something you must do because you owe so much money.



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 06:03 AM
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I want to say to you that hard work does pay. Keep on doing that - really, it does pay!



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 06:04 AM
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Originally posted by chiron613
Waiting until you have the money to pay for things may sound like a hardship, but is it really?


Ever hear of inflation?

Our monetary system punishes those who save their reserve notes.

Inflation: The hidden tax.



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 06:14 AM
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Originally posted by Exuberant1

Ever hear of inflation?

Our monetary system punishes those who save their reserve notes.

Inflation: The hidden tax.



Ever hear of an organized underground effort designed to keep you in your place, with the intention of stealing your goods and services at below market rates and keep you from inflating your prices. In fact they are working together to deflate prices, by false manipulation of the market, to favor thier situation.


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posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 06:35 AM
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Agreed.

That is also one of the reasons government pumps so much money into ridiculously expensive programs and projects.

It is all about keeping the money supply in the hands of the paupers from growing to fast.

If the government can spend the money as fast as they inflate it, it takes longer for us to notice and it keeps the appearance of inflation at a minimum.


*Hehe, Just imagine what would happen to prices if the money from the various bailout/stimulus/heists went to the people and we all got over a million dollars....

...A loaf of bread would cost a few hundred bucks, maybe more.


(I'm not even gonna imagine what a good steak would cost if that happened)



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 06:39 AM
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Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by DezertSkies

As soon as you all refuse to play the game, the slave game will end.


Should I stop working hard and just sell out then?

Once I sell out won't I lose all my ability to stand against them?

Unfortunatly, they need me and I hope they die.

Sounds like a problem for them.

You want it for free, I say fuc* you.

Let's all die. You're a worm.

My kids are being taught to dominate the survivors.

[edit on 30-8-2009 by In nothing we trust]


Who needs you?

Ever heard of "work smart not hard"?
And you're already selling out if you play the game. The way out is to not sell your soul or their worthless money, but to work for yourself.

The solution is simple but it involves people taking some responsibility for their actions. If everyone decided that they're not going to die making the owners of the game richer, and took it upon themselves to work for their benefit and not that of the slavemaster.

And having kids in this world is massively irresponsible until you fix things
If the world were your car, you'd have one lug nut left holding your wheels on, barely. What you should do is pull over and fix it. That would be responsible action. Having kids in this world is like putting them all in your broken car and going as fast as you can into oblivion. Your kids don't stand a snowball's chance is south hell in summer of not living in the absolute nightmare you've created for them through your inattention to responsibility.

Right now in this current day and age if you're not a blind slave, you're cursed with life in a dead world. The only comfort is that i won't live forever and some day i'll be free of this hell you irresponsible idiots have turned eden into.



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 06:45 AM
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we are definitely a nation of underpaid slaves. my husband has worked the same job his whole life, changed five years ago to hourly paid instead of sub contractor. They sent him out of town, about 3 hours away to be back home on friday. friday they decided he needed to go 11 hours away and he could come home monday. Monday they pull all the other workers and left him to fix all the screw ups to be home wednesday he ended up home on saturday. So they lied to him to get him over there because he would not have gone.
When he got his pay check they were also suppose to settle 26 hours back pay that they owed him.
He turned in 148 hours for a 88 hour pay period. they paid 110 hours reg and 34 hours over time.
stated that the back pay was included and oh by the way we are only paying half time on drive time this is not something we were told prior or we would not have gone. when i called dept of wage and hour I was told that they could change conditions of the work place, rate of pay and date of pay at their discretion. so i asked them you mean that if they wanted to cut his 20.00 and hour pay to min wage of 7.25 they could and the answer was yes. they could do this with out tell us. My only hope is that we do have a claim because the way they billed it is fraudulant they did not bill backwages and they incorperated drive time on top of reg and did not figure they had to pay over time on but they do.
so I guess they just get to get audited for the last 2 years - but we are out 831.00



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 07:09 AM
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I think you have to stand up and live, or you have to stand up and die.



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 07:27 AM
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The problem is that Capitalism works best--er, is the fairest in a small town, closed, narrow scope, did I mention small? environment.

When you have a town of say 500 and here is no inter-connectivity with other towns and businesses and people pay in gold or barter and there is no interference on the side of business (or one business over the other) by government then you will see an equitable system of hard work = rewards. The last time you saw that sort of thing was the mid-1800s but the myth lives on.

You're acting like the problem is with the government, and you're not getting that business is government. Lobbyists rule Washington, global financial conglomerates rule Washington. What they're pushing isn't "socialism". No, no, no!

Socialism would be the government controls all money and industry with no one individual making more money than the next. What they're proposing is worse than socialism because it rewards a few people with incredible wealth, asks us to pay for them to live as they choose, while the rest of us lower our standards of living.

Name one politician in the last fifty years that helped the little guy. They may platform like they want to help us, but they don't. They help their friends.

Trickle down economics didn't trickle down. The bonuses and funds stayed at the top.
Supply side economics still doesn't help the worker.

We're too big, too embedded to ever go back to a sustainable, fair system. I hope they're right about the sunspots and solar radiation of 2012 knocking out all electronic communication. That will change things, but really nothing else...



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 07:29 AM
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my favorite video of the week

sorry I can't help but post it
you've probably seen it a dozen times already but in any event ...



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posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 07:48 AM
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Thats what I think is so odd with my situation. This is a small town nothing like this happens. none of the local businesses that we have ever worked with would have done this. But these people are implants and they believe we are all hicks with no education which is not true. We are looking forward to the audit knowing that we will be fired for it, simply for the fact that we know of other issues illegality that they have done. and if nothing else the audit will be a total pain in the butt for them. even if we don't get paid what they owe us. I guess we get the satisfaction of the fact they they will loose that much or more in time and money spent to deal with the audit. I don't expect the govt to fix it that would just be idiocy on my part, I just want them put out just as they have put us out and caused difficulties, i wish them the same.



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 08:06 AM
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Originally posted by Exuberant1

Originally posted by In nothing we trust

I'm wondering if the federal reserve is paying people to go out of business and lay low while maintaining thier standard of living.



In Canada, the government pays companies to not make anything.

Then the companies pay the workers to not do anything.

The employees buy things and pay taxes on those things.

The employees also pay taxes on that money from the government - this they give to the government who use the tax revenue to pay the companies to not make anything and pay the employees to not do anything. (The governments also taxes this money)

The employees buy things and pay taxes on those things.... and on it goes.....

They say it'll help us get out of the 'recession' faster by helping companies stay in business.



*I'd tell you the name of the program, but it is such a sweet deal I don't want to ruin it for anyone



[edit on 30-8-2009 by Exuberant1]




Good God! I'm in the wrong country!



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