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reply posted on 26-8-2009 @ 08:05 AM by ziggystar60
Originally posted by Udontknowme

Brain cancer didn't hardly show up at all until 1980. It was non existent before 1930



This is not correct:

During the 16th and 17th centuries, the practice of performing human autopsies for academic purposes eventually led to the link between brain tumors and mental symptoms. Giovanni Battista Morgagni1 (1682-1771) was the first physician to describe a patient with psychiatric symptoms and what may have been a brain tumor. Recognizing this association was a slow process, mostly because of the paucity of practical ways to diagnose and treat psychiatric illness and brain tumors until the late 1800s. The movement led by the French physician Philippe Pinel (1745-1826) influenced physicians to think of psychiatric patients as sick human beings who did not deserve to be physically restrained or mistreated.The creation of large psychiatric hospitals that performed autopsies set the ground for the solid recognition of the association of brain tumors with psychiatric symptoms.
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Some of the early publications about physical disease causing pains or altered mental status symptoms date from the late 1600s. Thomas Willis,5 in his book De anima brutorum (1672), describes the case of
"a woman of about 50 years of age, after she had borne for about 6 months, a most grievous pain in the head, under the sagittal suture, troubling her almost continually, yielding to no medicine or regime of treatments, finally into a lethargy, with a partial alleviation of her symptoms; from which being aroused by remedies, she awoke with the headache, as distressing as before. Within 2 or 3 weeks later, she departed this life. Her skull being opened there was growing from the side of the sagittal sinus, a scirrhrous tumor three finger broad, which united for a small area the dura mater to the pia mater, and the venous tributaries, which should open here into the sinus, were occluded."


Read more here:
archneur.ama-assn.org...


reply posted on 26-8-2009 @ 08:31 AM by Udontknowme
reply to post by ziggystar60


Thanks for your reply. Interesting.

Are they not explaining some form of growth, in the nasal passages, that pressed against the outer layers of the brain?

This wouldn't be an actual growth inside the brain, it's a group of malignant cells surrounded by natural fibers, defining a "tumor" but not a growth within the brain,

point being, your post could be explained through something entering the nasal passage and getting lodged in a sinus cavity.

That would definitely cause headaches.


reply posted on 26-8-2009 @ 08:39 AM by ziggystar60
reply to post by Udontknowme


If you read the whole article I linked to, there are other cases of brain tumors described too.

My point was that brain tumors were known at least as far back as the 16th century in medical litterature, so it is wrong to say that brain tumors did not excist before 1930.

Deny ignorance, right?


reply posted on 26-8-2009 @ 08:47 AM by Udontknowme
reply to post by ziggystar60


Actually, I was saying that it was non existent in the news, as I did a google news search.

Could you copy and paste a couple more of those articles you are referring to.

Don't you realize you have to pay to read the link you posted?


reply posted on 26-8-2009 @ 08:52 AM by ziggystar60
reply to post by Udontknowme


I am not referring to any more articles than than the one I linked to. But that in that one article there are several cases of brain tumors mentioned.

And I did not have to pay anything to read that article... Are you saying that you can not access it by clicking the link? I just tried it again, and it works just fine for me.




reply posted on 26-8-2009 @ 09:00 AM by Udontknowme
Originally posted by ziggystar60
reply to post by Udontknowme


I am not referring to any more articles than than the one I linked to. But that in that one article there are several cases of brain tumors mentioned.

And I did not have to pay anything to read that article... Are you saying that you can not access it by clicking the link? I just tried it again, and it works just fine for me.



I just tried it again, and it requires a log in name and password.

If brain tumors which you are calling cancerous, existed back in the 1600's, why are we suggesting it's from pollution, food additive, and all the other things not existent in the 1600's?


reply posted on 26-8-2009 @ 09:27 AM by StrangeBrew
What cancer is NOT is some type of disease floating around in the air which inflicts whoever is unfortunate enough to come into contact with it. They want us to believe that it's a situation of many unknown variables and one to be very frightful of so that we can be scared into quick action with whatever "therapy" they recommend as soon as they can get it into us.

However the real cause of cancer (they don't want you to know about), including brain cancer is a result of the body living in a state of prolonged deficiency for long periods of time. When this is the case, we become easily susceptible to foreign toxins that our bodies could otherwise deal with and prevent us from the harm they can cause.

An example in a moment but first we need to appreciate that deficiencies can occur many ways and cause a wide variety of aliments and diseases including cancer. There are only about 2 dozen nutrients that the body requires yet there are hundreds of thousands of chemical reactions that take place in the body which depend on those nutrients. The same goes for minerals.


Cancer is so prevalent in our society (higher rates now more than ever) because of the level and types of deficiencies we're facing on a daily basis.

Example - When the food consumed by a nation is of such poor quality (ingredient wise) you will see a correlation between cancer rate rises and other disease manifestations. The foods an average person consumes on a daily basis are of so low quality, it's only a matter of time before most of us reach this point of prolonged deficiency.

Here's exactly what I mean by low food quality. Take a look into your fellow shopper's carts as you roll around the grocery store. You'll notice for the most part a large mass of "food" products with little actual food within the ingredient list.

Take you wide variety of greatly priced frozen dinners. How can we resist a tasty meal for $1? Yet when we look at the ingredient list, little resembles a food source. This goes for MOST food items found in the grocery store nowadays. OUR FOODS ARE A PROBLEM. "Enriched" white bread has an ingredient list the size of Schindler's list, just jacked with chemicals. Margarine the "healthy" choice over real butter, boarders a soft plastic, ingredient wise, yet we're told it's "the way to go".


The list of foods, mostly factory prepared foods, could go on forever with the chemically enhanced fake nutrients made within. This is very important for us to realize and how these additives work against us over time.


This complacent behavior over periods of years even decades causes us to develop many forms of disease. The real kicker is that these fake, chemical, non-food ingredients not only act as substitutes for actual required nutrients, but they also act as toxins themselves as they inflict a great amount of trouble on an already deficient body.

Cancer tumors specifically occur when the body looses its sense of how to function with other parts of the body due to these deficiency and toxicity levels. Certain organs have nutrient starved cells within that start to band together and worry about their survival and not their main purpose which is proper function of the organ. They will start to funnel nutrients away from where they should go in order to feed, and grow the tumor itself. At this point the tumor will become a problem because it is competing against the rest of the body for resources.

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It's extremely well hidden and suppressed body of knowledge that our ability to nourish ourselves properly is at the fundamental center of our health problems. We are being led completely astray from this way of thinking. Our doctors (those indoctrinated into western medical schools) have no idea this could be the case - and they've be led that way for a very specific reason.

For a more complete view of how far off base we really are, take a look at the following video I put together addressing the our problems and how to beat them.


(click to open player in new window)



reply posted on 26-8-2009 @ 09:51 AM by TheRedneck
The last thing I personally heard about cancer in general was a study reported in Scientific American where success was being made fighting cancer with anti-growth hormones. The scientists working on the idea postulated that cancer happens when there is an imbalance between growth indicators and anti-growth indicators, allowing cells to divide rapidly and with no coordination with other nearby cells.

They showed several examples of the blood vessel structure associated with malignant tumor growth, both before and after treatment. The results certainly looked impressive. probably more studies have been undertaken since, the medical field being the science I am probably least familiar with.

Brain cancer differs from lung cancer, stomach cancer, melanoma (skin cancer), or any other type of cancer only by the location of the tumor. Any cellular structure in the body has the capability to grow a tumor, and any such tumor can become malignant. The major complication with brain cancer is not that the cancer is different, but that it is difficult to reach it and treatments that are (deemed) safe for other areas of the body can be detrimental to the brain tissues.

I tend to believe based on the little I know of the disease that it is a body-wide imbalance that tends to present itself in areas that undergo the most stress in the body. For example, lung cancer tends to affect smokers more than non-smokers because of the additional stress smoking places on the lungs. Under this hypothesis, however, it would follow that if a person was subject to cancer through an imbalance, it would only be the location affected by something such as smoking, and not whether or not cancer appeared somewhere in the body. In other words, if a smoker got lung cancer, they would have probably gotten cancer if they had never smoked; the cancer might have shown up in a different area is all.

The incidence of cancer has indeed risen during the last few decades; I have witnessed this first-hand in my lifetime. That tells me that there is something in our environment that is causing cancer rates to skyrocket. Based on the experiments and research I mentioned at the start of this post, I tend to think it would have something to do with hormonal therapy used on our food sources. Growth hormones are typically given to livestock in massive unregulated quantities in order to produce more food faster at a lower cost.

But yeah, we still do not know what causes cancer of any kind. It's all educated guesswork at this point. But if you really want to take the red pill, really want your eyes open, check out a substance called Potassium Dichloroacetate or Sodium Dichloroacetate (two salts commonly referred to as DCA):
A study published in January 2007 by researchers at the University of Alberta, testing DCA on in vitro cancer cell lines and a rat model, found that DCA restored mitochondrial function, thus restoring apoptosis, killing cancer cells in vitro, and shrinking the tumors in the rats.
Source: en.wikipedia.org...

(Yeah, it's Wiki, but it makes a decent starting spot to research. Check out the footnotes.)

An experimentally proven cure for cancer in general, that has years of medical use behind it for treatment of other conditions with a minimum of side effects. And it's not being prescribed. Hmmmm... As Artie Johnson used to say, "Vewwwwy intewesting..."

TheRedneck



reply posted on 26-8-2009 @ 12:25 PM by Uphill
reply to post by Udontknowme


Here is a link to a recent similar discussion on this topic:

www.abovetopsecret.com...&addstar=1&on=4981933#pid4981933

See especially my reply (Uphill, look for bright green color), which gives a source (written by a medical doctor) that discusses an almost immediate and profound improvement in a person previously expected to die imminently from brain cancer.

Let's face it, food and drink are the most powerful chemicals we take into our bodies on a daily basis. We might as well be making our dietary choices among meals that are actually good for us.

[edit on 8/26/2009 by Uphill]


reply posted on 26-8-2009 @ 12:37 PM by TheRedneck
reply to post by Uphill
Let's face it, food and drink are the most powerful chemicals we take into our bodies on a daily basis. We might as well be making our dietary choices among meals that are actually good for us.

It would help with that suggestion if we actually understood what was 'good for us'.

The human body is a marvelous mechanism capable of handling about every contaminant that nature can throw our way. Our immunity system is especially intricate and robust. Yet, we are bombarded daily with admonitions to not eat eggs, drink whole milk, and to fill our bellies with chemical concoctions that any sane person form 100 years ago would puke at the thought of.

If it grows naturally, it's good food. Period. If it's made in a factory, it probably isn't. Period. If it requires chemicals made in a factory to grow, it definitely isn't. Period. That means in our society, it is almost impossible to eat good natural foods, as commercialism and the search for profit means anything not grown using accelerants like growth hormones, artificially-produced fertilizers, and toxic pesticides and herbicides is typically so slow and therefore expensive to produce it isn't financially feasible to market them.

The only real solution is to go back to nature and back to growing your own food. That is a long journey, though, and one I am still undertaking. Sadly, for much of the population, it is an impossible quest.

TheRedneck
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