The "Nazca Lines" near Pine Gap, Northern Territory, Australia

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posted on Aug, 29 2009 @ 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by K J Gunderson
Well it is obvious what they are. From glancing around at some of Zorgon's other threads, I cannot imagine how you all missed it. These spirals are actually glass enclosures around giant statues of Egyptian gods and mining camps. That stuff is all over Mars and the Moon, right Zorgon?


Hi and how did you know that the spirals were to do with the Egyptians.

Ok as long as you Know ill show everyone else the connection as well

In Toowoomba: A group of seventeen granite stones were found with Phoenecian inscriptians. One had been translated to read "Guard the shrine of Yahweh’s message" and "Gods of Gods". Another inscription reads, "This is a place of worship or Ra" and "Assemble here to worship the sun." (Ra was the Egyptian sun god)



In 1910 people excavating for a well at Gordonvale, near Cairns (N.Q.), two metres below the surface they unearthed an Egyptian scarab beetle made from sandstone, 90mm in length with hieroglyphics carved underneath.



North of Cooktown strange Aboriginal carvings have been found depicting ships not European, bearing the Aten, symbol of the Egyptian Sun God.


There exists an ironstone slab found by a man out from ***** years ago which bears a Phoenecian inscription - "The Eye of Ra the sun rules Sinim."


Sinim was the ancient Hebrew name for a mysterious southern continent, mentioned in the Old Testament. The Phoenician name for it was Ophir, a "great south land of gold" where gold was obtained to build Soloman’s temple. The Egyptians called it "the land of Punt."


The natives of Arnhem Land also believed the soul was conducted to the after life in a canoe rowed by ‘Willuwait’ he boatman of the dead. If the deceased had led a good life he was allowed to enter Purelko, the afterworld. If not, he was eaten by a crocodile.(note statues found @ Gympie). This belief is identical to the teachings of the Osirian religion of Egypt where Thoth conducted the spirits of the dead into the presence of Osiris for judgement. Here if the souls sins were outweighed by a feather, the body was devoured by the crocodile God ‘Ba".


the Egyptians and phenecians were visiting long before the whitey bloke


edit And forgot to mention the good people at Awareness Quest for their hard work on some of these findings

www.awarenessquest.com...
Thanks

Ocker


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posted on Aug, 29 2009 @ 10:25 PM
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Originally posted by St Vaast
That's fascinating .. I had no idea about the Lines, even though I've lived in Australia for many years
When were they discovered, do you know ?



Mongodave first spotted them in the thread where he presents that 'tunnel' I just posted...

This thread
Pine Gap Underground Entry?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Here in this post... took me a while to find it again
posted on 29-2-2008
www.abovetopsecret.com...


Never got anywhere then either... so that was the first we heard of it. Perhaps because of where it is, no one is looking at it.



posted on Aug, 29 2009 @ 10:29 PM
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AH Excellent
Something to follow up on. Spirals seem to pop up a lot in ancient rock art...

Small one on a rock...

Cabeceras de Izcagua
La Palma, Canary Islands



Nine Mile Canyon, Utah Petroglyphs
Spiral and Serpent Petroglyph



I will follow that lead of yours now. Considering how far back the native story teller's oral history goes, it is interesting that even they don't know...

This site is roughly 10 miles south of Alice Springs, so it puts it close your mentioned area.

Maybe Pine Gap really was built on something ancient


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posted on Aug, 29 2009 @ 11:00 PM
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Looked like a intresting topic reading the headline. But then I see who the OP is. So is this another of your trick post or is this a real discussion about what the topic post indicates ?
I will read on now with a defenseive stature.



posted on Aug, 29 2009 @ 11:09 PM
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Can you give us an estimate of the scale? How Big are we talking here?



posted on Aug, 29 2009 @ 11:22 PM
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Originally posted by pavil
Can you give us an estimate of the scale? How Big are we talking here?


The biggest circle is 380 feet in diameter using GE's scale

In contrast the Nazca spiral I used is 276 feet in diameter

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posted on Aug, 29 2009 @ 11:25 PM
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just a guess, but possible targets for practice bombing runs from the 50's....but like I said ...just a guess.

There are some similar aspects to other sites with the same uses.



posted on Aug, 29 2009 @ 11:26 PM
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Originally posted by tribewilder
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No one wants to guess in case you come back and say it was made by a kid on a tricycle...

star for you

Originally posted by A por uvas
Maybe they are the first crop circles done in sand. Go in that direction and you'll probably find what you're looking for and good luck.

star for you


Originally posted by BaronVonGodzilla
Well I will jump in until you reveal your hilarious joke and say ancient aborigines created them, and for the same astronomy based reasons.

star for you


Originally posted by Melbourne_Militia
I know its off topic, but just wondering while you were "snooping" around Pine Gap, what did you find? where you actually here down under or was it "web-snooping"

Cheerz!

star for you


Originally posted by OzWeatherman
Ah the Maree man. Thats not far from where I am. Its suspected to have been made by na artist who has since died. He never said he did it, but he also never said he didnt

star for you


Originally posted by DaRAGE
corn crops using bees containing alien dna just like the x files!!! :_P

doubt irrigation.

that nazca guy WAS done by an artist.... i read about it in the paper a few years agoo...


And a star for you.
there ,great thread gang.



posted on Aug, 29 2009 @ 11:38 PM
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Well, considering i'm in Sydney I don't think i'll be 'popping out' to Pine Gap anytime soon. For those who are unaware the central regions of Australia are a desert. They don't call us the 'sunburnt country' for no reason at all. That and the fact that it's at least a 2 day drive from here - probably more actually.

I would hazard a guess that the lines are some form of Abriginal artwork. The Aboriginals really like t use spirals and dots in their works and those spirals just look like a really big version of of their artwork.

BUT.....

The Australian Aboriginals have an extremely long and detailed history which they call the "Dreamtime". I have done a cursory search and can't find any reference to these lines in their Dreamtime accounts. I suspect they might be older than we suspect.

[edit on 29/8/2009 by Kryties]



posted on Aug, 29 2009 @ 11:44 PM
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I have a possible (read mundane) theory as to what we're seeing.



Notice the area these spirals are all located, they're in the lighter area, possibly a dried up creek bed.

I think maybe they're part of some re-vegetation initiative, possibly against salinity.



[edit on 29/8/09 by Chadwickus]



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 12:07 AM
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Hi Chadwickus
Good to see you mate.

If there is one fellow who can possibly/probably clear this, up, it will my old mate, Professor Des Ball, from ANU (Australian National University)

For those who don't know, Des wrote the definitive book on Pine Gap: "A Base for Debate: a suitable piece of real estate"

Now, if you really want to hear true accounts of conspiracies, Des is the man to talk to. Some amazing things - some very scary things - have happened to both Des and several of his international colleagues.

I'll email Des now, Zorgon, with your permission, I'll attach the pics. Is that OK?

Edit to add: S&F'd



[edit on 30-8-2009 by mckyle]



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 12:34 AM
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The man sounds like he knows his stuff.

Is it bad that I don't know who this guy is?




posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 12:46 AM
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Haha - No mate. Don't feel bad ;-)

Des is sometimes on ABC, and I think he was on a BBC doc a few years ago with my old mentor. Primarily, he is regarded in international academic circles as one of "The" people to goto regarding global nuclear/clandestine operation and development. If you get time, look up some of his publications - they're pretty interesting. The one thing that sticks in my mind, was over a dinner one night, when Des mentioned how many nations are "go" for 24-hour to 72-hour nuclear delivery! And I'm not talking the top 10 either


But, outside academia, he keeps a fairly low profile. And I guess if you get a chance to hear some of his stories, you'll understand why.

Edit: I just remebered where I am at the moment, so I think it's best I shutup ;-)


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posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 12:57 AM
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By the way mate, when is our next extreme right-wing para-military meeting scheduled?

I don't want to be late this time!



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by mckyle

I'll email Des now, Zorgon, with your permission, I'll attach the pics. Is that OK?


By all means



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 01:00 AM
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Originally posted by Kryties
The Australian Aboriginals have an extremely long and detailed history which they call the "Dreamtime". I have done a cursory search and can't find any reference to these lines in their Dreamtime accounts. I suspect they might be older than we suspect.


Yes... seems to be the consensus... just curious no one has explored it. I wonder if they can be easily seen on the ground? As you say, its not a place someone can just pop over to look at it, unless we can find someone living in Alice Springs



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 01:01 AM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by mckyle

I'll email Des now, Zorgon, with your permission, I'll attach the pics. Is that OK?


By all means




Cheers Zorgon!

One thing, I went to your site, but can't seem to locate the coordinates for the circles?? It's probably staring me in the face! Can you direct me to them mate?

Update: Scratch that!! I'm stupid!!!! They were staring me in the face


Time to cut down on the opium dens ;-)

MODS: that was a joke

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posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 02:00 AM
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I am completely blown away.

I know a lot of stuff - but this one - first time hear about it. It makes me wonder what else is out there?

SF



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 02:07 AM
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The Golden Ratio; the story of Phi

One would expect to find it all over the cosmos.
It Is.

[edit on 30-8-2009 by Perseus Apex]



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 02:07 AM
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Originally posted by zorgon
Yes... seems to be the consensus... just curious no one has explored it. I wonder if they can be easily seen on the ground? As you say, its not a place someone can just pop over to look at it, unless we can find someone living in Alice Springs


Im actually probably the closest person on ATS to this place believe it or not. I dont think its would be that wise to go around snooping that area thought considering its close proximity to Pine Gap. If its not far off the Stuart Highway then lots of people have probably driven past it..





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