Coverage under Obamacare will require an implantable microchip., page 1

There's a pretty starling thing in the bill that 95% of Americans won't like.


The Obama Health care bill under Class II (Paragraph 1, Section B) specifically includes ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable." Then on page 1004 it describes what the term "data" means in paragraph 1, section B:

14 ‘‘(B) In this paragraph, the term ‘data’ refers to in15
formation respecting a device described in paragraph (1),
16 including claims data, patient survey data, standardized
17 analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of
18 data from disparate data environments, electronic health
19 records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the
20 Secretary"

What exactly is a class II device that is implantable? Lets see...




Approved by the FDA, a class II implantable device is a "implantable radiofrequency
transponder system for patient identification and health information." The purpose of a class II device is to collect data in medical patients such as "claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary."



This sort of device would be implanted in the majority of people who opt to become covered by the public health care option. With the reform of the private insurance companies, who charge outrageous rates, many people will switch their coverage to a more affordable insurance plan. This means the number of people who choose the public option will increase. This also means the number of people chipped will be plentiful as well. The adults who choose to have a chip implanted are the lucky (yes, lucky) ones in this case. Children who are "born in the United States who at the time of birth is not otherwise covered under acceptable coverage" will be qualified and placed into the CHIP or Children's Health Insurance Program (what a convenient name). With a name like CHIP it would seem consistent to have the chip implanted into a child. Children conceived by parents who are already covered under the public option will more than likely be implanted with a chip by the consent of the parent. Eventually everyone will be implanted with a chip. And with the price and coverage of the public option being so competitive with the private companies, the private company may not survive.




So will everyone be covered by the public option eventually??????

And does that mean everyone will be chipped?????




SOURCE: www.opencongress.org...

reply to post by K J Gunderson

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Just double-checked it. Yup. This is in HR3200, written november 2008. Already voted on (in committee) in the House of Representatives.

edit to add; I'm a geek, I downloaded the pdf. . . .
It actually starts on page 1001. . .


[edit on 29-8-2009 by mikerussellus]

[edit on 29-8-2009 by mikerussellus]

reply to post by Atlantican

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Someone needs to call the Alex Jones Show and get the word out about this.

This was initially found by hastobemoretolife.

It's in the thread, www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife
Claims:

PG 1001 The Government will establish a National Medical Device Registry. Will you be tracked?

PG 1003 9-11 National Medical Dev Reg ''(iii) other postmarket device surveillance activities" you WILL be tracked.

What the Bill Says:

‘‘(iii) other postmarket device surveillance
10 activities of the Secretary authorized by this
11 chapter; and

That is what he is referring too, but the section is about medical device implants, such as:

SEC. 2521. NATIONAL MEDICAL DEVICE REGISTRY.
12 (a) REGISTRY.—
13 (1) IN GENERAL.—Section 519 of the Federal
14 Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C. 360i) is
15 amended—
16 (A) by redesignating subsection (g) as sub17 section (h); and
18 (B) by inserting after subsection (f) the
19 following:
20 ‘‘National Medical Device Registry
21 ‘‘(g)(1) The Secretary shall establish a national med
22 ical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the
23 ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and
24 outcomes data on each device that—
25 ‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and
1 ‘‘(B) is—
2 ‘‘(i) a class III device; or
3 ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable,
4 life-supporting, or life-sustaining.

So what I gather from this is that, if you get a medical implant they will keep data on the implant to determine how effective it is, etc.

The kicker is though is that they said the records will comply to privacy standards and what not, but this gives them the option for addiction tracking.

[edit on 8-8-2009 by Hastobemoretolife]

Not to down play the OP I think these things need to be repeated.

reply to post by Atlantican

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*THIS IS THE SMOKING GUN FOLKS* Suddenly, "the crazies" don't seem that crazy anymore.

Naw, you still seem crazy. Nobody had contentions with the proposition of putting chips in people. They had contentions with the motivations you guys proposed FOR the chips.

Most people who stay current with science, technology, biology, and philosophies have known that implanted chips have been a long time coming. Michael Crichton wrote the Terminal Man in the 70's. Masamune Shirow wrote Ghost in the Shell in the late 80's, and it spawned a popular cyberpunk movie in 1995 - launching the franchise to stellar proportions. It's currently one (if not the) most popular animes in America - even among those who don't care for Anime. The Matrix, inspired by GitS, is one of the most popular movies in America, and around the world.

The merger of biological and computer systems is inevitable.

Personally, I think it's rather weak sauce. Even if this pans out, it's scope is limited to pretty much Health Care records - which already exist in detail on you, but on paper. They need to be digitized to save resources, streamline information transferance from doctor to doctor, and tidy up the mess. We've got a huge revolution coming in medicine as genetic and tissue engineering technologies mature and pass clinical trials, and we need to get our S* in gear. Implimenting designer medicine would be a cluster-f* under the current obtuse system. And really... your medical records are no safer in a filing cabinet than they are in a database.

Me, on the other hand, I want more than this chip. Bring on the BCIs, experience beaming, and digital memory storage!

Fiction


Reality - thus far. (Consumer BCI product)


Future?


You're worried about this one chip? Ooooohhhh boy, you're in for a rude awakening. Noone is going to force you to merge with technology, but you're going to get left behind. I guess you could join an Amish community. I'll find a way to deal with the inconvenience of passing your Horse and Buggy on the highway, if it means you can stay totally chip free. I don't mind.

reply to post by Bigwhammy

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Please don't take the Mark of the Barack! Great find, thanks for the post!

An Obama / Anti-Christ connection-joke? Oh how clever! Hur hur hur.

Personally, I'm still firmly convinced that Mikael Gorbachev is the Anti-Christ. I heard some pretty damned convincing evidence and theories back in the 80's, and nobody since has quite fit the bill nearly as well. It's got to be him. He even had the big ugly mark of the Beast on his forehead - mocking us for not realizing it. I think someone did a numerology study on that birthmark and they came up with 666!

Any day now his nefarious net will snap shut and doom us all. We will gnash our teeth and curse our inability to destroy that monster when we had the chance!

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