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Were They Time Travelers?

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posted on Aug, 29 2009 @ 06:41 AM
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The coast 2 coast show the other night aug 27th talked about 1980 Rendlesham Forest / RAF Bentwaters UFO incident. Brought up again which I thought was really cool was what staff sgt. Penniston said, basically that the UFOS were time travelers from 40,000 or so years in the future
"and they are using us like band-aids", this was retrieved from a hypnosis session he apparently under went I believe around 1994. You can get more info on Linda Howe's web site 'earthfiles' and u-tube vids of Staff Sergeant James W. Penniston (he spoke at the 2007 press conference).

She also (Linda Howe) talked to Dr. Michio Kaku, about the possibility of aliens doing the above and he said its possible (talked about type 1,2, civilizations etc...like he usually does)

anyway I'm thinking, you know ...this might be the ticket...the best answer to the aliens visiting us ..why not?

heres a link to show info on above subject of "time travelers" www.coasttocoastam.com...




posted on Aug, 29 2009 @ 07:56 AM
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I am familiar with the theory, but don't we have better things to do in the future than to travel back in time and cause panic and confusion and mess with people's heads? Is this a future ruled by carefree teenagers or something? Here's a neat Youtube video about time travel that doesn't entirely give me a headache



posted on Aug, 29 2009 @ 08:05 AM
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OHH NOESS please save us from the teenagers that are gonna one day run our countries..

c'mon get real

What the big problem is, is all these old farts running our countries and telling us what to do, that dont want to change and some even fear it.. the old farts r the biggest problem cause when someone comes along (most likely someone in there 20's) with an incredible unbelievable idea the old farts of today will just shelve it and make up some crap about it causing panick.. when in reality it could save the planet or something, but would mean less money in the old farts pockets

sorry but ur teenager comment kinda pissed me off



posted on Aug, 29 2009 @ 10:10 AM
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The ETs could be time travelers, they could be liars, too. Take for instance the John Titor story. Let's assume he really was a time traveler, could he not have been lying about his mission.

Why come back in time to get a clunker computer? I think it's more likely he came back in time to steal something! A religious artifact!



posted on Aug, 29 2009 @ 11:19 PM
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Yes, that sure is possible. Like in the book "Messengers of Deception" all kinds of that going down in that classic! But, basically what the Sergeant was saying was that they "are using us like band-aids" and trying at the same time to be very careful about it so as not to "mess up the time stream" which got me interested in the story again.

Lots of threads on ATS about folks saying things like : I thought so and so died way back when...or I could of sworn such and such occurred this way!.
Feelings folks get when walking in a room or feeling that they've done a certain thing before. Stuff like that.

Maybe some folks here can give better examples of what I'm talking about, from personal experiences?

[edit on 29-8-2009 by RUFFREADY]



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 06:21 AM
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HI all,
Seems to me former S4 scientist and J-Rod keeper Dan Burisch mentioned the race J-Rod represents are here as a result of coming back in time. And amongst other things, need to correct some genetic mutation that's become fatal to them in there original time (future)?

Decoy



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 07:22 AM
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you might read the thread

"short storys >> temps : a time travelers story "

I might add , I have a much easier time beleiving in time travel then some being vacationing here .

the physical earth is an incredably hostil place , even befor you add in dealing with living things here...

oxygen is a close relitive of florine ....

oxide's are a kind of chemical attack ....

water is a universal solvent , and the oceans of earth desolve nearly everything that is put in them in a matter of weeks .

the liklyhood of a person who lives in the tropics , having a fur lined parka , rabbit fur lined deer skinn'd gloves , and snow shoes is not reasonable .... why should a person beleive that they would arrive at the north pole and be a bit shocked and un prepared when visiting .


a person well suited for the north pole of 1919 will be well equipt for it in 2100bc or 3000ad



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by RUFFREADY
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Yes, that sure is possible. Like in the book "Messengers of Deception" all kinds of that going down in that classic! But, basically what the Sergeant was saying was that they "are using us like band-aids" and trying at the same time to be very careful about it so as not to "mess up the time stream" which got me interested in the story again.

Lots of threads on ATS about folks saying things like : I thought so and so died way back when...or I could of sworn such and such occurred this way!.
Feelings folks get when walking in a room or feeling that they've done a certain thing before. Stuff like that.

Maybe some folks here can give better examples of what I'm talking about, from personal experiences?

[edit on 29-8-2009 by RUFFREADY]


Caveat:IMHO

There is a world of difference between receiving energy (say e/m) from the "future" (happens all the time when you look at anything) and transporting matter backward or forwards from a point in time. You should be able to scroll forward and back as an observer, but move matter into and out of and BOOM!. Basically (again IMHO) move back in time you get crushed to death, move forward and you blow up, as the "now" matter reality size is different from the destination matter reality size. No talk please about matter being energy and vice versa. Even if you did manage to do it, I wonder if your individual "now" atoms would become instantaneously entangled with their destination counterparts. Now that would be an interesting way to die. Just a few thoughts on a Sunday afternoon.



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 11:59 AM
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So I gather what you are saying is that the universal laws (in our universe) would prohibit one from traveling in time because one would not be able to occupy space that is already occupied by matter. In other words if you traveled back in time the area that you would try to appear in would be "taken up", without room for another batch of mater (it is said by physicist that a reaction of particles in one area of the universe is simultaneously acted out in another area of the universe being some link involved with particles through-out our universe.

It seems that makes since and that when traveling in time, a whole new universe is created or a new time line.



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 01:03 PM
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Your "size" at any point in time ( ie universal expansion) is your location from the big bang. So say the universe was (hypothetically) 50miles in diameter, then your part of the universe would be a radius 25 miles out from you. Imagine you were at the centre of a bubble. So if you went back in time, you'd have to squeeze down your bubble or expand it if you went into the future. Sort of like pressure at depth in the sea. This could all be rubbish, but it's what I think is going on.

If you did manage to squeeze or expand the bubble and do the jump, then the other problem is that "you" are composed of atoms that come and go. So the "you" of 10 years ago is not the same collection of atoms that "you" are now. The "you" now was probably spread across half the planet 10 years ago and given that quantum entanglement deals with say 2 electrons which think they are one, then you could end up having anything from one hell of an '___' trip to your entire structure collapsing as it tries to be multiple things at the same time.

Again, all this could be rubbish.

Going back to your original question...my first ever thought was "oh #, I'm a baby" and I've been experiencing recurring and detailed "deja vu" since day one. When I say "deja vu," I mean it's more like "just knowing," which is quite reassuring really.

Hence my interest in the subject.



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 01:08 PM
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using us as band-aids? thats ur only reason they "time travel" here? seriously?



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 01:08 PM
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double posted

[edit on 30-8-2009 by platipus]



posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 05:43 AM
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Well, there's a bit more to it than that. The whole hypnosis transcript can be found on earthfiles website according to Lind Howe.
The "band-aid" reason was meant (I take it) to mean 40,000 years in the future "our" race's DNA is starting to go wrong.




posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 07:39 AM
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my favorite subject............


i guess the theory about different timelines is not true

[edit on 31-8-2009 by whitemotel]



posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 01:32 PM
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multipul time lines is not supported by any other expression of this anywhere else in nature.

the idea that they can move it time with greater ease than correct gene's in their own time seems a reach ...

may I suggest ... their reason for being here... can be seen in what was done .
if they can travel in time... they can travel here as meny times as needed to be successful .
even if , what they are doing here , is fixing a unsuccessful trip , done by some other force that they could not control .

what ever was done , they were successful ... therefore... what was done?



posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 02:05 PM
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i'm not gonna speculate only relate information that i've gathered from my personal experiences with the surgeons.

but they rarely disclose information and more often than not its just the same old hat. who are you? what do you want from me? where are you from? questions like this are always answered dismissively with comments like, "you wouldn't understand." and "just relax." or "that is not for you to know" the only thing i could call even slightly informative was once i was shown what looked like a 3-d model of earth lit behind green fog as the projected message "you must not destroy your planet" was drilled into my head for what seemed like several minutes.

[edit on 29-9-2009 by kmarx]



posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 02:11 PM
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Maybe you don't remember or it wasn't mentioned on that particular show, but Penniston and Burroughs were "worked on" by the AFOSI after the fact.

I've heard Burroughs express frustration on why he and Penniston who were both out on the 26th remembered things differently from that night. Penniston also said that when he was checking out the craft Burroughs suddenly wasn't behind him anymore and couldn't account for him for like 40 minutes.

So I think it's very important not to forget that these people went through something, whatever it was, extreme and that they didn't understand and afterward the OSI might have screwed up with their minds even more.



posted on Sep, 30 2009 @ 12:26 AM
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the ones i met arent time travlers



posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 08:11 PM
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how do you know they are not time travelers .

the very last thing a time traveler will do is tell you , very much like a terrorist who wants to drive planes into a building wants you to know thats what is about to happen to you , what the over all plan is.

if a time traveler is trying to save a specific women in the lobbey of a building ... he will not walk up and tell her "follow me if you want to live "... he will find a fire fighter who is going to die in a few minutes.... tell him , " see that women , get her out of there . DON'T just stand there ... MOVE ! "

and the fire fighter will follow his nature , mission complete .

and then the tower may fall and she will never know , and nothing but one item of history will change with out any hint , or trace .

the ghosts are not spirits of lost souls , its energy that is an articfact of the traveler , seen only by persons who were directly or indirectly effected by the temporal event shift of time line change .

angels , gods and demons are not fictional , but simply points of veiw that are painted to tell a story away from the truth .

they want us to beleive in other worlds , off planet civilazations...
or their tasks become more difficult .

its all a miss informations game , with a team that can replay the battle a million times to get the right out come .



posted on Nov, 8 2009 @ 07:43 AM
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Ijust recently read the latest issue of Planetary # 27 in which The writer "Warren Ellis" writes about time travel :


The means by which they do this is both simple and exceedingly complicated as Ellis delivers page after page of theoretical physics regarding time travel,


very cool issue FYI

go here for more info www.comicbookresources.com...

For those who have never read this series - its very good!




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