Suicide statistics not reported!!!

The general concensus (if we listen to Govt. sactioned BS), is that cancer is the No#1 killer.
Then there are the old favorites, such as Alcoholism, Motor Vehicle Accidents...........But I claim Suicide is one of the biggest killers.
Predominately men in their late 30's but younger and older- death does not discriminate!
Forget the tabacco adds you see on TV ( someone squeezing porridge out of balloon); that is supposed to be arterial sclerosis squeezed from an aorta....please!!!
There is some kind of Cloak and dagger act happening in the community where media has been told not to report suicides- the only suicides that do get coverage are High profile: such as heath Ledger ( and that was probably only an accident, on Heaths' behalf!).
I say suicide is one of the biggest killers in the community.
There are many hangings, ballistic, and intentional drug over-doses that never get reported. Why?

reply to post by KRISKALI777


You could well be right here.

The media will always report cluster suicides, such as what happened in Bridgend, but I'm sure there are many that go unreported throughout the world.

And I've noticed that the method of hanging is becoming more and more prevalent.

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This is not a hunch, it is fact!
And very sad. Noramlly they are on a cocktail of pharmaceutical prescriptions; and can get no mental health care ( other than anti-depressants).
Shows the failing of the 'Health care' system.
Jumping in front of trains is another popular one.

reply to post by KRISKALI777


I've known 2 close friends that have killed themselves in front of a train

Really tragic.

As you say, society does'nt give a damn.

reply to post by uk today


I think a lot of us do give a damn. Fact is that we trust our health systems to be able to deal with and treat most illness; as well as mental illness.
When governments closed down institutions, and implement drug therapy as the only treatment, in order to save and make more money; then the problem is shifted back to the community.
It is not uncommon to see an inventory of prescribed medications to the amount of 15-20 different types. How can doctors honestlyknow the interactions of this many drugs together, let alone the tolerance of the individual.
The real shocking truth is that because of this government shift in funding; media is encouraged not to report suicides; it doesn't look good for statistics.

If that is really true I'd say that its probable because they want to keep the illusion of the wonderful American dream.

People feel #ty but they repress their feelings because they tend to believe that they are alone with that mindset, they think they are just weak and that everyone is more then well when in reality everyone is repressing the angst.

Now, if people started knowing that they aren't the only ones feeling like crap then instead of repressing themselves and becoming zombies they would become revolutionaries and would cause havoc towards the system.

So that the system works you gotta make the people believe that it works.

reply to post by Geladinhu


Hi Geladinhu,
actually I was writting about what I encounter here in Australia; but thanks for your input- it seems this enigma indeed spans the globe!
Another poster from the U.K seems to echo the scenario; although we don't get the reports of 'cluster' suicides- they do indeed exist though; which is a very curious event in itself.
Why at times to we have cluster of people suiciding by the same method; full moon? I'd like to see some stats on this- but I suppose thats the type of stats that are well covered-up.

You are absolutely right...we sure don't hear much about it, do we?

According to a couple different searches, it seems to be holding fast at the 11th greatest cause of death in the U.S (it was 11th in 2000 and again in 2006)

www.cdc.gov...

I wonder if it's going to move up a notch. It doesn't look like the CDC has been tracking suicide since 2006....at least I can't find anything there more current....

very interesting.

reply to post by KSPigpen


Hi KS,
should i scream it or you? CONSPIRACY!!!!!!

reply to post by KRISKALI777


Stars for all, and a Flag to the OP. Great topic...not in the morbid sense, but in the fact that Our, or I should say, used to be Our MSM feeds us crud anymore.

I feel like I'm sitting in the movie "The Postman"... Sitting at the military camp of 8, or whatever, and the MSM is feeding us the "Sounds Of Music" over, and over again............... Problem as in the movie most sheeple like the ignorant bliss...

note: Sancho be back in a while

Originally posted by KRISKALI777
reply to post by KSPigpen

 

Hi KS,
should i scream it or you? CONSPIRACY!!!!!!

Not too much of a screamer, myself, KK....but it's 2009....there SHOULD be about TWO MORE YEARS worth of suicide statistics available here in the states...I'm gonna have to do some more lookin...

Concern mounts over rising troop suicides

Canada's military suicide rate doubled in a year, documents show

I googled 'number of suicides in 2007' seems like the WHOLE first page was about MILITARY suicides going through the roof...


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I guess I just find it suprising how we get things such as the dangers of smoking, road accidents etc shoved down our throats, yet one of the biggest killers of young people; we rarely hear about this in the media.

I found a PDF that you guys may find interesting; it has a spreadsheet outlining percentages of suicide in certain countries- although the data does not seem to be chronologically consistent.
Wow, look at Russia!




[edit on 8/28/2009 by KRISKALI777]

Originally posted by KRISKALI777
reply to post by uk today

 

I think a lot of us do give a damn. Fact is that we trust our health systems to be able to deal with and treat most illness; as well as mental illness.
When governments closed down institutions, and implement drug therapy as the only treatment, in order to save and make more money; then the problem is shifted back to the community.
It is not uncommon to see an inventory of prescribed medications to the amount of 15-20 different types. How can doctors honestlyknow the interactions of this many drugs together, let alone the tolerance of the individual.
The real shocking truth is that because of this government shift in funding; media is encouraged not to report suicides; it doesn't look good for statistics.

I worked for a few yrs with homeless people at a council run hostel.
I noticed towards the end of my employment, more and more mentally ill people were being admitted.
They came under the vulnerable category, so the council had to provide shelter for them.

We had no training or experience on this, so really the poor souls were cast adrift in society and left to cope.
We had quite a few that were at risk from suicidal tendencies.
The specialist mental facility at Whixley, had been closed down years ago and I believe is now private housing ??

And yes, the suicide figures are a national and worldwide embarrassment to govts.
And a disgrace.

Originally posted by Geladinhu
If that is really true I'd say that its probable because they want to keep the illusion of the wonderful American dream.

People feel #ty but they repress their feelings because they tend to believe that they are alone with that mindset, they think they are just weak and that everyone is more then well when in reality everyone is repressing the angst.

Now, if people started knowing that they aren't the only ones feeling like crap then instead of repressing themselves and becoming zombies they would become revolutionaries and would cause havoc towards the system.

So that the system works you gotta make the people believe that it works.

I believe that capitalism is the root cause of many peoples anxiety and unhappiness.
Get rid of that demon and the world could be a much happier place.

So much pressure is put on society to work all goddam hours, to maintain or aspire to the capitalist, materialistic lifestyle.
But not everyone can aspire to this, and they feel a failure or deprived of the material, false utopian lifestyle that is constantly being rammed down their throats by the media and advertising.
and I'm sure subliminal is also being used here on occasions.

We need to move away from all this brainwashing and try to somehow lead much more simplistic and happy lives.
Then the suicide stats IMHO would plummet.

reply to post by uk today


I was thoughly interested when watching Zeitgeist Addendum; towards the end of this flick when a professor starts speaking about a paradigm shift in human thought. Taking away the capitalism, which causes unnecessary competion between individuals.
I think you are correct in outlining this as a cause of suicide; there are many 'have-nots' that are cught in a trap of destitution. They cannot even afford the essentials for grooming (in order to be accepted within the inflated expactations of society), thus have no chance of even attempting to change their financial situtions. What results in many cases is, a feeling of hopelessness, lack of purpose. many of these people turn to drugs and/or alcohol as a dampner to their undesirable situation.
It doesn't have to be ellicit drugs either; just go to your doctor, proclaim depression, and see how fast you are prescribed anti-depressants; that dont work either.

reply to post by KRISKALI777


I think too many people though actually think that the pursuit of material gains and so called "status" makes them happy.

Many are unwilling to give up the work till you drop lifestyle, because the fear of not having the latest 50" plasma tv screen and whatever is an unthinkable thought.
Very shallow, but they've been groomed in a way by the media and also govts to believe this is the way it has to be.

You are a complete failure otherwise and might as well be invisible to some people.
unless change happens, which is not going to be easy, suicides will certainly remain with us , reported or unreported.