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10 year old Child bride turned over to 80-year-old husband

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posted on Aug, 27 2009 @ 07:22 PM
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Lets make it simple.

Change these sick laws or we will not give you money.
Change these sick laws or we will not recognise you as a country.
Change these laws, not because it is the right thing to do, but if you don't, we, as a country, are going to make life suck for you and your people so bad, that you will come begging to us to be nice again.

Want money? Change the damn law!
Want global recognition? Change the damn law!
Want food for your people? Change the damn law!
Want us to buy oil? Change the damn law!
Want protection from your enemies? Change the damn law!


Want to stay in power?

Change the damn law.

edit to add; please forgive the language. I felt it was appropriate. I wanted/used this to convey the emotional commitment I hand to the topic.

Mike

[edit on 27-8-2009 by mikerussellus]




posted on Aug, 27 2009 @ 08:19 PM
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reply to post by Hazelnut
 


I totally agree! she is much to young for marriage in the first place, but

to a 80 yr. old man, this is all totally sick.



posted on Aug, 27 2009 @ 09:56 PM
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I don't think most of the posters in this thread understand the impact of Sharia law. This little girl is not an isolated incident. The practice of child brides is common place.
More importantly Sharia law is happening in the US right in from of our eyes and we aren't doing much to stop it from creeping into our country.
Here is a girl in child custody in Florida:
washingtontimes.com...
Here are muslims demanding special treatment for their holidays in Colorado:
www.jihadwatch.org...

More and more incidents are creeping in to the West at an alarming rate. So yes, we need zero tolerance very quickly. Write your local news papers, contact the companies that cave to "culture" of Islam, speak out and stop this plague.



posted on Aug, 27 2009 @ 11:41 PM
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Originally posted by ravenshadow13
reply to post by JJay55
 


It's not my culture and it's not my country and it's not my business.



It is your world so it is your business.

You can't just turn a blind eye to things because you choose to separate yourself from other people through artificial boundaries.



posted on Aug, 28 2009 @ 12:15 AM
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Originally posted by mikerussellus
reply to post by ravenshadow13
 


Lets make it simple.

Change these sick laws or we will not give you money.
Change these sick laws or we will not recognise you as a country.
Change these laws, not because it is the right thing to do, but if you don't, we, as a country, are going to make life suck for you and your people so bad, that you will come begging to us to be nice again.

Want money? Change the damn law!
Want global recognition? Change the damn law!
Want food for your people? Change the damn law!
Want us to buy oil? Change the damn law!
Want protection from your enemies? Change the damn law!


Want to stay in power?

Change the damn law.

edit to add; please forgive the language. I felt it was appropriate. I wanted/used this to convey the emotional commitment I hand to the topic.

Mike

[edit on 27-8-2009 by mikerussellus]


As noble as you sound, you wouldn't make a good politician.

You would create an economic embargo, previous to an invasion of a sovereign nation, and dominate them as a conqueror, conflicts with aligned nations not factored in. End result, loss of hundreds to thousands from starvation from embargoes, thousands more on both sides from military conflict.

Nobody wins, nobody is a hero.

You, my friend are not a hero today.

[edit on 28-8-2009 by TSer78]



posted on Aug, 29 2009 @ 06:18 AM
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I think the UN was designed to be the central location for instances like this. Humans would take a complaint before a council of elders from all over the world and present their injustices. The only problem with the 80 years old groom and his child bride is that the culture from where it comes doesn't think it is an injustice. This mindset will not change. So now what?
We have a clash of civilization.

What happens at a clash of civilization??? What can we expect next?
Maybe one trying to dominate? And the West fighting off domination?
What other points in history were major clashes of civilization?



posted on Aug, 29 2009 @ 06:41 AM
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Maatouq Al-Abdullah, a member of the National Society for Human Rights (NSHR), said there is no system in place regulating the marriage of young girls, something that he said results in adverse psychological, health and social effects.

"adverse psychological, health and social effects"... that has to be the biggest understatement of the decade.

im sorry but humans make me sick. there is so much of this happening to young girls worldwide. its just incomprehensibly sick and monstrous.



posted on Aug, 29 2009 @ 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by rapunzel222


Maatouq Al-Abdullah, a member of the National Society for Human Rights (NSHR), said there is no system in place regulating the marriage of young girls, something that he said results in adverse psychological, health and social effects.

"adverse psychological, health and social effects"... that has to be the biggest understatement of the decade.

im sorry but humans make me sick. there is so much of this happening to young girls worldwide. its just incomprehensibly sick and monstrous.

What bothers me most is that in Islam it is accepted that these things happen to young girls and not much is done to stop it. There is no shame attached to men in this culture for their abusive behavior. Girls and women are treated like a possession that should be used and discarded. Laws are designed to encourage this behavior rather than punish men. The patriarch dominance makes Islam one that will attempt to conquer and spread and there are definate signs that this is happening worldwide.

By making Americans aware of the creeping plague of Islam and their behavior and laws hopefully we can rise up against this monster. It is coming quickly and there will be a bloody battle.



posted on Aug, 29 2009 @ 02:07 PM
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Part of me thinks it is a bit ironic, in that some of those on this thread feel intense support for this child (I do and agree), but fight against health care in the USA which will give all children (yes and adults) health care.

Seems a bit "ironic" to me.

But I would guess supporting human rights for someone that does not involve your pocketbooks, is different than supporting human rights for someone that does involve your pocketbook.

All I know to say is, if you support human rights, then you should support human rights in all cases. Not just the times it does not personally effect you.

It is easy to say on the internet that what is taking place to this ten year old child is abuse (I agree it is and should be stopped), but to me seems a way to console certain people's consciousness in regards to the children of this country (USA) who do not have health care.

Sorry for a bit of derailing, just felt the need to point out the irony I see in regards to certain posters.

Harm None
Peace



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 04:26 AM
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Interesting analogy.
Islamic law supports child abuse. 30% reported cases = 60 million victims.
US law neglects childrens health needs. 9 million victims.

Difference is that Islamic law protects the men who perform pedophialia whereas the US law tries to provide for children but fails financially. And what can we control as humans in both these examples?
1. The desire of a man to be with a girl under 18, no law enforcement.
2. The financial system of health care.

The US is currently working on health care reform. Islam is not working on protecting children, or women, or stopping violence, stopping jihad, or making any changes.



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 06:28 AM
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Rifqa Bary is all over the news. She is a Christian girl who converted from Islam. Florida child custody has her safe. Her parents in Ohio want her back to kill her because Sharia law says that the penalty for converting is death.
This is in the US!!!!!

FOX is asking viewers to call the governor of the state of Florida to make sure this girl does not get sent back to her parents.
This is another example of honor killing. In the US!!!!!!!!!!



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 08:30 AM
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And we have this other story about some nut and his nutty side kick (his wife), snatching up some 11 year old, keeping her in a back yard prison for 18 years, knocking her up TWICE, then banging her kids (I assume both girls) as well.

And then they found the bodies.

They need to change the laws in the US. And here it is. This is going to be graphic but not pornographic so there's my warning:
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If you are 25 or older and you put your penis in the vagina or anus of someone under 18 (17 or under), you WILL be executed. This law would apply in all 50 states, our US territories, military bases, embassies, and if you are traveling abroad.

And parental consent to excuse this law for some odd ball situation would require authorization from a judge and jury. CPS would be there, lawyers would be there. And society would be assured this exception was truly in the best interest of the minor.

(Example: Miley Cyrus, 15, and her 20 year old boyfriend who her dad approves of because he's an idiot.)

Once on death row, you are fast tracked so a decision to execute or release you is made in 5 years or less.

(That should already exist for all death row inmates.)

In fact, I will take this a step further;

Someone 14-17 may consent to someone up to 24 months their senior.

Someone 10-13 may consent to someone up to 12 months their senior.

For 9 and under, the local government/police would investigate all sexual activity involving a child to ensure 1) it's with someone within 12 months the younger person's age and 2) that everything is otherwise on the up and up.

And if parents are allowing KIDS to mess around or the kids are so unsupervised they can get away with it, the parenting is NOT on the up and up.

Civil opinions are welcome, pro or con.



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 09:25 AM
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dude. the topic is about Sharia law.



posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by ravenshadow13
reply to post by DrumsRfun
 


If it was my child, of course it wouldn't happen.

But the person whose child it WAS, the father, authorized the marriage. Obviously the child did not.

If it was my child over there, I would contact the government and remind them that this is against the charter that they signed which set the adult age at 18. If they refused to take action, I would sue. If that didn't work, I would contact the UN.

If they had never signed this charter and it was my child, I would use my parental rights as a citizen of this country to have the child live with me and I would also use my rights as an American to overrule the marriage.

These options would not be available to the family and if the country had not signed the charter, it would have to go through unless the government of that country felt strongly against it because of the bad publicity.

[edit on 8/26/2009 by ravenshadow13]


You're a woman aren't you?? In sharia law you would have no say in what happens to your child. The father gets to sell the daughter to whomever he wants.



posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 10:40 AM
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Exactly!!! Women have few rights in sharia law, the men make all the decisions.
Many Americans can't understand that there is such a place in the world where women are secondary and have to cover themselves in public or they are lashed and even killed simply for that. 57 OIC countries.



posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 11:26 AM
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Yes, Human Rights are not important. Brutality in the name of culture is totally okay, and acceptable. We should never be disgusted by this, as it make us intolerant.

If this is your culture, I don't give a crap that you don't like that I find you disgusting. People do this are disgusting, and the crutch of calling it "culture" doesn't absolve one from being disgusting and perverted.



posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 11:34 AM
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Yet, these disgusting people hold the resource of oil and can do as they please, unfortunately.



posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by JJay55
I think the UN was designed to be the central location for instances like this. Humans would take a complaint before a council of elders from all over the world and present their injustices.


A noble thought. Unfortunately the UN is worthless when it comes to Human rights. Their members, so eloquently blab on and on about human rights, and their goals and desires, but they have proved to be completely ineffective in enforcing it. They lack the will and the backbone to actually do anything about it.

This may change in the future, but for now it is totally irresponsible to expect the UN to solve any of mans problems.

Just consider for a moment the countries that are on the Human Rights council and then examine their individual records.
Saudi Arabia sits on the Human Rights council, they don't even allow their women to drive! Do you think they have any real interest or concern for 10 year old girls! China, a country where Child slavery is common, also sits on the Human Rights council.

No one should fool themselves for one moment that the UN has the will to do anything about human rights.

www2.ohchr.org...


[edit on 8/31/2009 by Sparky63]

[edit on 8/31/2009 by Sparky63]



posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 12:43 PM
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Also consider who is next in line to be President of the UN Council for Human Rights.

New York, March 26, 2009 – A Libyan diplomat, Ali Triki, is expected to become the next President of the United Nations General Assembly, for 2009-2010 (the 64th GA Session). The African Union endorsed Libya to nominate a candidate in early 2008, and Triki – a Special Adviser to Libya’s head of state Muammar Qadhafi – is the country’s nominee. The election will take place in the GA plenary in June.

www.unelections.org.../1126

PLease consider for a moment his background in human rights:


Triki’s tenure in Qadhafi’s 40-year administration has spanned a period of time that includes “the bombing of a Berlin discotheque in 1986, the bombing of Pan Am flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, in 1988; as well as the 1996 massacre of inmates of Libya’s Abu Salim prison, and the repression and jailing of democratic dissidents, such as Fathi Eljahmi, to this day,” according to a Forbes.com column. When Libya hanged two students who opposed Qadhafi in 1984, then-Foreign Minister Triki reportedly said, when asked to explain the executions, “Sometimes you need it.”


The point is that to look to the UN or any worthless charter to address this issue is foolish in my opinion.

The situation for this particular 10 year old is not good, to say the least. The harm already done to her will not be fixed by anyone posting here.

The only solution is removing the cultural ideology that condones & promotes such barbarism. This is a responsibility of all caring individuals. The first step is removing the radical fundamental elements of their religious structure. This has been done in other countries by denying them power and control.



posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 12:52 PM
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The founding fathers of this country believed in inalienable rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. These were not rights possessed only by Americans, but to all mankind. The inalienable rights of this child and countless other children like her are being abused.

It matters not what her culture accepts or her family allows. I know hundreds of Muslims and everyone I have talked to are disgusted by this. They would like nothing better than to see the radical fundamental promoters of Sharia to be banished from power no matter what country they resided in.

For the US or any other nation to sit quietly while these atrocities are carried on condemns them as silent conspirators in my opinion.




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