Cursive writing and printing. A survival need?, page 1
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reply posted on 29-8-2009 @ 02:09 PM by mikerussellus
reply to post by intrepid



When my son was "over using" spell check, I got him a typewriter and a dictionary.

That said, I agree about penmenship.

A lost, if not dying, art.


reply posted on 29-8-2009 @ 02:53 PM by St Vaast
reply to post by intrepid



Congratulations re: initiating this thread and discussion

It's very important subject, imo


It seems such a short time ago that I used to write longhand quite frequently and took considerable care with my penmanship

Then I began using a computer


The other day, I tried to write a simple note in a greeting card.

It's no exaggeration to say that I found it extremely difficult. I'd lost the ability, the rhythm. So much so that I had to tear up the card, my writing was so bad. I pulled out another card and the same thing. Finally, I had to 'practice' writing on a notepad before trying again

Rather than write the cheery note I'd intended to send, I was forced by the difficulty in writing, to say: 'Will write again soon .. as soon as I get a new cable for my printer '. And I made an excuse about my arthritis preventing me from writing more

While it's true that I've developed arthritis in my hand, I think it's more true to say that sheer lack of practice has rendered my hand-writing almost illegible. The only things I've written since May 2009 are a couple of scribbled shopping lists and a Mother's Day card

Your thread has motivated me to begin writing by hand again, in order to stay in practice. Thank you


reply posted on 29-8-2009 @ 02:58 PM by CX
Excellent topic. Starred and flagged.

I have always been a bit of a writing geek so to speak, i've just always enjoyed the art of writing. I even have a bit of a fascination with fountain pens, of which i have more than is probably needed.

This all stems from being taught to write well at school. I loved it, and of course it was all we had back then, no computers as such. I even learnt calligraphy which made a massive difference to my everyday handwriting.

All this i pass on to my kids.

Recently i attended a parents workshop at our local primary school, it was for parents who wanted to help their kids more with their school work. I was amazed at the lack of discussion on handwriting.

The headteacher said that it was becoming redundant as in a few years it would be all touch screens and keyboards, in fact you would be hard pushed to find a pen and paper in the future.

That horrified me, and Intrepid's point here is exactly what i brought up. I said, "Well what happens when the computers break, or theres a power cut and the kids can't write?"

I don't think i got a decent answer, just a few remarks about the kids maybe having to resort to other techy gadgets instead.

Anyway, i try to write as much as i can, whether thats a "real" letter to friends or just writing things down in books instead of typing them up all the time.

For any adults that either do not like writing, or think their handwriting is beyond repair, you could do a lot worse than to go back to basics and start again. Pick yourself up one of the books that kids learn by, or visit the many sites on the net that will help you.

In a different look at survival, for example the economy, handwriting could mean the difference between getting that job that feeds you and your family, and mabye not. A well typed CV is great, but when you start writing in front of clients or your boss in a 3 year olds writing, it may not look too good.

However back to the main point of Intrepid's thread, in a survival situation, writing skills could mean a lot if it meant taking or sending an important message than ensured your safety.

Also, i like to think that if worst came to the worst and we faced a rebuild of civilization after a complete world collapse, there would be at least someone who could document the history of the rise of the human race once again. Thats most likely going to be have to be a written record for a while.

I think it is very important, so thanks again for the thread.

CX.


reply posted on 29-8-2009 @ 03:13 PM by St Vaast
reply to post by ravenshadow13




Good point you've raised about your mother


My mother is in her 80s and still writes in the beautiful copper-plate style she's used all her life, to the point that others have remarked, 'Gee, your mother writes beautifully'.

She does. Don't know how she does it at her age. She's worked hard all her life and her hands are twice the size they used to be .. witness to all the work they've done.

There's a beautiful balance to her writing .. it's like reading music or looking at art. It's visually beautiful

When my father died last year, I received two or three long letters plus cards from his cousin, who is close to 90. Again, the writing was beautiful to see, yet she's in very poor health

Another thing I've noticed in the writing of the women above, is that they are able to reduce the size of their writing without it becoming at all distorted. For example, if the writers feel the need to squeeze in an extra paragraph in the final few inches of page remaining, the writing is much smaller, yet loses nothing .. same slant and flow, perfectly legible, soaring capitals, each letter a little work of art. Neither woman has ever used a computer

As to basic math .. when I was a small child, shop-keepers were behind the counter. There were very few supermarkets. All the 'reckoning' was done by the shop-assisant on a pad on the counter.

My mother could 'tally up' the total from her side of the counter .. which is to say, she was able to add-up the total amount owed by calculating upside down, based on the numbers written on the shop-keeper's notepad. And she could do it faster than the shop-keeper.

Naturally, she received compliments on her ability and no doubt this became a small pride on her part, which in turn motivated her to do better each time. Thus she kept her mind well exercised.

Unfortunately, I didn't keep my wits about me in the same way as my mother. I've become so numbed by the supermarket ritual that I accept the total they charge me and I've noticed (glad I finally noticed) that I've grown into the habit of simply accepting the change they drop in my hand without bothering to count it or check the receipt.

My daughter has stayed alert. Years ago, I used to tell her about Grandma's alertness and basic math ability and I encouraged my daughter to calculate the amount and to check her change and receipts.
She always does.

I should have remembered to give myself the same advice. After this thread, I hope I do begin doing so, because I realise now just how slack I've become.


reply posted on 29-8-2009 @ 03:18 PM by St Vaast
reply to post by CX




Great post !

You (and the OP) have touched on so many things I was thinking about only the other day as result of something I read in another thread here

It started me thinking about what a mess there'd be if the power simply winked out (as there's every possibility of it doing at any time in the future, for a number of reasons)

That's why I was so delighted to see this thread ... for many, it will raise undreamed of situations, and thus is something everyone needs to consider

Yours, as always, is a great post


reply posted on 29-8-2009 @ 03:23 PM by St Vaast
reply to post by masqua




Wow ! ANOTHER very relevant point

This thread is raising so many things that we know, yet have managed to forget

Of course ! Unique writing styles ! It's what makes us smile when we see a particular envelope within the stack of printed material in the letter-box.

Unique writing styles are as recognisable to us as faces, voices. Very valuable


reply posted on 29-8-2009 @ 03:43 PM by CX
reply to post by St Vaast



Thank you.

Intrepid's thread brings up such an important, yet almost forgotten skill that i fear kids will lose altogether in the very near future.

This should go hand in hand with reading. There are kids now starting highschool who cannot read properly, and that is a shame.

If the SHTF you might need to read instructions for community rebuilding, navigation instructions, recipes, communication messages, intelligence reports, the list is endless.

If a builder gives you written instructions and plans to build a house, and you can't read them.....looks like you're back in that tarp shelter for a while longer eh?

If we cannot read, like writing, it could mean the difference between you thriving or surviving.

CX.


reply posted on 29-8-2009 @ 04:04 PM by CX
Originally posted by calcoastseeker
Very odd that you would start this thread.Just the other day I read that the school system I attended was eliminating cursive writing in favor of keyboarding at the school.

Educators scale down penning for keyboarding.

Eventually these children won't even be able to sign their own personal signature.


That is sad.

As this is ATS and all that, it does make you wonder whether it's being done as a natural progession in the modern world of technology, or something to do with the attempted dumbing down of society?

Kids get taught to use only elctronic gadgets and talk in "techy speak".....writing gets phased out from the beginning at school age......so all the kids know is how to use a computer. What do computers run on?

Then ask yourself who controls the power to run the computers, the only way people will know how to communicate? It's like putting your entire ability to communicate in the hands of the PTB if you do not keep yourself skilled in reading and writing.

Power to the pen!

CX.

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