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It's time for us to come together.

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posted on Aug, 28 2009 @ 07:45 PM
reply to post by jsobecky

I don't know what it was about today's news that tipped you over the edge, but just remember.... Your daughter relies upon you to give her a better world than the one you were born into. Don't let her down.

The news of the banks threatening collapse....the war....really everything jso. I hope you realize that I just want what is best for you do. No matter what side people choose to be on...most of us all want the same thing. Sometimes hope gives way to helplessness. After almost a year of following's been a complete disaster. It's difficult to be optimistic...although I've really tried lately.

But most of all...I will defend the livelyhood of my daughter to my last dying breathe...she we always come first...and I feel that most anyone feels that way.

posted on Aug, 28 2009 @ 07:47 PM
A miracle, a blessing, a responsibility, a new perspective on life. I hope your faith gives you the strength to weather out the storms of life.

[edit on 28/8/09 by John Matrix]

posted on Aug, 28 2009 @ 07:47 PM
reply to post by David9176

David I know how you feel. Sometimes after a night on ATS, I feel as though I am approaching despair, an emotional I am completely unfamiliar with, and not a pleasant one.

Having a child has induced certain paternal instincts, and you are understandably wanting to protect, and guard against events you might fear in the future. So for now stay centered in the present. (This is not as easy as it sounds). We have to do what we can to improve the world, yes, but there is only so much we, as simple humans, can do. So try to stay in the present. What happened one minute ago is officially the past. A minute from now has not arrived. We have only this one minute. This now. Stay in it and savor it. It's all we really have.

Maybe my point here is, to not expend too much of your energy with anxiety over issues such as these. To focus on what you do have and what you do know to be important.

But after having said all are, of course, absolutely right. We do need to come together. Nobody seems to know how to make that happen right now. I do agree with other posters that we are being deliberately kept off balance.

posted on Aug, 28 2009 @ 08:04 PM
reply to post by David9176

Hang in there, young man. Concentrate on your family and how you can keep them safe and secure. Washington has a rude awakening coming, and that right quick. There are times when we all need to take a break from the action, but we all don't need to take it at the same time. We have your back. We'll make sure they are made to own up for their shenanigans.

posted on Aug, 28 2009 @ 11:59 PM
reply to post by David9176

Well the problem is most ppl buy into the left-right paradigm.

They don't see that they are being gamed.

Both sides are fundamentally corrupt, but to be honest it is human nature.

Eisenhower and JFK warned about what is happening as did
the founding fathers, but most ppl are too busy with their lives
and entertainment, sports, or religion to pay any attention.

Some think kneeling and praying will make the pirates stop,
but if you look at history it NEVER has stopped the pirates.

Corruption has existed in every country around the world.

Gandhi managed to kick the british out of India thru peaceful
resistance, and I think his model is the only model that could
work without horrific violence.

Right now we are on the road to revolution as Celente has said.

Only a major shift to something like open government will have a
chance of cutting thru the corruption that always follows power.

Let states deal with their problems, and reduce the Federal Government
back to its originally intended size.

As for the health care start a Co-op like USAA insurance has right now,
and let ppl pay into tax free halth care accounts, outlaw the HMO's that
deny healthcare to ppl can pay huge bonuses to corrupt pirate

If the churches TRULY give a # about the poor they can cover
there portion of the health care costs.

For an idea of what the VA healthcare system can be like watch
Article 99, and Born on the 4th of July if you can stomach it.

Even under shrub some Iraq vets had to sue to get healthcare,
it was covered in mainstream news, totally pathetic hypocrisy.

Get true tort reform, toss the corrupt lawyers that game the system.

Eliminate malpractice insurance, and any malpractice can be dealt
with in the court system.

Our courts are filled with legal trickery for profit and it is time to end it,
and to follow the ppl at LEAPs idea of ending the war on some drugs.

Most of the ppl in prison are there for drug related offenses,
that would take a massive load off the prisons and off the courts.

End the 68 different types of Visas to sneak cheap workers into
the country, restore for the ppl by the ppl.

Stop funding the corrupt and worthless UN, and end all global
government legislation.

End the World Trade organization, trade with countries using political
dissidents as slave labor cannot be competed with ever !

Slave labor goods should be a crime against humanity, not the
US's top importer.

We are a hybrid of a Plutocracy and Kleptocracy and are
no longer a Democratic Republic.

700+ bases in 130+ countries, we are the modern Rome.

Bread and Circuses to keep the public appeased while the
Oligarches impose new layers of taxation.

As Lenin said...

1) "The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them
between the millstones of taxation and inflation. "

2) “The goal of socialism is communism.”

3) “Fascism is capitalism in decay”

4) “Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Bolshevik forever”

5) “There are no morals in politics; there is only expedience. A scoundrel may be of use to us just because he is a scoundrel.”

~ Vladimir Lenin

I think it is far far too late to fix the damage, we are at the 11th hour,
and far far too few are awake and willing to do what Gandhi did to
make his point.

We yet again face 1776 or 1865 but for different reasons.

Good Luck to you all !

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