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Originally posted by mmiichael
Except this is fantasy thinking. Osama bin Laden's activities, practically week by week, have been tracked going back to the early 1980s. Thousands of people, most still alive, met him, talked with him, worked with him.
We have documentation, testimony, communication records of him involving 9/11, and the period afterward. There is zero doubt of his existence and direct involvement.
It is likely he died sometime between 2002 and 2004. Reports vary.
The videos with him in the last few years used substitutes and old footage.
He was given the green light to wage his jihad against the West by the Saudi royal family, on the condition he did it outside the Kingdom.
Many Americans have trouble with the notion that the Muslim world planned and executed a major attack on the US as a clear and unambiguous statement they wanted a confrontation and on their terms.
Many will disagree, but some people just choose to live in perpetual denial.
[edit on 26-8-2009 by mmiichael]
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Originally posted by mmiichael
I didn't give your thoughts enough consideration when I replied. Sorry.
Someone else brought up this comparison in a nasty context and I overreacted.
Orwell wrote 1984 in 1945-6. The Goldstein references are obviously to absentee father of the Russian Revolution, Leon Trotsky, whose real name was Bronstein. Maybe an aside reference to Emma Goldman, the famous anarchist.
Bin Laden is a special case as he died not long after his great coup. The Muslim world and his own organization have not announced his death. The closest was a slip up by Benazhir Bhutto.
So the West has responded by going along. If his own people don't want to say he's dead, then neither will we.
But the charade wears thin and no one wants to keep up the pretense.
He was a useful champion for one team, and a useful demon for the other.
Osama is dead. Long live Osama.
Originally posted by king9072
haha perpetual denial?
Show me "We have documentation, testimony, communication records of him involving 9/11, and the period afterward. There is zero doubt of his existence and direct involvement"
Do you want to know why I know that you can't produce that? Because he was never, ever charged with any crime related to 911. If there was evidence, he would have been.
The reason why there was contact with the guy was because he was trained by the CIA as well as funded to fight the Russians. That's common knowledge. It's also common knowledge that the Bush family and the Administration, had intimate business links with the entire Bin Laden family.
The reason you don't ever hear about him is cause he was a patsy, his usefulness as the media bad guy was over and they never had a reason to bring him up in the first place.
Originally posted by LurkMoarson
I have been wondering this too, where is he.
Originally posted by marcus33cz
You ask what happened to bin Laden?
First of all, he was an artificial - made up - enemy. I'm not saying he didn't exist. But he was put into the role of pure evil, something like Hitler.
The goal was that when you say bin Laden people will go crazy and won't ask any questions when the government puts more and more money into the war in Afghanistan (most of the money doesn't go there anyway).
Benazir Bhutto (a Pakistani politician, the first woman elected to lead a Muslim state) returned to Pakistan after a 9-year-long exile (in Dubai 1998-2007). A month after the return she said bin Laden is dead, another month later she was murdered...
There's only one country that profits from the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and it's not the US.