If I can interject the things I knew personally well after the fact. The events of Waco and the OK bombing have affected my life quite drastically. It was a series of coincidences and odd knowledge.

I during the summer previous used to help my ex-girlfriends father load and bag organic soy ad other beans less tan four miles from my home in Snover , MI. I was in college in Saginaw Valley State University at the time. Down M-46 depending on how you want to get there.

James house , the big white one, took on a new meaning that year. I processed his soybeans. I heard his stories, from him , by him about the unconstitutionality of a nationalized right to drive via identification, etc. I heard it all... at 21 i had some amazing lessons in sharpshooting and survival.

Im scattered and will keep it short. I was questioned after the loonie guys in the motel room for the oklahoma city bombing. I was questioned by an FBI agent and a campus police officer because someone mentioned my pile of SoF magazines, my love for a ubitiqious freedom of all and my pronounced "hatred" of our current government. All wrong but my pile of Soldier of Fortunes. BTW it was the clinton era.

The day after the bombing , when men hid in refrigerators in california (mark Kournke) and my grandfather showed up on the front page of the Saginaw News.... I was questioned for the , at the time, largest domestic terrorist event to date.

where do I start? Its been many years, ill just give you a worded pile of s#it....

Tim Tuttle before tim Mcveigh, 9mm, Big car, green (i got laid in that car before it was reported stolen) It was a mercury monterey... PVC , burying guns, buying jewelry, tokarovs, wolverines and me. Want more? how about magazines from wolverine michigan , that state that retribution for Waco calculated back to where the FBI responded from. Mind you I was young.

My grandfather was Terry B@#$%op and Norm Olson hadnt planned to move to Alaska yet. I was caught in the conspiracy of knowing , being vigilant , and learning how bad our government was over a decade ago. I learned survival and a great deal of fear just uttering words at times.

So keep your cospiricies aside and realize, theres one man that walks earth with the blood of thousands upon his revolutionary chest.

Yeah hi people this is my ferst post - I love this site - i can't believe there are actually other people out there who think like I do. I'm in australia and the things I have been telling the people of this nation have gotten me into deep trouble here. I am actually hunted by the authorities for making my views public. There are pyramids here in this country _I have seen one less than 150km from sydney. Also we are not allowed into an area in the northern territory called 'Arnemland' the reason - there is all sorts of strange things in that place which is twice the size of texas - you need to appreciate the size of this place. Aborigines I know and trust have told me of pyramids and structures there are simply out of this world. The government calls it national treasure land and put a gate up and NO-ONE is allowed in - they do the same thing in New-Zealand. They are definately hiding facts about our past.

David Koresh claimed that he was Christ.

He deserved to die.

End of story.

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
So, the media did a great job of demonizing David Koresh and making him look like a "bad" guy. In the meantime, the government continued its violations of the American people.

Well sure, the American government has been doing that off and on since its inception, they're doing it right now by the way, but was the media solely responsible for this alleged demonizing?

Didn't some of the former Davidians claim that David Koresh had either married or sexually molested their young children?

I do recall some of them stating such things happening within the compound and one girl testifying about this before Congress.

Wouldn't be a first for an alleged "messiah" if it were true.

- Lee

Originally posted by walman
David Koresh claimed that he was Christ.

He deserved to die.

End of story.

So anyone that claims this, perhaps because they are delusional, damaged, or just lonely, deserves to die?!

Do you think that if there is a Christ, or a God, that they'd want these sad people murdered?!

Lee,

I suppose you think incinerating children is just fine.
I always think it is strange that alleged molestation of children is justification for killing those same "molested" children.
Maybe we should nuke all Muslim countries because it is legal to marry and have sex with nine year old girls.

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I am going to jump on that april 19 bandwagon. My sister was born april 19, 1981 and her life has been a real living hell.
I am not into astrology/numerology but this is troubling!

Wasn't this also glossing over the Ruby Ridge incident? I believe the trial was starting when Waco happened. People conveniently forgot all about Ruby Ridge and that travesty.

Originally posted by TheOracle
I am going to jump on that april 19 bandwagon. My sister was born april 19, 1981 and her life has been a real living hell.
I am not into astrology/numerology but this is troubling!

Are you serious? You're sister is one year older than my daughter who was born on 4/19/82. I never knew so many disastrous events happened on that day until I looked it up on the net. The link I gave was just one.

I never thought that Waco Tx incident made logical sense. If the compound had been under surveillance for an extended period of time, the weapons stash was known, the names and details of its residents known, then why go in with guns blazing?

People, if I have control of the information you receive, you can guarantee that I will only put out the stories and versions I WANT you to believe.

However, a lie will always be found out.

The trouble we are all having in proving facts was foreseen and accounted for by the secret agencies with all the power. Mix the truth with lies and you have accomplished the feat of distorting the facts forever.

After reading some of the posts in this thread, the official version spewed like some miraculous vision of divine truth from the keyboards of otherwise intelligent people, convinces me I am not far from the reality of the situation.

If I tell you a lie and mix in the truth in bits and pieces, you will be confused. In your confusion you will naturally lean to the version which suits your psychological, mental and intellectual makeup the best. You will ignore the facts that don't support your "leaning" and pick up on and elaborate the ones that do. The end result is a fabrication touted as truth.