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I Don't See The Point!! Help me!

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posted on Aug, 29 2009 @ 10:47 PM
Well....good questions. Everything that is happening has to happen. Sooner or later everything on this earth has to end. When you see things that you disagree with you question it. Principalities.

posted on Aug, 29 2009 @ 10:49 PM
Give them the gold, I will take food and drink any day.

posted on Aug, 29 2009 @ 11:05 PM
It's pretty simple actually. The Powers that Be are basically in the management business.

They own everything of value to manage.

The basic commodities to live are all owned by them from the oil you put in your car, to the food you put on your table, to the car and the table itself to the infrastructure, distribution and transportation networks that get it to you.

Do you know how much oil is left in the ground and it's current rate of consumption how long it will last?

They do!

Do you know how much copper is in the ground and it's current rate of consumption how long it will last?

They do!

Most people have no idea what it takes to manage a supermarket let alone one on a planetary scale.

You walk in and know that everything you want is going to be on the shelves and all you have to do is first have the money for it.

Everything you want is in fact on the shelves waiting for you because the Powers that Be put it there for you...


They kind of think we are all morons because we don't have any clue at all what it takes to manage the planet.

We worship silly dieites no one has ever seen.

We breed to excess.

We lack intelligence, drive and imagination but complain that we aren't rewarded with a Rolls Royce and a house in Beverly Hills for it.

To the Powers that Be the Earth is their Terranium, and they didn't get it for Christmas they got it the old fashioned way...they stole it!

They are so good at stealing things...there is hardly anything left to steal.

It was fun having so many people around when they could be duped into helping you steal things...but now that there is nothing really left to steal...

Well a lot of the free loaders, winers and worthless eaters just have to have to go, because's not easy making sure those shelves are stocked all the time!

And there really isn't a unlimited supply of everything from oil to the ores that make metals.

So since no one really wants to stop breeding...

I am sure you get the picture...

That's how the Powers that Be really do think. They really feel the world piggy packs off of them and can't take care of itself and not only that but that they really don't want to take care of themselves...

Look around and the truth is they aren't half wrong.

Now try not to panic, because if we all got smart, we would steal all their stuff and hide it on them and that would take them a good hundred years or so to steal it all back.

They would really in fact appreciate that believe it or not. Life can be pretty boring for the Powers that Be, you don't think they really stand around naked against the Red Woods chanting to a statue of an owl because they have more challenging and exciting things to do do you?

Help make the world fun for them again...rob them blind, and give them a reason to care all over again!

posted on Aug, 29 2009 @ 11:09 PM
I think it's a game for them, a twisted real life version of Monopoly, and whoever has the most when TSHT, wins.

They're monsters, pure and simple. In fact, I'm really beginning to think they're demonic. And there's no understanding them. They kill for pleasure, rob for pleasure. They like it, get off on it. The less we have, the better they feel.

They've told us time and time again what they had in store for us.

There's a harvest coming, and we're the crop.

posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 01:08 AM

Originally posted by orderedchaosThere's a harvest coming, and we're the crop.

Exactly what I was thinking.

We have to work, regardless of society.
Even if we lived in a utopia, we would still have to work, even if it was just for ourselves.
We would have to grow our food, take care of necessities, maintenance, etc...
If everyone could provide for themselves, what use would anyone have for a government at all?
It's the "convenience" mentality that is destroying us.
That coupled with rampant commercialism, are the foundations of that mentality.

I am no different than anyone else.
I like the new stuff that comes out.
I like being able to get anything I need at the grocery store.
I don't think I would like having to be totally self sufficient.
Money and convenience have there place.
Which is what makes it so hard to let go of that mentality.
I was born into it, and it's hard to overcome it.
That does not mean that I cannot be aware of it.

The entire premise of control, revolves around ones inability to escape their own thinking.
when we believe that we are what we think, we limit our ability to overcome that rationality.

When we are forced to, and only then, people may become aware of what is happening, and do something about it.
But as the saying goes, "No one wants to be the first in line to get shot."

posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 01:20 AM
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Do you know how much oil is left in the ground and it's current rate of consumption how long it will last? They do! Do you know how much copper is in the ground and it's current rate of consumption how long it will last? They do!

No they don't. Nobody does. We have better frickin maps of MARS that we do of 50% of the territory that America OWNS all legal jurisdiction over. Do you understand that? Do you understand that over 70% of our planet is entirely unexplored and unsurveyed - and that in some of these under explored areas we have found thermal vents spewing commercial grade copper, gold, and silver among other materials.

It's not cost effective now to harvest them. There hasn't really been much of a push to develop technologies for deep-ocean mining/cultivation either - which explains why it's still expensive and impractical.

We can do better.

They may have estimates on remaining resources - but those are only estimates, ultimately flawed, and utterly ignoring the offering of over 70% of our planet's surface and the potential of technology which will allow us to access them.

posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 01:25 AM
reply to post by jackflap

I carry mine with me always...inside! The one that comforts me is this "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding, in all your ways acknowledge Him and He will direct your path."

posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 01:51 AM
reply to post by Greenize

Very good one to have. Proverbs three, five and six I believe. I just thought I'd throw that other bit of encouragement your way. Thanks Greenize!

posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 01:57 AM
reply to post by Greenize

Who are they going to loot when none of us have anything else that they can steal from us?
Do they care?
Are they all planning on hauling ass and living somewhere else?
Were the bailouts a scheme to hoard money for themselves?

My oldest son (21 now) asked me this exact question last Sept thinking he got one over on dear ole dad. I replied:

Simply pay attention to the constent disinformation on the MSM hyping so many issues at us all at one time. But notice this, things are moving very fast these days.

Bush Sr. announces a NWO during his stay in the WH but isn't able to get it all done.
Clinton wins on popularity, gets a few things done that Bush Sr. tried but couldn't but not enough after his fall to Monica.
Bush Jr. is able to take a lot of our freedoms away via 9/11.
And now Obama is on overdrive with Socializing almost everything.

Like Y2K the media including hollywood is releasing more Alien type movies more then ever while debunking them left and right on the news stations. They are also allowing scientist to come on the news circuits admitting that we are going to expeirience Global changes come 2012, even other countries are preparing for earth changes come 2012 by filing Seed Vaults, Building Underground Bases for they're citizens in the mean while our MSM is debunking those therories with jokes about lossing their cell phone connections or laptops lol...

They need to depleat the public of their currency, ablity to self sustain, perosnal growth and self value before 2012.

Where are they going? They have already planned for the outcome of 2012, they believe they will survive and will have obtained everything from us to rebuild power over those who servive as well.

Once they loot everything they can from all of us they will then have the loot to sell back to us as we working bee's earn our right to live and they continue to stay on top.

Now, Since Obama has taken office and my son who has never followed politics has come to sse and pointed out that everything I've said is more and more appearing to be true. He also said "the rabit whole is deeper then we know" lol... That's when I replied, your right son. The rabit whole is too deep for us to know all the reason why but if you search your heart by what is actually happening you will see that we know that something special is happening during our lifetime and it's not the election of Obama lol...

[edit on 06/03/2009 by Rams59lb]

posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 01:59 AM
reply to post by jackflap

And I apprecite it! I truly do!!! I do not fear death, but admittedly I do fear the unknown. Perhaps I shouldn't...but there it is!

posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 02:04 AM
reply to post by Rams59lb

My children see through the charade as well, and it makes me very proud! I often have to comfort my scares her. We are in for a ride I would say!

posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 02:09 AM
It's alway darkest before the dawn! They are losing, they are getting desperate, so let's just scare the hell out of the sheeple we still have! Dang it, we're losing David Rockefeller, what are we suppose to do except scare the sheeple some more!!

It is all a game, don't fall for it, stay positive, we have to stay positive, they are just trying to bring us down and suck the life out of the one's that are screaming, "oh my god", swine flu is going to kill us all", we better get the shot!! Harvest time for the evil in the world!

posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 02:19 AM

Originally posted by Greenize
reply to post by Rams59lb

My children see through the charade as well, and it makes me very proud! I often have to comfort my scares her. We are in for a ride I would say!

Comfort her and value every minute you have with her as the clock is ticking away, just today news outlets release articles that States are starting to post their Vaccination Quarantines and how to mandate vaccinations within their counties.

I have two son's, we are honestly no longer fearful of what is to come, of course we fear pain and suffering as humans but have excepted our fate if these things come true and will not faulter in our belief that all will be well in the end. We realize that our soul will survive although our contaners my not and as long as we continue to be 51% good to all and 95% positive about all things so then we should not fear what is coming.

Please note that I didn't say it is easy, fear is a human quality that can't be totally controlled but we are prepared and value each day in a positive light.

posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 03:02 AM
I don't know. Really. I don't think anyone knows for sure exactly what is up.

Recently, I've had this song in my head. Haven't heard it in ages - well, a few months - so there really isn't a reason for it to be there - except for the lyrics. I'll bold the part that is relevant to me, the part that has been in my head as of late:

Uniform printout reads end of line
Protect code intact leaves little time
Erratic surveys, free thinking not allowed
My hands shake, my push buttons silence
The outside crowd

One world government has outlawed war among nations
Now social control requires population termination

Have we come too far
To turn around
Does emotion hold the key
Is logic just a synonym for
This savagery, disguised in
Forgotten lost memory

Microchip logic
Have we no more thought
Is this wrong I enter
Answers sought
Punch, punch, punch, transfer this data
Into code. wide eyes watch my
Number 156 is shown

Created from past life to perform
Illicit function, I fail this conscious madness
I man/machine imperfection

Have we come too far
To turn around
Does emotion hold the key
Is logic just a synonym for
This savagery, disguised in
Forgotten lost memory
End of line

Queensryche - NM156 - From the album "The Warning" - 1984, er, something like that. Around there.

Funky code, I don't know if I got it right. Still learning the embed process.

Population termination seems to be the only thing that makes sense to me. The Georgia Guidestones say under 500,000,000, which would mean killing around 6 billion or so, give or take. They can sure get a load of people with this swine-flu vaccine that is full of junk. With all the fear propagated by the MSM I would bet millions are waiting for the flu shot because the swine-flu is so terribly dangerous. It's barely killed anybody, especially when one takes into account around 36,000 die from regular flu in the U.S. every year.

Or, they can crash the economy, everyone panics, anarchy ensues, loads of regular people kill loads of other regular people and TPTB are still happy.

Seems to me they just want us dead. They already have taken all the money, why not kill us off? Leave a few serfs so they have someone to harvest their food, do the dirty jobs they are unable to do - like any of the Elite would get their hands dirty, unless it was fleecing someone out of their money - and they can live in their castles for perpetuity. Pass whatever Orwellian law they want to keep those left subservient - not unlike the Proles in 1984, which is one helluva relevant book nowadays.

Lots of relevant books, though. Aldous Huxley's Brave New World has the ideas - a conveyor belt of people being made - science has caught up to the book - genetically engineering us all to be what THEY think we should be. Scary as hell.

All the obfuscation of the truth, all the outright lies, all the propaganda - it's hard to see through all of that even when one knows they are being propagandized. "Public Relations(Thanks, Ed, you bastard), spin - when was the last time you heard any American politician other than Ron Paul tell you anything true? How would one know with all the doublespeak?

O'Brien describes the future:

There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed. But always—do not forget this, Winston—always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face ... for ever.


But what do I know?

EDIT: To fix code and album title and year.
[edit on 8/30/2009 by TheLoony]

[edit on 8/30/2009 by TheLoony]

posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 03:16 AM
Maybe since US is 'cashed out' so to speak, get rid of the dead weight to reduce maintenance expenses and re 'invest' in greener pastures where there is still expansion and building to do. First thought that comes to my mind anyhow.

posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 03:44 AM

Originally posted by tribewilder
In my opinion, it goes something like this.

Take away everything that you have, reduce the population, then you create absolute terror in people.

Think about it....Can you think of a population that will do anything to have security and get all the good things back more than this?

Those that think we are sheeple now...just wait,,it's coming..

No freedom of any type and absolute control over you..


GOOD, VERY GOOD...My master plan is working!

You are all turning yourselves into the very sheeple you so deride
by giving up all hope....I cannot wait to rule you all and when I have
fully enriched myself with much wine, women and ....NO.... **&?% the
song ... i will just take the wine and women .... then I will enslave you all
to do my my most despicable biddings and then I shall dispose of you
like the cowering dogs you are....AH YES!!!! The sweet lamentations
of sheeple in death's waiting is music to my dictatorial ears...of course it is
faaaaar too late to do anything about it since most of you are far too
interested in staying within your stupifyng torpor to lift even
the tiniest pinky in protest. Aaaahhh the vagaries of American Idol
and the dream-like, mind-numbing wasting it fosters is
also my my wildest dream come true....Please do continue by
adding the continuous stream of superfluous verbal diarrhea
that passes for ACTION in this forum....PLEASE DO CONTINUE!!!!

I shall see you off to the "Delousing Chambers" as I stare
unfathomingly at your doe-eyed bewilderment, amused at
you curious inability to see the world as it really is!
Like they say, you may have numbers, but BRAINS
and FORESIGHT? That is definitely NOT one of your strong points.

Thank you and bon soir,

Princes of the Universe

posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 04:35 AM

Originally posted by Greenize
I have a question! Or a few questions perhaps...

What are the ptb thinking?

We have the "swine flu" hanging over our heads...supposedly this is going to kill a lot of people.There is talk of interment camps and large burial places and crematoriums...a horrid picture to imagine!

If the Swine Flu does take hold, then there may be more deaths than can be dealt with given current provisions. The PTB are making provisions for such an event, to do otherwise, would result in further deaths due to other diseases threatening an already over stretched health service. This is a classic 'damned if they do, damned if they don't' situation. Internment camps intimate, complete socio-economic breakdown due to a reduction in man-power sufficient to effect the distribution infrastructure. The PTB realise that many are dependent on others for their survival and have made provisions for that possibility. It is a double-edged sword.

Originally posted by Greenize
More and more people are losing their jobs, their homes, their way of life, and yet prices continue to rise, while wages remain stagnant. Energy bills are skyrocketing, heating fuel, groceries... This is only going to get worse and we all know it.

This is the worrying thing. The Swine Flu is a lesser consideration, to my mind, deflection or an exaccerbater (if that, indeed, is even a word!). It is sociological ‘truth’, that the likelihood of a people revolting is directly proportional to property ownership amongst those people. The more people there are who lose their homes, and enter into the rental or state housing market, the greater the risk of a civil uprising.

Originally posted by Greenize
Who are they going to loot when none of us have anything else that they can steal from us?

If they are engineering this economic trough, then it seems that the US is having the hardest time of it or the hardest time adapting to it, depending on how you look at it. Those with the power to manipulate economies are globalists and do not care about nations, they think only in terms of markets. Whatever else may be happening elsewhere they are still making money.

We are truly at the epoch of the Rule of the Mortal Gods.

Originally posted by Greenize
Do they care?

Not in a way that you and I may recognise, they would say that they do though. They live hollow lives because they have to be hollow to do what they do. It is a cycle, the snake eating it’s own tail. By ‘caring’ and governing the people they justify their own existence. We re-enforce their position every time we allow them to make decisions that do not reflect the view of the majority and diminish our ability to think and act independently and freely.

Originally posted by Greenize
Are they all planning on hauling ass and living somewhere else?

They would be poor despots if they didn’t have a contingency plan for exile should we decide to lynch them. We are their greatest threat in all scenarios, but not one that they have much cause to worry about, we are still decades away from organised resistence. (Sadly.) Otherwise, while there is still law, they have it on their side and only a random chaotic act can penetrate that reserve.

Originally posted by Greenize
Were the bailouts a scheme to hoard money for themselves?

I’m not completely sure what it was for, I suspect there are a number of organic and inorganic factors at work, but I see it as far more of a redistribution, or consolidation, than a hoarding exercise. Remember, money is a completely imaginary force, it doesn’t exist and it has no real power other than the representation that we impress upon it. I watched an experiment on TV the other day that demonstrated that when people handle money or think of money related tasks, their memory, hunger and alertness increases. That is deep programming, and real magic. An economic slump means we think more about money thus giving it more power over us, individually and collectively. By reducing the flow of currency in circulation you ration the reward, which is the sensual experience of money to spend and you subsequently heighten the desire to achieve reward. It’s like a crack of the whip on our collective consciousness.

posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 12:26 PM
I have had a good life. I have never known hunger, I have never been on the verge of freezing to death, I have never suffered alone without shelter and love. Money is not of much importance as far as material things go, of course you need it to pay bills and buy food, but I am content to be in the woods... I don't know how to suffer....does that make sense? That scares me too....Can I be strong... If left to fend for myself the answer is yes. I can hunt and fish. I know how to skin and clean game and fish... but to be put into a camp and be confined....I don't know mentally that I could take that...

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