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Originally posted by halfmanhalfamazing
I suppose they have a point... Islam is the Devil and Scientology is his son
"Everything is the devil to you, Mama! Well, I like school, and I like football! And I'm gonna keep doin' them both because they make me feel good!"
Originally posted by IAF101
To Christians, Jesus is the only way to God. So it is written in the Bible and so it is taught to all Christians. Those that dont believe this to be true, are not Christians. Its as simple as that.
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Originally posted by IAF101
To Christians, Jesus is the only way to God. So it is written in the Bible and so it is taught to all Christians. Those that dont believe this to be true, are not Christians. Its as simple as that.
So in other words to be a good and true christian you must
1) Kill non-believers, even if it's your own son or daughter
2) Worship a mass-murderer
3) Advocate Rape and Slavery and rape of slaves
4) Kill everyone in Iraq(babylon)
5) Advocate Human Sacrifice
So you mean to say that if one is a true Chrisitian they MUST believe all the above and truly be the scum of the earth?
That's what you are saying?
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
You believe in scripture because you have faith, not because it provides you with a convincing argument.
This quote, from IAF101, is the perfect sum of all religious fanatics and those completely deluded and drowning in religion.
Religion does not give convincing arguments or explanations to much of anything, which is why one must remove reason, logic, and common sense and replace them with "faith".
Originally posted by sos37
Wait, wait, wait... are you really that ignorant about Christianity?
Originally posted by sos37
How IN THE WORLD did you go from point A, which the other poster said:
"To Christians, Jesus is the only way to God."
to point B in which you said:
"So in other words to be a good and true christian you must
1) Kill non-believers, even if it's your own son or daughter
2) Worship a mass-murderer
3) Advocate Rape and Slavery and rape of slaves
4) Kill everyone in Iraq(babylon)
5) Advocate Human Sacrifice"
That is a huge, huge jump from one point to the other and it's not realistic.
Originally posted by sos37
Show me ANYWHERE in the New Testament where Jesus advocated any of those things, sir. Show me where Jesus said that Chritians must kill people, worship a mass murder, advocate rape and slavery.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by ModernAcademia
And Therein lies the problem with all organized Religions!
If you want to be a "Christ-ian" you must follow Christ! If you don't believe some of the stuff, or if you find any fallacies in his teaching, then you are not a true believer. The same goes for Islam! Thus "Holy Wars"!!
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
1) If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
2) Okay... do I really need to go there? Shouldn't you already know this?
3) a) (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)
b) (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)
c) (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
d) (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)
e) (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)
f) (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB)
g) (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)
h) (Judges 5:30 NAB)
i) (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
j) (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
4) Kill all in babylon, you already know this right?
5) a) (Judges 11:29-40 NLT)
b) (Joshua 7:15 NLT)
c) (2 Kings 23:20-25 NLT)
d) (Ezekiel 21:33-37 NAB)
e) oh e is interesting:
you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
Anything else you would like with that?
Originally posted by VinceP1974
Originally posted by princeofpeace
I ask you this: "why should you?"
I take people at their word when they describe their motivations and experiences.
but forgive me I haven't been indoctrinated.
Originally posted by monkcaw
Please, please do not try to extrapolate Christian theology simply from Old Testament quotations. The OT is an "enigma wrapped in a mystery" and it has deep spiritual context for Christians. Not because we worship it's words but for the wisdom, history, prophecy and poetry in which Christians find continuity.
Originally posted by monkcaw
Regardless, how do these issues have any bearing...I thought you were using the brutality of some Old Testament quotations to somehow imply that Christianity is violent and fanatical. Am I misreading you?
Originally posted by sos37
Show me ANYWHERE in the New Testament where Jesus advocated any of those things, sir. Show me where Jesus said that Chritians must kill people, worship a mass murder, advocate rape and slavery.
(Matthew 5:17-18)
Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfil them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
(Matthew 23:1-3)
Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 'The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
Originally posted by Rook1545
reply to post by IAF101
Last time I checked, the Old Testament was still included in every Bible sold. Christians read this Bible. That must mean that they are supposed to learn from it. If they were to ignore everything in the OT, it would probably have been taken out by now, otherwise why have it?