Better add that men like to go to bed later than women, we have no control over snoring, and the volume of the TV is not a personal attack on you. Trust me, we are as offended by your early rising and inability to be quiet in the morning while we are trying to sleep as you are at the volume of the TV at night time.

Being in the living room is not "checking out on you, or abandonment" and we hear you snore every night of the week, we just don't feel that mentioning it is worth the bit** session.

I don't agree with characterizing all men one way or another. We are all humans. You wouldn't like a post saying that "women like money" or "women can't help being petty"

Originally posted by DieterDengler
Better add that men like to go to bed later than women, we have no control over snoring, and the volume of the TV is not a personal attack on you. Trust me, we are as offended by your early rising and inability to be quiet in the morning while we are trying to sleep as you are at the volume of the TV at night time.

The opposite is true with me, I like to stay up late and usually the guy is the one who bugs me to come to bed.

It's pretty interesting, with the exception of a few points I seem to identify more with the men's point of view than the women's. But it's been fun reading all the responses here and on Greenize's thread.

Originally posted by MrJelly
MOST OF YOU ALL WRONG.
I will keep it simple..I observe reality, unlike most of you delusional fools.
yea I said it. read


1. Women want one thing...SEX. Having kids is a way of securing a husband (husband can be a MAN or THE STATE) figure it out for yourself
2. MEN WANT ONE THING ... A PAT on the BACK "good job" scooby snack.
Any man would rather fuk a woman ONCE and have her tell him and all the people she knows that he is amazing than have sex with that woman every day for a month.
Look at WHO is doing the hard work during sex.
look at what a man is trying to do during sex...please the female.


3. men are EMOTIONAL...women are PHYSICAL.
SO SIMPLE YET MOST OF YOU ARE DELUSIONAL coz you go to movies and believe what is in it without using YOUR BRAIN.
only reason men have cars is coz of this factore
Women...shoes and bags.
hell, women keep their shoes on during sex. Men get bent up and emotional once they have sex with a woman. YOU ALL KNOW ITS TRUE. regardless of what they show in movies the reality is THAT.

4. most woman can EASILY detach themselves from sex and emotion
Most men can NOT DO THIS.

I can go on and on but I wont. Figure the rest out.
by the way
here is a hint
FLIP IT AROUND.. look at what they call Romantic movies and look at what they call Porno. One is supposedly REALITY and one is Fantasy. NOW FLIP IT.
Anyone that has dated many women and many TYPES of women will understand this simple law of nature.
again, when I say ALL women or all men I mean 95 percent.

This is nothing more than the antithesis of what women really are. We get it, you're pissed at men....you can wake up and snap back into reality now. The dream is over. Just because you say something that is absurd.....doesn't make it a reality. All you did here was embarass yourself.

[edit on 30-8-2009 by Phenomium]

Originally posted by Phenomium
This is nothing more than the antithesis of what women really are. We get it, you're pissed at men....you can wake up and snap back into reality now. The dream is over. Just because you say something that is absurd.....doesn't make it a reality. All you did here was embarass yourself.

It seems like you're the one who's pissed at men.

Damod, you say:
“1. Men are not emotional creatures………..”

****I have wondered about this for a long time. Do you think that this is because of upbringing? . The “boys aren’t supposed to cry” thing, and the general social attitude in that regard?

“2. Men take things literally.”

****I take things literally too. My answers to questions usually come off literal..
This has gotten me in trouble many times. It frustrates my younger son to no end.
I dislike having to reinterpret what people are saying.

I have to disagree that men need more time alone than women.
I could out do you or most any man on the time alone thing.

If I ask you how I look, its OK if you say “just fine”, but it would be nice if you leaned over and kissed me on the cheek when you said it.

Maybe those men who are getting “talked down to” are less intelligent than the woman.
I’ve always had the idea that I should be able to look up to a man.
Sadly this is not always possible as there are so many men who are really such jerks.
Definition of “jerk” could be quit lengthy…so I leave it to your imagination.

No MOST men do not leave socks on the floor. And the methane thing,,,well I’d sure change you diet.

“10. Men get drawn into things…..focused on something…”
****NOT a specific man thing. I do that and have always done that. Frustrates the heck out people, I know. People at work got so that they would say, “May I have your attention, your undivided attention?”

The “honey do” thing.... I’m a believer that if you want something done and done right..do it yourself. I hate asking someone to bring me some whatever…too often they brging the wrong thing.

Like and dislike subject matter is not gender specific. I like science and history and related. I even understand most of how a car works. Once even had to instruct the garge mechanic how to find a water leak.

Getting hung up on the likes of video games is sheer addiction idiocy.
I would hope that you had a keener mind than that.

“ In charge of the remote”
If you're that hung up on TV it will be one of the things you get to do alone.

Uhmmm…“go to a bar; the nite out?”
What if your lady wants to do the same thing?
Is that OK with you?

Girls need their toys too, do you have a problem with that?
Power tools? I have to use your portable drill there for a few minutes, OK?
Need help with that particle accelerator?

Lol I think this is going to take a while.

Originally posted by OhZone
Damod, you say:
“1. Men are not emotional creatures………..”

****I have wondered about this for a long time. Do you think that this is because of upbringing? . The “boys aren’t supposed to cry” thing, and the general social attitude in that regard?

It may have something to do with that.

“2. Men take things literally.”

****I take things literally too. My answers to questions usually come off literal..
This has gotten me in trouble many times. It frustrates my younger son to no end.
I dislike having to reinterpret what people are saying.

I was speaking more along the lines of, subtly is lost on us.

I have to disagree that men need more time alone than women.
I could out do you or most any man on the time alone thing.

If I ask you how I look, its OK if you say “just fine”, but it would be nice if you leaned over and kissed me on the cheek when you said it.

If you need more alone time then that is you, I know it my case I have needed much more than my significant other on many occasions. She complains actually that I don't spend every free second with her.

Maybe those men who are getting “talked down to” are less intelligent than the woman.
I’ve always had the idea that I should be able to look up to a man.
Sadly this is not always possible as there are so many men who are really such jerks.
Definition of “jerk” could be quit lengthy…so I leave it to your imagination.

In my experience with relationships like these, the woman eventually becomes a power hungry $*&% always accusing you of things you didn't do and without any evidence, telling you what to do or else (random threat here) ordering you around, bringing you down whenever possible with slight short moments of affection just to build you up to break you down again. This girl would laugh at me while she did it. The same lady I treated very well, and she would go out of her way just to make me miserable. Thankfully I learned my lesson with women like that. It had nothing to do with intelligence, more a need to be a evil horrible *(&$(#(#*&%(*#$&(*#(^(^(*&%(*&#*(&#.

No MOST men do not leave socks on the floor. And the methane thing,,,well I’d sure change you diet.

Yes.. Yes we do leave our socks on the floor. If yours doesn't you are lucky.

Yes we all fart, if you don't hear your man doing it then he went out of his way to silence it. We can fart without drawing attention to ourselves after all.

“10. Men get drawn into things…..focused on something…”
****NOT a specific man thing. I do that and have always done that. Frustrates the heck out people, I know. People at work got so that they would say, “May I have your attention, your undivided attention?”

Well, we do it too. Many women will tell you its like they are talking to a brick wall when the tv is on or they are surfing the net. They would be right, you might as well be talking to a brick wall. Physical contact is a good attention getter.

The “honey do” thing.... I’m a believer that if you want something done and done right..do it yourself. I hate asking someone to bring me some whatever…too often they brging the wrong thing.

Try telling that to my wife.

Like and dislike subject matter is not gender specific. I like science and history and related. I even understand most of how a car works. Once even had to instruct the garage mechanic how to find a water leak.

There is a sister thread designed for women. That one is gender specific and more hostile than this one.

Getting hung up on the likes of video games is sheer addiction idiocy.
I would hope that you had a keener mind than that.

Lol.. Just LOL!! That is a really closed minded way of looking at it. I've played RPGs with puzzles that would make John Nash scratch his head.

“ In charge of the remote”
If you're that hung up on TV it will be one of the things you get to do alone.

COOL!

Uhmmm…“go to a bar; the nite out?”
What if your lady wants to do the same thing?
Is that OK with you?

Go ahead, have fun!

Girls need their toys too, do you have a problem with that?
Power tools? I have to use your portable drill there for a few minutes, OK?
Need help with that particle accelerator?

What for? lol!!

You think you could accelerate some neutrons while i take some readings? Thx... I will find the elusive GRAVITON!!!! (no I won't because they are fictional particles... Might as well be looking for dark matter...)

[edit on 1-9-2009 by DaMod]

Damod, Subtly is lost on me too. I don’t take hints well.


“Girls need their toys too, do you have a problem with that?
Power tools? I have to use your portable drill there for a few minutes, OK?
Need help with that particle accelerator?”

“What for? lol!! “
****What do we need toys for?
Like sewing machine, like my art supplies.. I have $2000 just in pencils, and paints.
I’d need that drill to put a handle on this cabinet. And I use it to drill holes in containers for plants. And to put a stop screw in the mail box post so that the mail box won’t slide off. Need the drill as a screw driver there.I’ll probably make a starter hole. Of course, I wouldn’t have to do this if you had done it. I asked you to and you didn’t…so I’ll just do it myself.
Actually I can think of more interesting things to do than that particle accelerator.
I’m curious about electronic things and would like to build a variable frequency generator.
I have some plans, but don’t understand the language of they symbols on the diagram.
Surely you do? That is why I look up to you.

If you don’t pick up your socks and put them in the laundry basket they aren’t going to get washed.

Trust me, you won’t have as much methane on what I feed you.

I believe that men don't really view woman as real human beings. This opinion is based on a life time of observation and experience. As an example:

I conducted an online experiment by talking with several survivalists. Half of them I told I was a man. They asked me about my knowledge, training, skills, equipment and supplies, etc. The other half I told I was a woman. They asked for my picture.

I can't speak for all women but, in my case, I'm direct (some say "blunt"), like my space and could easily comply with most of the items on the OP's list but I've reached the age where I'm invisible to men. Except the 20 year olds. What's up with that?

As far as being put on the "friend" list. I don't count all my acquaintances as friends. When someone makes it onto my friend list, they have my absolute loyalty and devotion.

Nice guys DON'T finish last. Some of us are just so surprised to find one that we take a loooooong time trying to figure out what their "game" is. Surely, it's not an honest-to-god-for-real-good guy?!

Hygiene is important. That includes dental hygiene. You can't seriously expect a woman to kiss you if you have broken, rotting teeth. If you want us coiffed, perfumed, painted and scantily draped, you need to at least take a shower.

Please don't ask to borrow my power tools. I have yet had a male borrow my power tools that took good care of them or put them back where they got them. Please don't ask to drive my car. It's not a ferrari and you're not Mario Andretti.

I think a lot of the silly things men and women argue over could be settled with a healthy dose of respect and mutuality. The golden rule applies in all relationships and since even women are real human beings, not objects, being with one means being in a relationship.

I don't want to be objectified even if it's in a good way, ie: object of desire, object of worship, object of your undying love, etc. Women are not objects. We are real people.

I have emailed this to my girlfriend haha



hope it has an impact.





great post