Originally posted by useless eaters
No, I can’t tell you why, "standardized tests are more geared towards Whites as opposed to Asians, African Americans or Latinos/Mexicans"
because they are NOT geared towards whites.
You’re wrong and show a lack of knowledge when it comes to this subject and institutional deviance. Please educate yourself:
Institutional Racism: A Primer on Theory and Strategies for Social Change ISBN-13: 978-0742560161
2+2 is going to equal 4 no matter what color of skin your wearing or standardized test you are given.
This proves you have no idea about standardized tests, but more specifically, about the content and questions asked on the tests.
So, get over it already, not everything is a racial conspiracy. Everything does not begin with a racial motive behind it.
I’ve provided two links and a book title with ISBN to support my claims. I can provide you with more if need be. I suggest you thoroughly examine
them and provide evidence to the contrary that support your claims, however foolish they may be.
Lets leave Asians and Mexicans out of it. They aren’t the ones claiming those who don’t back obama are racist.
No let’s leave them in because some of these people are racially conscious. You’re the same one who mentioned the 3R’S so it is only logical to
include them when discussing learning curriculum. Finally, who are making the claims you spoke of? The NY Times? The NAACP? The entire black
It's common knowledge, as well as statistical knowledge the Asian students do quite well in this system you claim is so "geared towards the
whites". Wonder why? maybe it's because they have a genuine interest in learning something and don't consider themselves as being in victim mode
screaching, "discrimination" at every opportunity.
It is common knowledge that the reason they do well is not because they have a “genuine interest in learning something”, but the fact that most of
them come from affluent areas and are not economically depressed. Moreover, many have a different relationship or history with the American power
structure, have infrastructures outside of the country they can rely on and have a culture that stresses education (and emphasizing education does not
mean the child has a “genuine interest.”) It is obvious that you lack an understanding in how finances have a direct impact on education and the
potential for social mobility, so I once again ask that you educate yourself before you type another long-winded diatribe.
Many of us do not approve of having to study Shakespeare, Mozart, or Einstein.
So you admit that it happens, yet don’t acknowledge it as a problem?
But to claim the study of these contributes to racial problems is just plain goofy and serves to demonstrate the point I am making that
everything is not reducible down to just a racial issue. There is more to life than just race.
No, it isn’t goofy, what is goofy is your lack of understanding and comprehension as it relates to the premise presented. I provided links, have a
ton of more info, and will happily provide you these things once you decide to look at what is being presented in its totality. When you decide to
give me something besides emotional rants and fallacies, you’ll open yourself to truly understanding the racial problems in our country.
If your that concerned with the causes of “racism” in this country, a good place to start would be the self appointed spokesmen for the
black race, (yourself included).
The black race does not need a spokesmen, but if pointing out idiocy and speaking up is being a spokesmen so be it. If you were so concerned with the
causes of racism in this country, you’d step outside of your comfort zone (probably a two mile radius), pick up a book, seek higher education, speak
to others about the issue, give back to your community and take a stand for what is right.
I don’t think I have ever heard any of these spokesmen give black people no credit for anything other than being a victim.
Who are these so-called black spokesmen you speak of? Cornell West? Bill Cosby? W.E.B. du BOIS? Erving Johnson, John Hope Franklin? Danny Glover? Oh I
get it, another emotional rant and mumbo jumbo that is based on your primitive understanding and media bias.
Junior wants to know about his heritage, what does he find when he listens to one of you self appointed spokesmen, he learns he is a VICTIM,
someone who has been dumped on. It’s always the same, it’s always VICTIM, VICTIM, VICTIM, His past is a story of him being a VICTIM, his present
is being a VICTIM, his future is being a VICTIM. It's all just one big story of how he and his race have been dumped on. Yes, "a mind is a terrible
thing to waste". If you had any idea of the poison you inject into a young mind every time you preach this hopelessness, this victim logy, you would
no longer do it.
Yes, remove all blame from the oppressor and place it on the oppressed. Remove any responsibility from the white power structure and sweep everything
under the rug. Forget the fact that White Privilege does not make it an even playing field, and disregard the fact that blacks have been “equal”
for less than 100 years. While we’re at it, let us totally disregard the times blacks have looked past what you describe as “VICTIM”
(victimhood) and whites have torn it down. Black Wall Street anyone? Did I remind you it is best to be oblivious to long-term cultural trauma? Let us
totally erase the extermination of the civil rights movement from history and pretend everything has been peaches & cream for good ole Juniors
ancestors and good ole Junior. Let us not address any of the issues, or make corrections, let us not work on a plan to help build. Instead, let us
shriek at the top of our lungs, proclaim to Junior that all he has to do is “get over it”, and believe in “our” American Dream. This is
EXACTLY what you believe, is utter foolishness, and ultimately shows your contempt for all that is righteous on this planet.
This kind of talk is guaranteed to destroy a young mind before it even begins to grow. It will kill self respect, and create a criminal.
You know nothing about criminality or deviance, so if you don’t want me using an appeal to authority fallacy or really exposing you for what you
truly are, I suggest you s stay clear from this area.
You simply cannot have much respect for the black man if all you can see him as is a VICTIM. It's really to bad the so called black leaders
have such a low opinion of their brothers, they see nothing positive and it is they who believe the black man is not equal to the white
This has been addressed in this post and in a previous post where I talk of racial consciousness and how it can create rifts within the group.
Moreover, you introduced being racially conscious, a term you’ve proven yourself to have used out of context, to the thread. Knowing this to be
true, I can’t truly expect you to comprehend what is being conveyed, so I’ll find some way to dumb it down so you “get it.”
Another question, one you’ll obviously avoid, do you understand the term “WHITE PRIVELEGE?”
As the late, great, Booker T Washington once said, “You cannot keep a man down without yourself staying down”
And what did the late, great, Martin Luther King Jr. say about victimhood? Concerning your Booker T Washington quote, a quote that was obviously
posted due to severe confirmation bias, I give you the following:
So, before you accuse the white man of all this, take a look at who is really keeping the black man down, and who is staying down with
What do you mean by, “before you accuse the white man of all this?” Do you not realize that history, economics, sociology, psychology and anything
devoted to the understanding of people and cultures support what I’m saying?
I am a white man and I do not see the black man as a hopeless VICTIM.
You are a white man who has White Privilege and you’re totally oblivious to the what black people go through.
Rather than trying to make the white man responsible for all the ills of the black race, listen instead to some of these self appointed
spokesmen for the black race, the Al Sharptons and Jessie Jackson’s.
I provided you with six people who are polar opposites of the people you listed. Instead, do yourself a favor and listen to them, or pick up the books
some of them have written and read them.
The only time you will ever hear from them is when the are telling black people they are hopeless VICTIMS. The only thing that brings them to
life is when they can see an opportunity to accuse someone or something a “racist”. Otherwise they are quite comfortable living under a rock.
Sharpton and Jackson are racially conscious. MOF their race is the only thing they are truly conscious of.
Simply put, the two men you listed are not accurate representations of black leadership, nor are they 100% beneficial to the black race. Do they cause
harm? Absolutely, but they also do some good, so I can’t totally disregard them. However, what you need to do is turn off the idiot box, stop
throwing a hissy fit about the New York Times, and educate yourself before you speak about race relations, victimhood, etc.
I also see you’re bottle spinning tactics at play here, so I’ll repeat this for the third time now. If a non-white child spends 10+ years in our
education system learning about White History and Eurocentric values, would he or she be wrong for later becoming racially conscious? I’ll also
repeat another question. There is more to education than White history and Eurocentric values, but what is most taught in American school systems?
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