Lockerbie bomber 'set free for oil'

reply to post by detachedindividual


Yes the individuals of the US government are poorly informed about Islamic terrorism, this is true. But to apologize for terrorism isn't the way to go with this. To blame anyone other than Islamic terrorism who has claimed responsibility is wrong.

It is clear that Islamic terrorists have and will continue to down aircraft. Why?
The idea that someone who downed an aircraft was released is incomprehensible.

Originally posted by detachedindividual

...And if you deny you went in for Oil, explain why America's first job was to secure the Oil fields, while the hospitals, museums, schools were left to be looted and destroyed.

I spent the better part of 1983 watching the lumps of crude oil drift by in the Persian Gulf. Seems that a rig belonging to Kuwait was shot by either Iran or Iraq... a confusing time.

Sadam did not have a very good record with oil fields... especially when he was loosing.

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They aren't very easy to clean up... and harder still to put out. So... yeah, I can see the logic of not having to go through that whole mess again. Most of the oil well fire fighting expertise was needed to extinguish Kuwait... and that's a pretty expensive operation. Messy, and a huge PR hit.





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[edit on 31-8-2009 by RoofMonkey]

reply to post by RoofMonkey


Will happen in Saudi soon.
They just had an assassination attempt on Deputy Interior Minister Prince Mohammed bin Nayef
"KHOBAR, Saudi Arabia: Saudi Arabia has tightened security at oil facilities after the country's anti-terror chief, Deputy Interior Minister Prince Mohammed bin Nayef, escaped a suicide attack, guards at Abqaiq, the world's biggest oil processing plant, said yesterday.... "

The bomber had explosives hidden in his anus.
www.gulf-daily-news.com...

Also expected is Syria to be attacked...

reply to post by pavil


Yeh, and have you read some of the other posts.

Oh, and the American govt would never do such dishonest, despicable and manipulative acts. Many of us here in Scotland have suspected that there was dirty dealings regarding Lockerbie since day one!

For a minute there I thought I was on a conspiracy site!

Now, try to imagine how i do feel knowing that italian Prime Minister not only went there, but also sent there Frecce Tricolori, to honor some international criminal in the name of Italy. Abdel Basset Ali al-Megrahi is NOT some victim of some strange work made by secrets services: he IS a terroris sent by another terrorist to make some terrorist attack, end of story.
243 passengers and 16 crew members (plus eleven people in Lockerbie) lost their lives and what do they do? They free him, of course, no, let's even celebrate the event. This story is disgusting, i'm in complete agreement with the OP and hope that they will pay in some alternative way, that guy does not deserve to live

One doctor diagnosed the guy as terminal. Then he was greeted as a hero in Libya. Just goes to show how infiltrated the West is and how much we will fold when the time comes.

reply to post by maya27


What exactly are you saying??? Libya has pretty much admitted that it did the deed, is Libya somehow under the U.S. payroll??? We must have been paying Qaddafi a lot, since we killed some of his family in one of our air raids. He is a very dedicated CIA operative.

Jeez.

Myths that Osama bin Laden and Ghadaffi were CIA agents are... myths.
While the CIA did supply weapons and training there was no employment of these guys. Instead we made money off of them when they were fighting wars within their regions, so technically they hired us.

Meanwhile since we left the employee of those bastards they have still kept up their agenda and continue terrorism, destruction and fighting. We are next.

reply to post by maya27


Shh dont you know, us in Scotland are not meant to have an opinion, a higher moralle sense of values, or compassion according to some Americans.

Pitty some do not remember that there were Scottish people whom were killed also in Lockerbie. Weither or not this had anything to do with oil. At least both the Catholic church and the church of scotland agreed with the decision. It is better toshow mercy than to alow someone to die in Jail.

Oh god condemm those in Scotland for having such a higher sense of compassion than those over the atlantic,

I suppose in a way, thisis one way of ending NATO, if it is true, those in congress, want sanctions against the UK, do you think the UK and the Rest of Europe are going to just sit on thier laurels and do nothing about it?

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No They will not just sit and say nothing. Sanctions would be imposed on the US also, as a tit for tat action.

Now where would that put the US on its so called WAR ON TERROR?

Would it lead to the NATO allies, leaving the US to it in afghanistan?

Maybe Europe would swap sides, and ally itself with Russia, now that would be interesting, if it did happen.

See the possibilities of this.

reply to post by Laurauk


Go ahead and ally with Russia. Like it's going to punish us not to have to waste our money on your security

reply to post by VinceP1974


LOL That is a joke, who's Government was it, whom let thier own citizens down on 9/11? Answer the US Government. So much for you lot having a hig moralle authority over everyone else in this world. Pathetic to say the least. Yeah go your own way, see if anyone ove here in the UK Cares.

Originally posted by Laurauk
reply to post by VinceP1974

 

LOL That is a joke, who's Government was it, whom let thier own citizens down on 9/11? Answer the US Government. So much for you lot having a hig moralle authority over everyone else in this world. Pathetic to say the least. Yeah go your own way, see if anyone ove here in the UK Cares.

The people of the UK dont care about their own country, their opinion of the USA is not really relevant to me. They're entitled to whatever opinion they have.

come on ,oil wasn't the only reason.
somebody had to replace Obama!
i mean Osama !
i mean.

reply to post by crw2006


Now you know why Obama was mad at the UK for setting the bomber free. They wanted the oil. It was never over political correctness.

Jack Straw admits deal influenced Lockerbie release

Jack Straw has admitted a trade and oil deal with Libya influenced the decision to free the Lockerbie bomber.

The justice secretary claimed that the trade was ‘a very big part’ of the decision to include Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi in a Prisoner Transfer Agreement (PTA).

Last week it was revealed Straw had asked the Scottish government to include al-Megrahi on the transfer list “in the overwhelming interests of the United Kingdom”.

Leaked documents, uncovered by the Sunday Times, showed Straw had written to Scottish counterpart Kenny MacAskill in 2007, while the UK and BP were attempting to ratify a £15 billion exploration deal for oil and gas in Libya.

www.timesonline.co.uk...

Terminal cancer or not, it doesn't matter, if he dies tomorrow then it will just some step towards a more clean world.
His "illness" is NOT the reason of his release. As said before, I find this story disgusting, here is being admitted that economic interests are more value than human lives and justice, and i refuse to believe that even one single UK citizen (not to mention USA) agreed with this decision. Of course the relatives of the victims did NOT.
So let's do a quick ranking of the values according to this event:

1) Money
2) Oil
3) (maybe) Justice
3) (maybe) Human life

Ah, by the way

Libya denies Lockerbie bomber in intensive care

Libya denied reports Wednesday that the only man convicted in the 1988 Lockerbie bombing was taken to intensive care after his illness from terminal prostate cancer worsened.
A Foreign Ministry spokesman, Mohammad Seyala, said Abdel Baset al-Megrahi has actually been moved to a special VIP wing of the hospital in Libya's capital, Tripoli, where he is being treated.

"Al-Megrahi is not in a dangerous situation and is receiving full treatment from a team of Libyan doctors," said Seyala.

Al-Megrahi's family said earlier Wednesday that doctors informed them that their relative was moved to intensive care but they had not been allowed to visit him in the unit. They spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of government reaction.

Seyala said the family has not been allowed to visit al-Megrahi in the VIP wing to ensure his safety.

www.auburnpub.com...

VIP wing, nonetheless: perhaps being fed with lobster and champagne.

Ed: added second source.


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reply to post by internos


Unfortunately, we'll be making compromises too

Saudi Prince Blasts U.S.: You Can't Live Without Our Oil

Friday, September 4, 2009 7:42 AM

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The United States has no alternative to oil to meet its massive energy needs and should recognize its energy interdependence with the Middle East, Saudi Arabia's Prince Turki al-Faisal wrote in an article on Friday.

U.S. President Barack Obama has been pushing to boost green energy which cuts emissions of heat-trapping gases and reduces the use of fossil fuels. In his election campaign, Obama raised some potentially disturbing issues for the Saudis, such as ending dependence on Middle Eastern oil.

In the article translated into Italian and published by Italian newspaper Il Sole 24 Ore, Turki said energy independence was an unrealistic, groundless and harmful concept which was likely to re-emerge once economic recovery pushed oil prices up.

"There is no technology on the horizon which can replace oil to satisfy colossal needs of U.S. industry, transport and armed forces. Any future scenario will be characterized by mix of renewable and non-renewable energies whether you like it or not," Turki said.

His criticism comes as the U.S. Senate is working on a wide-ranging energy and environmental bill aimed to put limits on the amount of greenhouse gases that big industries are allowed to emit.

Turki, a former Saudi intelligence chief and envoy to Washington and London, said the United States, the world's biggest energy consumer, should put aside the rhetoric of energy independence and instead recognize interdependence of energy producers and consumers.

"Whether you like it or not, the destinies of the United States and Saudi Arabia are linked and will remain (linked) for decades," he said.

The United States is the biggest trading partner for the world's biggest oil exporter.

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The Democrat Party embargo on new Domestic production is suicidal.

America knew and the CIA was involved in the negotiations...



Independent

It's simple really. He was about to be granted an appeal, part of which meant the release of previously sealed documents relating to the case which had been suppressed. This would likely not only have proved his innocence but also proven very damaging to both the British and American governments.

Why do you think they were so vocal in having him drop the appeal in return for release back to Libya?

To see Gordon Broon standing there telling us all no deals were done with Libya, even after Straw had said that was the case days earlier just shows the level of dishonesty the man is capable of. In fact, they are all dishonest and need to go - clear house completely and start over with new representatives and a new system of government. No more career politicians and old boy network!

Gaddaffi never admitted Libyan guilt, he simply paid money to the families of victims as part of another government brokered deal. In time their deeds will be uncovered but whether they are still around to be held accountable is another issue, given the length of time the documents are sealed for. So much for transparency!

reply to post by Britguy


Islamic terrorism is real with a real goal and will continue.