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posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by mamabeth

Originally posted by Angus123

Originally posted by syrinx2112
Please explain: How do you sin against the Holy Spirit?



Wedgies... it really hates that.


You sin against the Holy Spirit by giving credit to the devil,for what God
has done.Example:miracles our Lord Jesus performed.The jewish leaders,
of that time,said that Jesus was given His power through beelzebub.


I also sin against Ernie Keebler because I prefer Double Stuff Oreos.
Blaspheme one fictional character, ya blaspheme em' all.




posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by Angus123

Originally posted by mamabeth

Originally posted by Angus123

Originally posted by syrinx2112
Please explain: How do you sin against the Holy Spirit?



Wedgies... it really hates that.


You sin against the Holy Spirit by giving credit to the devil,for what God
has done.Example:miracles our Lord Jesus performed.The jewish leaders,
of that time,said that Jesus was given His power through beelzebub.


I also sin against Ernie Keebler because I prefer Double Stuff Oreos.
Blaspheme one fictional character, ya blaspheme em' all.


One of these days,you won't be laughing,you'll be screaming! By that
time,it will be too late.I hope that you enjoy the time you have left.Jesus
is coming soon,are you saved yet?



posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by superheterodyne
God commands to kill nobody.


If you're referring to the biblical god then I'd have to politely disagree:

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posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 04:20 PM
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reply to post by HunkaHunka
 


The next time a gay person dies in a hate crime, they should charge him with conspiracy to incite murder. Or whatever the charge is. I am no F Lee Bailey or Jackie Childs.



posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 04:41 PM
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Isnt this the same dude that got beat down by border patrol a few months ago?

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posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 05:01 PM
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Yes, it most certainly is! He had the nerve to get all pius about it, but when you watch the video, he had it coming. Sorry, but if you refuse to get out of your car, roll down the windows or unlock the doors when instructed to at the border, you are begging for a beat down!



posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 05:14 PM
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This deluded preacher is SATANIC.
Jesus and God are all about compassion.
There's no room in their philosophy for hate.
Probably this preacher is projecting his own self-loathing on his closet gay status.



posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by pasttheclouds
reply to post by TangoVooDoo
 


ah so, you agree with me that a searching atheist
is saved ?

i think you don't, if you are a christian in the classical sense,
if not, then this is not for you.

if the trinity is divided, then you can say, if you don't believe
in jesus you have the chance to miss salvation.

if the trinity is one, then it makes everyone who searches
the son as one with the father as being truth
a believer, including those that do not believe in god.



While I can appreciate participation in posts from almost all types yours are nonsensical.

I only addressed the first part of that post because if the beginning is false then the rest of your argument is also going to be false so there is no need to address anything else but the beginning. If an argument starts off with a false claim or some type of a strawman then (insert here LIE) then the rest of it will be the same. So you claim that Christians and the doctrine of the Trinity is wrong (or half right/wrong) yet you don't even know what the doctrine states.

Now if you're able please state the Christian doctrine of the Trinity. If not then why seek to tear it down with strawman arguments?



posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by Stylez

Originally posted by TangoVooDoo

Originally posted by pasttheclouds
look, god can not be divided..

christian doctrine teaches the trinity,
which is partly correct, partly wrong.

why ? you can not contradict your own scriptures,
if you build your beliefs on that scripture



You have a misunderstanding of the Trinity. The doctrine of the Trinity does NOT divide God.

Please tell me what the doctrine states?


I take it you have taken up my defense against pastiecloudies ignorance.
I think that is worth a a sincere Thank you and appreciation so you have mine. I also think you're wasting your time, you see, you and I still know we have lots to learn but pastie, he thinks he already knows it all.

He came in here all knowing saying lil tid bits of one lined sentences repeating over and over asking if we heard him demanding we give him attention and the biggest mistake I made was giving him that attention.

He can't begin to grasp the concept of the triune God and their is not much chance his ego and his constant innuendos he is a specially gifted prophet of some sort will allow him the humble disposition to even consider that he is only undermining present efforts by Christians arguing with them and not the enemy for he thinks WE are the enemy.

I think it's kinda silly myself but your willing to try. I don't have time for arguing with people so full of themselves they think they know me better than I do telling me who I hate, no insisting I do.

It's like arguing with a mind reader


Hello,

I usually tend to stay away from forums for this very reason but I somehow find my way back.

I have been at this for years now and there's always one or more in every crowd. They seek to come off as mystics and they speak or write as if they are the message found in a fortune cookie.



posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by mamabeth

Originally posted by Angus123

Originally posted by mamabeth

Originally posted by Angus123

Originally posted by syrinx2112
Please explain: How do you sin against the Holy Spirit?



Wedgies... it really hates that.


You sin against the Holy Spirit by giving credit to the devil,for what God
has done.Example:miracles our Lord Jesus performed.The jewish leaders,
of that time,said that Jesus was given His power through beelzebub.


I also sin against Ernie Keebler because I prefer Double Stuff Oreos.
Blaspheme one fictional character, ya blaspheme em' all.


One of these days,you won't be laughing,you'll be screaming! By that
time,it will be too late.I hope that you enjoy the time you have left.Jesus
is coming soon,are you saved yet?


You are adorable!



posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 06:02 PM
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reply to post by mamabeth
 


That day is already here. I find myself screaming everytime I read some of the superstitious crap some of you put out! Like now...



posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by TangoVooDoo

Originally posted by pasttheclouds
look, god can not be divided..

christian doctrine teaches the trinity,
which is partly correct, partly wrong.

why ? you can not contradict your own scriptures,
if you build your beliefs on that scripture



You have a misunderstanding of the Trinity. The doctrine of the Trinity does NOT divide God.

Please tell me what the doctrine states?


OK, since we've brought it up, this whole 'Trinity' concept only proves that Christianity is NOT a monotheistic religion!



posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by JaxonRoberts

OK, since we've brought it up, this whole 'Trinity' concept only proves that Christianity is NOT a monotheistic religion!


Hello Jaxon,

First, I did not bring up anything in regards to the Trinity but rather I sought to have a certain poster tell me what the doctrine actually is.

Secondly, you will not find the word Trinity or Triune within Scripture. It's a name or title given to the doctrine of one God who reveals Himself in 3 persons. God the Father, God the Spirit and God the Son.

Now before you say, "Aha! so it is 3 persons. 3 persons equals 3 different gods!!" Please understand that the Trinity does not state there are 3 persons in one person but rather it states there is one WHO and 3 WHAT'S.

To place this within an analogy (also note that all analogies when pressed too far fail) I am a husband to my wife, father to my kids and son to my mother yet I am one person.

So within the Trinity we have one eternal God who is shared by 3 co-eternal beings.

Now the link you gave was interesting and I will only comment on the first paragraph.



Now there is only one Allah, only one Yahweh, but in Christianity, it's a Trinity, as in more than one Divine Being. Then you add the Idolatry angle. In a Jewish Temple you will not find a statue or picture of a Burning Bush. In Islam, it is forbidden to create any image of Allah or Mohammed. But go into any Christian Church and what do you see? Jesus being executed! And in some denominations, most notably Catholism, you can't take two steps without tripping over some statue or picture of religious significance.


So if I go into ANY Christian church I can see Jesus hanging on the cross? The information presented in that is wrong. It defines the Trinity incorrectly and makes blanket statements about Christians and their doctrine.

Thank You



posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 06:38 PM
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As a Christian, the lack of humanity and spirituality expressed by this minister (I'll use that term loosely in this case) is exactly why I ran away from religion when I was younger. I grew up listening to the same kind of hatred, guilt, obligation... there was absolutely no GRACE or SPIRITUALITY from the pulpit. It was pure religiosity and hypocrisy.

Those kinds of twisted views do NOT represent my Christian views or the views of those that I worship with on a regular basis. We have a very simple saying - hate sin, LOVE sinners.

And by the way, we are ALL sinners... every single one of us has weakness and faults... which is exactly why we believe Jesus had to save us. We strive daily to live in a way that is pleasing to God.

To point the finger with such hatred is not only hypocritical, but tells me this man is probably not trying to please God, and I doubt he is saved.

The Bible tells us that when we are saved, the Holy Spirit is within us, and that our lives will bear fruit. The fruit being: Love, peace, joy, kindness, goodness, patience, mercy, faithfulness, self-control. We are to be living in GRACE - not only God's grace for us, but our grace towards others. Clearly, the minister does not show that kind of fruit.

He needs to stop espousing violence, and be held accountable.



posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by darkplanet
 


Yes, it most certainly is! He had the nerve to get all pius about it, but when you watch the video, he had it coming. Sorry, but if you refuse to get out of your car, roll down the windows or unlock the doors when instructed to at the border, you are begging for a beat down!


I agree he was asking for it when I saw that video, I think this guy is just trying to makre a name for himself but I believe that name is gonna be MUD.



posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by JaxonRoberts

Originally posted by TangoVooDoo

Originally posted by pasttheclouds
look, god can not be divided..

christian doctrine teaches the trinity,
which is partly correct, partly wrong.

why ? you can not contradict your own scriptures,
if you build your beliefs on that scripture



You have a misunderstanding of the Trinity. The doctrine of the Trinity does NOT divide God.

Please tell me what the doctrine states?


OK, since we've brought it up, this whole 'Trinity' concept only proves that Christianity is NOT a monotheistic religion!


Earlier I asked that you stop making fanciful claims, yet you're doing it again. This is going to go exactly the way it did last time, you making a statement, me questioning you on those statements, you bottle-spinning to get out of it, me asking you again, more bottle-spinning on your part, and you finally being forced to withdraw by not owning up to your words, but instead wordsmithing hoping the issue won't be pressed.

Do you know what tritheism is, and if so, can you explain it here? Moreover, many Christians, Pentecostals for example, do not believe in "the Trinity" as it is not a part of their doctrine/dogma, so how does "the Trinity" make Christianity false?

In closing, stop making blanket statements and generalizations about religions, scriptures, etc that you absolutely have no idea about.



[edit on 2-9-2009 by EMPIRE]



posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by EMPIRE

Earlier I asked that you stop making fanciful claims, yet you're doing it again. This is going to go exactly the way it did last time, you making a statement, me questioning you on those statements, you bottle-spinning to get out of it, me asking you again, more bottle-spinning on your part, and you finally being forced to withdraw by not owning up to your words, but instead wordsmithing hoping the issue won't be pressed.

Do you know what tritheism is, and if so, can you explain it here? Moreover, many Christians, Pentecostals for example, do not believe in "the Trinity" as it is not a part of their doctrine/dogma, so how does "the Trinity" make Christianity false?

In closing, stop making blanket statements and generalizations about religions, scriptures, etc that you absolutely have no idea about.


A. I don't bottle spin. I call it like I see it. The 'Trinity' thing is something I have had a problem with since I was a child. It is completely illogical.

B. As to explaining what tritheism is, you brought it up, you explain it. Since I think it's all crap, why would I want to waste my time.

C. I can guarantee that I have spent many more years studying religions of the world than you have, especially Christianity. What is apparent from your posts is that you have a very narrow scope of religious education, and haven't a clue about anything outside your little bubble.

Now, don't go away mad, just go away!



posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by JaxonRoberts



A. I don't bottle spin. I call it like I see it.


No, you bottle spin, buddy. Moreover, you call it how you see it because you exhibit severe forms of confirmation bias, in other words, you only have the ability to call it how you see it, not how others may see it.


The 'Trinity' thing is something I have had a problem with since I was a child. It is completely illogical.


This does nothing but solidify my claim that you're emotionally attached to this subject. While you may believe the concept or belief of the Trinity is illogical, there are those who believe that what you believe is downright illogical, psuedoscience and half-baked madness. In other words, be careful of another instance of the pot calling the kettle black.


B. As to explaining what tritheism is, you brought it up, you explain it. Since I think it's all crap, why would I want to waste my time.


No, why don't you explain it. Afterall, you're the one making claims about Christianity and the Trinity right? But I get it now, tritheism is most likely a term you've never heard of, and even if you've heard of it, you're afraid to mention it because it will force you to backtrack on some of the things you said. Keep up the good work, friend.



C. I can guarantee that I have spent many more years studying religions of the world than you have, especially Christianity.


Suuuuuuure you can. But even if you can what does it prove? Do you think it will remove the fact that you make claims without understanding what it is you're talking about?


What is apparent from your posts is that you have a very narrow scope of religious education, and haven't a clue about anything outside your little bubble.


What have I said that would lead you to even assume I have a very narrow scope when it comes to religion or religious education?


Now, don't go away mad, just go away!


Friend, I'm not going away and you prove me right again! You made the claim that the doctrine of the Trinity proves Christianity is false, yet you have nothing, and I repeat, nothing to say about Pentecostalism.

Now, don't go away mad like you previously did. You know what I'm talking about right? When you were shouting and yelling just like the preacher in these vids. Instead, stay here, stop typing out the side of your neck, and stop bottle spinning. Remember, it was you who said:


OK, since we've brought it up, this whole 'Trinity' concept only proves that Christianity is NOT a monotheistic religion!


Now here is the question that resulted from your claim:


Moreover, many Christians, Pentecostals for example, do not believe in "the Trinity" as it is not a part of their doctrine/dogma, so how does "the Trinity" make Christianity [a non monotheistic religion]?Moreover, if it is not monotheistic, what exactly is it?


The question was edited to reflect your original words/context and to provide you with no wiggle room.

[edit on 2-9-2009 by EMPIRE]



posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 10:10 PM
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A. I don't bottle spin. I call it like I see it. The 'Trinity' thing is something I have had a problem with since I was a child. It is completely illogical.

B. As to explaining what tritheism is, you brought it up, you explain it. Since I think it's all crap, why would I want to waste my time.

C. I can guarantee that I have spent many more years studying religions of the world than you have, especially Christianity. What is apparent from your posts is that you have a very narrow scope of religious education, and haven't a clue about anything outside your little bubble.

Now, don't go away mad, just go away!

The Trinity is not illogical,you refuse to believe it.



posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 10:15 PM
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Originally posted by Angus123

Originally posted by mamabeth

Originally posted by Angus123

Originally posted by mamabeth

Originally posted by Angus123

Originally posted by syrinx2112
Please explain: How do you sin against the Holy Spirit?



Wedgies... it really hates that.


You sin against the Holy Spirit by giving credit to the devil,for what God
has done.Example:miracles our Lord Jesus performed.The jewish leaders,
of that time,said that Jesus was given His power through beelzebub.


I also sin against Ernie Keebler because I prefer Double Stuff Oreos.
Blaspheme one fictional character, ya blaspheme em' all.


One of these days,you won't be laughing,you'll be screaming! By that
time,it will be too late.I hope that you enjoy the time you have left.Jesus
is coming soon,are you saved yet?


You are adorable!



It's still not to late to accept Jesus.



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