One of these days, chemtrails, 9/11 truths will show !

There is hope for the 9/11_ers or chemtrail_ers or other_ers [_ists?].

We all know that many advancements in science, have started with what
the **eyes** can see, and the **common sense**.

At the beginning, for 9/11 and chemtrails and others, it was the eyes and common
sense that did have people say: "There is something wrong, there".

Scientificaly proofs will come later, by "researches" or "leaks" !

We could compare the theorists progress to this abreviated history :
www.cartage.org.lb...

***Suppose*** that in the past years , there where 1,000,000,000 persons.
ALL of them where sure that the earth was **the center of the universe** ! ! !
" It is bizarre ? Some planets move backwards, for short times !?"
" It is surely revolving on its smaler circle, its epicycle ?!"

Then later, one day, ONE person discovered :
The earth is ALSO revolving around the sun.
So, that person, using his "eyes", and his **brain/maths**, and ***common sense***,
concluded that the earth was orbiting around the sun, but had to hide it ! !

Later, when the telescope was invented, it could be prooved with
that new point-of-view, and by seeing the other planets ! !
www.newsahead.com...

Soooooo, one day, 999,999,999 persons where sure/certain the earth was THE center !
Soooooo, one same day, ONE person whas certain/sure the earth was ALSO orbiting !
???? WHO WAS RIGHT ???? using eyes and brain and common sense ???

Sooooo, ONE DAY, the chemtrails, 9/11, and other_certainties will be demonstrated
scientificaly, with measuring instruments/equipements and the like !

Blue skies.


[edit on 2009/8/26 by C-JEAN]

You are repeating a myth. Well, more than one, but I mean the one about the flat Earth.

It must first be reiterated that with extraordinary few exceptions no educated person in the history of Western Civilization from the third century B.C. onward believed that the earth was flat. A round earth appears at least as early as the sixth century BC with Pythagoras, who was followed by Aristotle, Euclid, and Aristarchus, among others in observing that the earth was a sphere. Although there were a few dissenters--Leukippos and Demokritos for example--by the time of Eratosthenes (3 c. BC), followed by Crates(2 c. BC), Strabo (3 c. BC), and Ptolemy (first c. AD), the sphericity of the earth was accepted by all educated Greeks and Romans.

www.asa3.org...

[edit on 8/26/2009 by Phage]

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Thank you Phage....when people throw out that ol' chestnut about "everybody thought the Earth was flat!!!!", it does nothing but demonstrate their general ignorance about the state of humanity's intellect....and further serves to drag it further into the gutter.

Cool guys. Glad I learned something, because of you.

See the edited version, now.
It's only to show that:
Often times, the eyes see the things, before the science do.

[ As for the black holes: The maths did "reason" them, and now they
are demonstrated by their indirects effects on stars around them.
But this is not the topic. . . B-) ]

Blue skies.

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Hi C-JEAN. good to see You posting. I wouldn't sweat Phage, or the other guys comments. I think there is an overwhelming amount of evidence pointing towards the realities of said conspiracies. S&F.

Hi, old thread readers !

I have seen this image yesterday,

blogomata.wordpress.com...
blogomata.wordpress.com/2010/02/08/the-flammarion-woodcut/

and it reminded me of these old exchanges including a desinformation answer
about the non existence of the "flat earth" believers of the past. . .

In the days, I edited "flat earth" to "earth in the center". . .
because I did not check the "no flat answer".

Blue skies.

a reply to: C-JEAN

and it reminded me of these old exchanges including a desinformation answer
about the non existence of the "flat earth" believers of the past. . .

What disinformation? Read what I quoted those years ago.

Did you miss this part from your source?

However, two scholars, Arthur Beer, an astrophysicist and historian of German science at Cambridge, and Bruno Weber, the curator of rare books at the Zürich central library, have independently traced the illustration back to Camille Flammarion’s popular science book L’atmosphère: météorologie populaire from 1888.

blogomata.wordpress.com...

As your source says:

Second, the illustration is famous on account of its rich symbolism which is taken to represent the mediaeval world-view.

An inaccurate, late 19th century, assessment of the midieval world view. As the quote I provided says, the vast majority of educated people have known for a very long time that the world is round.