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Originally posted by sos37
I've asked my dad the same question several times - why even read the Old Testament if the rules have changed. Why even have it there? He told me in order to answer that question you have to read the New Testament.
His answer always baffled me - until I actually read the New Testament.
Originally posted by monkcaw
Moses may very well have authored Deuteronomy and perhaps other books of the Old Testament.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by VinceP1974
Originally posted by princeofpeace
I ask you this: "why should you?"
I take people at their word when they describe their motivations and experiences.
I do, too! In a recent thread that has since been removed, you called for all Arabs residing in Gaza strip to be executed by the same method as used on Rachel Corrie, namely running a bulldozer over them. So I take you at your word and I interpret it as your deep-deated hatred of Arabs and Islam.
but forgive me I haven't been indoctrinated.
You were not? So you were born in that condition?
Acts 15:1 Now some men came down from Judea and began to teach the brothers, “Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved.” When Paul and Barnabas had a major argument and debate with them, the church appointed Paul and Barnabas and some others from among them to go up to meet with the apostles and elders in Jerusalem about this point of disagreement. So they were sent on their way by the church, and as they passed through both Phoenicia and Samaria, they were relating at length the conversion of the Gentiles and bringing great joy to all the brothers. When they arrived in Jerusalem, they were received by the church and the apostles and the elders, and they reported all the things God had done with them. But some from the religious party of the Pharisees who had believed stood up and said, “It is necessary to circumcise the Gentiles and to order them to observe the law of Moses.”
Both the apostles and the elders met together to deliberate about this matter. After there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, “Brothers, you know that some time ago God chose me to preach to the Gentiles so they would hear the message of the gospel and believe. And God, who knows the heart, has testified to them by giving them the Holy Spirit just as he did to us, and he made no distinction between them and us, cleansing their hearts by faith. So now why are you putting God to the test by placing on the neck of the disciples a yoke that neither our ancestors nor we have been able to bear? On the contrary, we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, in the same way as they are.”
The whole group kept quiet and listened to Barnabas and Paul while they explained all the miraculous signs and wonders God had done among the Gentiles through them. After they stopped speaking, James replied, “Brothers, listen to me. Simeon has explained how God first concerned himself to select from among the Gentiles a people for his name. The words of the prophets agree with this, as it is written,
‘After this I will return,
and I will rebuild the fallen tent of David;
I will rebuild its ruins and restore it,
so that the rest of humanity may seek the Lord,
namely, all the Gentiles I have called to be my own,’ says the Lord, who makes these things known from long ago.
“Therefore I conclude that we should not cause extra difficulty for those among the Gentiles who are turning to God, but that we should write them a letter telling them to abstain from things defiled by idols and from sexual immorality and from what has been strangled and from blood. For Moses has had those who proclaim him in every town from ancient times, because he is read aloud in the synagogues every Sabbath.”
Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to send men chosen from among them, Judas called Barsabbas and Silas, leaders among the brothers, to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They sent this letter with them
From the apostles and elders, your brothers, to the Gentile brothers and sisters in Antioch, Syria, and Cilicia, greetings! Since we have heard that some have gone out from among us with no orders from us and have confused you, upsetting your minds by what they said, we have unanimously decided to choose men to send to you along with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul, who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas who will tell you these things themselves in person. For it seemed best to the Holy Spirit and to us not to place any greater burden on you than these necessary rules that you abstain from meat that has been sacrificed to idols and from blood and from what has been strangled and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from doing these things, you will do well. Farewell.
Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by ModernAcademia
Born Again Christians..
Using kids to bring a message of hate is pretty low.. really not much else to say about that..
Originally posted by Ha`la`tha
Interesting... Once more a subject about Islam turns into a Christianity bash fest.
I wonder how that always happens. People are so scared to even criticize Islam, that they go tooth and nail at Christianity.
Almost as if it's a conditioned response...
Originally posted by nine0099thousand
I was raised a christian, and still follow Jesus... but
there is only one way to God, only one way to salvation, and that is through the blood of Jesus. Through the repenting of your sins and being born again
that line makes me sick to my stomach everytime I hear it. Clueless morons.
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.